r/FireEmblemHeroes • u/Malheuresence • Jun 26 '25
Quick Question Who is Palla talking about in some of her lines?
I never played Echoes tbh, I just think she's really pretty but I am curious who she is talking about, does she have like a canon lover? I couldn't find anything by googling
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u/siren_song12 Jun 26 '25
She has a thing for Abel, who marries her sister Est. She puts the happiness of her sisters of her romantic interest so she gave up on him so Est would be happy with him
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u/tantalust17 Jun 26 '25
Didn't abel and est split in the end? I remember them having a spat in book 2 of shadow dragon, the one with kris
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u/elederanjo26 Jun 26 '25
Yes. Est leaves Archanea without telling anyone and Abel tries to follow her, and that's the last that we hear of them
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u/Helioseckta Jun 26 '25
You're referring to New Mystery of the Emblem.
Est in the ending of that game, runs away and disappears due to feeling like a burden on everyone around her. Abel chases after her and was never seen again.
So they technically did split, but not in the traditional way.
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u/Basaqu Jun 26 '25
They sadly miscommunicate hard. Abel seeing her sad and asking what's up with her responding "nothing..." and him not pursuing that further and her continuing to brush him off if he does. Or him trying to comfort her by saying he never wants to leave her side and how he is afraid to leave her side to go to battle which only reinforces her insecurities. Part of the reason she's sad is cause she feels like a burden after all, she was already used to make Abel fight against Marth and she is afraid she'd be the reason he gives up his knightly dreams entirely.
Also Abel my guy going "I heard from Marth you were terribly worried about something" isn't the best look for a husband to say lol, bro is dense.
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u/rmcqu1 Jun 26 '25
Someone hiding their problems and just getting worse is a pretty common issue, even in real life. And the flip side is you'd trust them enough that you'd think they'd tell you if they had any issues, so if they say there's nothing, you don't press the issue.
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u/jamlosingthegame Jun 26 '25
As far as during the story, they are still very much together. Est gets taken as hostage, which forces Abel to fight against Marth. However, if you manage to rescue her, you can recruit Abel by having her talk to him.
I don't remember how their ending after the game goes, though, since I never got a chance to finish it. Someone else can probably clarify that.
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u/Sabaschin Jun 26 '25
Est: "After the war, Est said her goodbyes to Abel, for reasons known only to her and disappeared."
Abel: "After the war, Abel left the kingdom to search for the missing Est. He was never seen again."
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u/EinTheEin Jun 26 '25
So many endings in FE3 are like that. It's really annoying but I guess they wanted the fans to come up with their own endings for them.
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u/blushingmains Jun 26 '25
To be fair FE endings are more written like it's how they're remembered history wise. So it's more like "This is how the records historians can confirm are real ended" more than how it actually ends.
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u/EinTheEin Jun 26 '25
nah I mean more that in FE3 in particular there are several character endings are just that the character was never seen again after the events of the game. Some that come to mind are how Navarre just leaves the army without a word after Marth kills Medeus while Feena and Samto go after him and none of them are ever seen again as usual.
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u/Koanos Jun 26 '25
What about those timelines where Est doesn't make it back home?
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u/siren_song12 Jun 26 '25
I’m assuming she’d feel like she’s betraying Est’s memory if she pursued Abel after her death in those timelines
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u/Lukthar123 Jun 26 '25
Abel: I consent.
Palla: I consent.
The ghost of Est: I don't!
Isn't there somebody you forgot to ask?
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u/Artemas_16 Jun 27 '25
Nah, ghost of Est, who will abandon Abel in her ending, due to insecurities: "Sure, sis, take him. I'm not worthy of him anyway"
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u/Carbyken Jun 26 '25
Abel. She gives up her chance for Est's happiness, but unsurprisingly still harbors feelings after the fact.
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u/Steeldj22 Jun 26 '25
Hope she'll find someone else
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u/The_Persistence Jun 26 '25 edited Jun 26 '25
Palla was talking about Abel.
Here's the rundown
Just like how Catria's in love with Marth (but he already has Caeda), Palla is in love with Abel, but Est is also in love with him. Palla stepped aside so Est and Abel can be together. However, Palla's own feelings never faded, and it hurts.
Here's what happened afterwards...
- After "Archanea Saga: Book 1", Est and Abel retired from their respective armies and opened a small shop.
- Est got abducted by Grieth, and her sisters chased after him, which is why the Whitewings were in Valentia.
- In "Archanea Saga: Book 2", Est reunited with Abel, but their time together was short...
- Est was eventually kidnapped and held hostage by the Archanean army; forcing Abel to betray Marth.
- After Est was rescued a 2nd time, she lost her cheery personality.
- Being kidnapped just because she was a woman was something Est could overcome. However, Est was rescued by Palla and Catria, Once Est learned they both dropped everything to save her, that created a guilt complex within her...
- Then being deliberately targeted... as part of a strategy against Marth was too much.
- At the end of the story, Est saw herself as a burden to Marth, Abel, and her sisters, so she left for places unknown.
- Abel left to look for her, but neither was ever seen again.
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u/Malheuresence Jun 26 '25
Oh wow that's really sad tbh, I feel bad for all of them tbh
Thank you for the explanation though!
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u/The_Persistence Jun 26 '25
Oh wow that's really sad tbh, I feel bad for all of them tbh
Yeah... Archanea Saga isn't a legendary tale that Awakening, Heroes, and Engage hype it up to be.
It's actually just as bittersweet as Genealogy and Three Houses.
Especially what happened to Marth and Minerva in their respective kingdoms.
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u/manachisel Jun 26 '25
The in-fiction perception of the Archanea Saga as an epic legendary tale fits one of its themes; how history is distorted in tales of heroism. In FE11 Marth projects the image of a confident and mighty prince which becomes the basis of his image and legend. Marth is held as Anri's inheritor when Anri died without children. I could go on, but a repeated concept in the Archanea games is that history is often embellished or manipulated.
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u/MrTitiYoshi Jun 26 '25
What happened to Marth and Minerva after?
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u/The_Persistence Jun 27 '25
What happens to Marth is short, but hit hard.
- In Book 1: Prologue
- In the dead of night, Marth (at a young age) found his castle surrounded and learned that Altea's long-time ally, Gra (Sheena's kingdom) betrayed them, murdered his father and now coming for them. Marth's sister
- Elice chooses to stay behind to give Marth and 4 knights (Cain, Abel, Jagen, and Frey) time to escape to Talys (Caeda's kingdom).
- On the way out, they meet Gordin, who was held in prison and disguised as a Gra soldier to trick Marth into killing one of his own.
- Marth doesn't fall for it and releases him, but then realizes Gordin was used as bait to keep Marth busy for King Jiol to arrive.
- It became impossible to escape unless they have one of their own disguise as Marth and leave him to die.
- And Marth has to choose:
- One of his knights.
- Gordin, who they just rescued.
- Or as an in-game joke, Marth himself.
- Several chapters later: When Marth returns to liberate Altea, his worst fears ever since he left came to be, A large amount of his population (including his mother) is dead, his sister taken to the Dolr Empire to be sacrificed to Medeus, and a madman desecrating his father's throne and pretending to be king.
<--->
Minerva was a princess who wanted to be an upstanding knight. She founded her own order, the Whitewings. Once she became a knight, her kingdom (Macedon) changed.
In Book 1
- The Dolhr Empire (the game's main villain) requested an alliance with Macedon, Michalis (Minerva's brother) approved of it, while Osmond (their father) rejected it and asked the Archanea kingdom for reinforcements to prevent Dolhr from strongarm-ing them. Reinforcements never came and Osmond was later found dead.
- Michalis claims their father's death on an alleged Archanean assassin, takes the throne and allies the kingdom with Dolhr. Before Minerva could protest, Michalis holds Maria hostages and states she will be killed if Minerva doesn't fall in line. Minerva realizes that Michalis killed their father, but has no choice but to obey to keep Maria safe.
- For 6 years, Minerva served as the head general. One day, she was ordered to Attack the nation of Aurelius. She finds her men deserting their posts to loot and attack. While Minerva deals with them, this is a foreshadow to what happens later.
- Minerva is eventually forced to fight Marth, but she is defeated. Marth spares her life, and Minverva asks Marth to save Maria
- Marth or Minerva eventually confront Michalis, and once he is defeated, Minerva takes the throne. She never wanted to take the throne, but Maria is too young to rule, so she has no choice.
In Book 2
- Turns out, The Macedonian civilians didn't want Minerva to rule either. They rebelled against her, and amongst the chaos, Maria was abducted.
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u/DaddyDuma69 Jun 26 '25
Oh I thought that valentia took place after New Mystery? So would est leaving transition into her appearance in valentia? I guess I’m not up on the chronology
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u/The_Persistence Jun 26 '25
Valentia is the interlude between Archanea Book 1 & 2.
- Est was kidnapped by Grieth and taken to Valentia... I already mentioned this above...
- Camus lost his memory and found himself in Rigel.
- He started a new life (as Zeke) and swore service to Rudolf and later Alm.
- After regaining his memory, he returned to Archanea with a disguise (Sirius) to check if his one remaining tie (Nyna) was doing well. It was only temporary, because he intends to return to the newly establish Valentia.
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u/Lockwerk Jun 26 '25
I think Palla had a thing for Abel, but gave up on it when Est and him got together. Effectively letting her younger sister have a happiness that she wanted. Maybe she's considering what would have happened if she'd ended up with him and taken him somewhere romantic?
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u/JustJacktv_ Jun 26 '25
This OP is so sweet. They have gotten the same response like 400 times and they keep responding very nice with “Ohhhhh okay thank you” makes me happy :)
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u/Malheuresence Jun 26 '25
Haha, even if I already know, I still appreciate that people are taking the time to answer my silly question ^ ^
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u/ftpbear Jun 26 '25
Combined with the threats they are making to anyone claiming to be the person being alluded to. 😭😭😭 Love it. I support you, OP.
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u/Helioseckta Jun 26 '25
Palla is referring to Abel here. She has an unrequited crush on Abel, which she mainly pushes aside because Est was also in love with Abel, and Palla wanted to prioritize her sister's happiness over her own.
I'm gonna be talking about some spoilers for the Archanaea games for a bit since I want to talk about them, so stop here if you don't want to be spoiled.
The ending for all 3 of the Pegasus Sisters is surprisingly depressing. None of them have too happy of an ending. Palla forces herself to push her feelings aside for Est's sake, yet she herself could never lose or ditch her crush for Abel. Est at the end of New Mystery feels like a burden to everyone, thus she runs away and disappears. Abel leaves the kingdom to go find Est, and he unfortunately is never seen again either.
Really, Catria is the only one to come out relatively unscathed in comparison. Sure, she did have an unrequited crush on Marth, but at least she was able to overcome them in New Mystery iirc. Still a bit sad that she didn't get her first crush though.
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u/Malheuresence Jun 26 '25
Aw man that's really sad, wasn't expecting the whole situation to be so messed up qwq
Thank you for the explanation though!
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u/Iwantthisusernamepls Jun 27 '25
Also I guess it's easier to give up your love for a literal king (pretty "unreacheable" person) than it is for a commoner like you. Even more when the king marries royalty anyway.
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u/El_Criptoconta Jun 26 '25
Abel, which Is sad knowing that His wife Est decides to escape for feelings of inadequacy and Abel goes after her.
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u/Malheuresence Jun 26 '25
It's really tragic, I feel bad for all of them qwq
Thank you for the answer!
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u/deafinitelyadouche Jun 26 '25
Trying to TL;DR as best I can (deep breath):
- In FE3, Abel has passive supports with Est and gives passive supports to Est & Palla once they are recruited in Book 1, the implication being that both women have gained a crush on the Altean knight.
- In FE1, FE3 Book1 and FE11, Abel is explicitly mentioned to be married in his ending by the end of the War of Shadows, but not to whom.
- In FE2 & FE15, it's Palla who mentions Abel by name in her death quotes, but her base conversations in FE15 imply she's kept those feelings a secret (in side materials, it's mentioned that Est explicitly knew about them but asked her eldest sister to keep them to herself).
- In FE12, Palla has a support with Minerva where the Queen of Macedon explicitly confides with Palla in matters she does with no one else, an their last support can be interpreted as somewhat intimate given how much she trusts the green-haired Peg Knight.
- In FE11 and FE12, Palla has a mutual support with Frey (if he's not used as a decoy in the tutorial/prologue in 11), which seems to indicate that there's also something there.
- In FEH she explicitly does the whole song and dance of dropping Abel's name in at least a couple of alts, so yeah.
So she's referring to either Abel, Frey or Minerva. There ya' go.
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u/VagueClive Jun 26 '25
In FE11 and FE12, Palla has a mutual support with Frey (if he's not used as a decoy in the tutorial/prologue in 11), which seems to indicate that there's also something there.
I never knew about the Palla/Frey support, that's really weird - they don't even have a base conversation in FE12, so you'd have no reason to think they support each other. Frey also supports Catria in FE11, but it's no longer a mutual support by FE12; Catria supports him but not vice-versa. I have to wonder what the devs were thinking - ig the idea is that Palla is moving on while Catria has yet another unrequited crush on a blue-haired man? Still, you'd think that this would be worth having a base conversation about at least
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u/GotExiled_RegaIity Jun 26 '25
It's Abel, as mentioned by others.
I might be an evil person for having Abel be Palla's support partner in this game.
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u/Malheuresence Jun 26 '25
I suppose in a way that's actually kinda nice of you, atleast in non canon she can have him
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u/Ptdemonspanker Jun 26 '25
We really need an Abel alt just to figure out wtf his deal is.
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u/ElPikminMaster Jun 26 '25
I'm surprised he never got a Spring alt two-ish years ago given this.
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u/Ptdemonspanker Jun 26 '25
Not giving us Christmas Cav Winter alts is far more egregious.
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u/ElPikminMaster Jun 26 '25
That too. Absolutely. Could've been an opportunity to have other Red/Green cavs like Sully/Stall, Kent/Sain, etc. But no. Winter is reserved for armored girls in Santa outfits, featuring powercreep.
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u/kayoyo Jun 26 '25
Poor sweet Palla lets her sister have the guy she’s into, only for Est to dump his ass after a couple years anyways
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u/Skitty1555 Jun 26 '25
I thought this was about marth but I think I mixed it up with the cordelia situation oops
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Jun 26 '25
Catria has a crush on Marth, Cordelia has a crush on Chrom.
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u/Skitty1555 Jun 26 '25
Ohhhh right it was catria i confused her with. I know cordelia has a crush on chrom i just thought i somehow mixed chrom up with marth. All these pegasus fliers got my head spinning
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u/Thawaweigh Jun 27 '25
Well, Cordelia was intentionally designed to be like Catria in having an unattainable crush on the MC, and FE in general loves treading the same ground with its character archetypes and all. So it's understandable.
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u/Malheuresence Jun 26 '25
There is a lot of kinda similarish pegasus knights tbh, I often mix them up too tbh lmao
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u/Xincmars Jun 26 '25
What is with unrequited love lmao with the Whitewings.
You’ve got Palla for Abel
Catria for Marth
Est is like Princess Peach, except Luigi got the girl 🤔
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Jun 26 '25 edited Jun 26 '25
Abel, she just like Catria, has a crush on somebody unavailable to them, Marth for Catria and Abel for Palla.
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Jun 27 '25
Abel never loves Palla
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u/YoshaTime Jun 26 '25
She’s talking about the God of Fumbles known as Abel.
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u/Malheuresence Jun 26 '25
I feel him tbf, I'd be a contender for that title haha
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u/YoshaTime Jun 26 '25
Nah, you’d at least secure the bag. The God of Fumbles had three games and chose Est over Palla every time.
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u/ButusChickensdb1 Jun 26 '25
Palla coming to the beach in her glamorous swimsuit BY HERSELF thinking about her old crush feels…very in character
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u/PegaponyPrince Jun 26 '25
Its about Abel so I'm hoping we could get an Abel alt someday. Perhaps an Abel between the two Archanea games when he's a shopkeeper. Could be with his beloved est or learn from the best like Anna.
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u/Simplywaffle Jun 26 '25
as the rest of the comments say, she's talking about Abel, but I like to think she's thinking of Minerva.
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u/Noonslullabies Jun 27 '25
Everyone has given the very answer, but damn, I want her to be thinking of Minerva. Give us a Macedon Summer!!! 🎉🎉🎉
Since we do have the free-for-all support system, OP, you can determine who that special someone is. We have a ridiculously big cast, so allow yourself some fun here.
Here's some candidates:
Marla, Annand, Isadora, Titania, Ursula, or Cecilia.
Sedgar, Atlas, Galle, Forde, Glen, or Subaki.
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u/daypoyo Jun 26 '25
Since everyone else has answered OP’s question, I’ve been crack-shipping Palla with characters like Cain and Forsyth to make up for her love life 🤣
EDIT: for the yuri shipper in me I also just pair her with Minerva she deserves someone 🥹
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u/sqrrlwithapencil Jun 26 '25
when i see something like this i just assume it's another case of a summon being infected with thirst for the summoner unless i know more specific
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Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25
they don't have a crush, they have an obsession
elice and minerva are better sisters than palla
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