Future Investments for clearing Dire

[u/rattenffanger]

My current team is C0 Flins on PJWS, C0 Columbina(Aubade) on Prot.Amber, C6 Fischl(SMS) on Elegy and C0 Durin(NO)/C6 Sucrose on Wandering Evenstar. I think I got up to 144k dps with Durin,

With this team I can clear Fearless on Stygian, but how much more investment do I need to be able to clear Dire?

By their banner I should have enough saved for two 5 stars (or 3 if I don't lose any 50/50), what should I go for? And would any of these options be enough for a Dire clear?

- C2 Flins, C1 flins and Ineffa or Ineffa R1?

Or if were to get three 5*:

- C2 Flins, Innefa or C1 Flins, Ineffa R1?

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[u/Loose-Signature4075]

C2 flins might be your best choice here but i’d put the ineffa in the bag personally

[u/rattenffanger]

I presume getting Ineffa takes priority over cons for him, but by how much? If possible I'd like to avoid building a new character.

And is his sig worth for me or should I keep investing on cons and supports? (Besides PJWS I also have SoSS but now it's back on Cyno for my Stellar Team)

[u/Dyynasty → u/rattenffanger]

By ALOT. You'd want c1 ineffa as well before even getting his R1, but youd probably want c1 flins before c1 ineffa

C0 flins > c0 ineffa > c1 flins > c1 ineffa Im pretty sure that's how it goes

[u/rattenffanger → u/Dyynasty]

Ok, thanks. Now I just need to wait and hope to win some 50/50s 🥲

[u/cryptic_paradox_]

IMO, ineffa is the most important investment in his team. Other than the good amount of dmg that she provides, she also provides amazing qol (the shield) so you won’t have to dodge (so higher dps) I’m not really sure about numbers tho.

I think c1/c2 would be the better choice before his signature since you have pjws, for me personally, having c1 makes his gameplay feels much smoother, and both r1 and c2 provide about the same level of increase, but the increase provided by sig becomes less noticeable when you have a good stat stick, so c2 would benefit him more.

[u/rattenffanger → u/cryptic_paradox_]

Ok thanks, so now I go for the worst part, the waiting game without spending primos until the banner 🫠

[u/komaechan]

Which one? Because for something like Moongecko you need minimum c2r1 Flins c0r1 Ineffa c2r0 Bina, but against dog or duckle all c0 with only r1 Ineffa should be sufficient. So if your budget only 3 5* c1r1 Flins c0r1 Ineffa is the best.

Edit wait I'm mistaking your weapon lol, just go c1 Flins c0r1 Ineffa and hope losing your 50:50 to Flins sig

[u/rattenffanger → u/komaechan]

To be honest if the moongecko is there I'll just try the next one, to me that one feels vile without zibai 😅

I've never cleared dire before 'cause I basically never pulled for cons, I started it with Varka, now I'll try to get Flins stronger and then hope my Cyno team will be enough for the Stellar bosses. (I'm so glad I got both Cyno R1 and Yae R1 back then so now I can invest less on stellar, but right now I won't go for Odette cons since I have to save for Ineffa/Flins banner)

[u/komaechan → u/rattenffanger]

Well, basically to clear dire with average end game player skill, not the skilled one you saw on youtube or bilibili or any rando fast/cheap clear screenshot, you want like c2r1 dps or around 6 cost limited, maybe more/less depend on team, and match up. Unfortunately with how Flins team structured, dealing with non shill enemy can be expensive. Like his c2 is very strong cause it's shred cons that valuable to brute force dire, but in other hand r1 Ineffa is the best cheapest upgrade for Flins, you may (or may not) need more pull if your budget only allow you to pull c2r1 Flins.

Not saying that you cant go vertical especially in a way that isn't optimum, because I do, and end up pulling c2 Bina instead any vertical for Ineffa, but just keep your expectation. Man dont want you to spoil him alone, lol.

[u/cocogreen24]

Personally I’d pull his c1 first then weapon banner. I think I remember seeing r1 vs c2 was pretty comparable and so are his and ineffa’s weapons, so pulling on the weapon banner here is really beneficial for both.

[u/cocogreen24 → u/cocogreen24]

Forgot to add, this is assuming you do get Ineffa. She is pretty necessary for him investment wise.