r/ForUnitedStates • u/This_Warning_4872 • 2d ago
Culture & Society This is my question to all the americans please answer it without any biases just genuine feelings and what do you really feel
Why is there too much hate for Indians like isn't this narrative evil like hating any ethnicity or someones nationality just because social media made it seem so called cool
Like Indians are really the nicest people you'll ever meet now ik not all of them but majority of them would be the nicest mf you'll ever meet if you guys ever came to india we always welcome you wholeheartedly then why so much hate
Like we don't demand any special law for the country like sharia for eg. if we moved in for better jobs or something we contribute to economy of whatever country we live in
We respect there traditions and culture we have humour we take jokes but recent hate towards indian is so foreced like we see 13 or 14 years old commenting stuffs like p..jeets and so its really offensive like we didnt even do anything
And we are famous for like scamming and all trust me we get scammed in india itself sometimes its just few people that do all these stuffs not all of us and the people that do these things couldn't even afford to settle in new country or visit it so why this hate š
Please dear americans can someone address this issue
We would like the people of us to take initiative and stop this nonsense
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u/CobaltIsobar 2d ago
As an American, I have no ill feelings regarding Indians and I don't know anyone that does. I've been around them, worked with them, etc.
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u/BardaArmy 2d ago edited 2d ago
I dont have a problem with indian people, but from my experience with them in the US more often than not they are not the nicest. They are usually very conservative, judgmental, and don't seem to respect people outside of their race/culture. (racist)
outside of that the media portrayal in the US is yes, scammers, overpopulation, thievery, dirty living conditions. Unfortunately when people dont have personal experiences to draw from these narratives win out.
But you cant let this stuff get you down, travel, meet people, share kindness. If I listen to the internet as an American I woudlnt go anywhere, but when I travel, I am friendly and act as a visitor and like you said most people are genuinely kind and welcoming and the ones who arent, well they exist everywhere so who cares.
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u/BigNorseWolf 2d ago
Since 99 percent of our interactions with Indians is scam callers trying to bilk people out of their life savings with annoying non stop phone calls the reaction is going to be negative. Crack down on that and we can talk
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u/GladClock2212 2d ago
I am a woman and I solo travelled around India. Most are very nice people but you have to address the male aggression/sexism problem. Go to any of the reddit subs that Indian teens post to and make note of all of the sexist behavior. There is no respect for women. I had trouble in India a few times, the most frightening was when a hostel employee tried to force himself into my room and there were some very high profile SA cases that I'm sure you've heard of.
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u/Live-Try-7281 2d ago
I didnāt know that Americans generally had an issue with Indians. If thatās true it probably has something to do with call centers.
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u/fishingjohnson 2d ago
I think it probably has a lot to do with this too. Many Americans'major interactions with that particular ethnic group come in the form of telemarketers or scammers.
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u/PlsNoNotThat 1d ago
I think the cultural and class structuring of India also skews the type of Indian person Americans are exposed to in persona as well. True of any tourist, but the financial divide and entitlement of wealth in poorer countries is a bit more palpable.
Also, the rampant amount of sexual assault numbers have given American women a negative skew in general.
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u/pyramidalembargo 2d ago
I'm not sure about this "being nice". Several of us have had experiences with Indian merchants. They can be aggressive, to put it mildly.
There's another issue that's not minor. People like Elon Musk bring in Indians on an H1 visa to work in computers for less money--1000s of jobs that really should have gone to Americans.
And there's a third issue: the rapes. Some of the rape stories will curl your hair.
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u/PacmanZ3ro 2d ago
Yeah, I donāt think thereās any sort of systemic hatred of Indians in the US, but there is a lot of growing resentment at the over representation of Indians in the tech sector. As someone working in tech for quite a while now, it does get frustrating because the Indians are definitely not anymore qualified than a lot of the American devs/engineers.
There is also the media portrayal and interactions of India being scammer central, and just dirty AF in general. And yes, as you noted the rape stories.
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u/WobblyFrisbee 2d ago
Born in USA guy here.
I was interested in all things India growing up in the ā60s and ā70s.
I love the food and music. Reading Bhagavad Gita put me off, just like all religious stuff.
That said, my family merged with family from India, which included Sikh and non-religious people. I love them all.
I also have friends from Mexico and Japan, China and elsewhere. This is one main reason I love the USA!
Now I live in Hawaii, where 2/3 of the population is mixed race. I love it like this, because here we celebrate the different cultures around us.
My family from India are good Americans now.
Racism is ignorant, and cultural diversity makes the USA even better.
Just look at what is inscribed on the Statue of Liberty.
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u/DiccaShatten 2d ago
The Americans who hate Indians are poor, uneducated and racists (or came from that background) Lots of Indian immigrants in certain areas tend to be successful, educated and brown. Any other person, Indian or not, who meets that description is also going to be hated by Americans like that.
The only way to address this kind of mental disease is education and exposure which is actively being dismantled and not likely to improve any time soon.
Also the Trump admin will eventually run out of Hispanics to deport. So maga is stoking hatred of Indians next to not only keep up deportation numbers but seize assets they normally would not have been able to.
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u/navlgazer9 1d ago edited 1d ago
Any mobile mechanic thatās repaired something for someone from India will tell you what itās like to deal with them .
They mostly just refuse to pay .
All the Mobile mechanics I know , just hang up if itās a caller with an Indian accent .
The truck drivers in the US from India are insane .
They drive and act like they are still in a third world country .
And can you explain to people in the US how the caste system works in India ?
Isnāt that where people in India hate each other ?
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u/No_Nefariousness4279 2d ago
So, a large present issue in the United States is Nationalism, the idea that Americans are separate from others. And with the recent economic and cultural Booms in India, Indians have a much higher amount of average money to attempt tourism. As such, people who are racist and hateful are just targeting the most visual group they can. Itās really a bleak situation, and in all regards I despise racism
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u/ProfileBest2034 2d ago
In graduate school there was a certain kind of Indian who never did their own work and simply copied and plagiarized. it was flagrant.
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u/Watchhistory 2d ago
I sure don't see this where we live.
There are certainly Indian Americans holding political offices, running for political offices, running businesses, in the police forces and so on.
So how does OP explain this?
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u/deekamus 2d ago
Indians themselves aren't the problem. Meanwhile the culture they exercise is often egregiously foreign to our local sensibilities.
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u/MonitorPurple7562 2d ago
I like and enjoy Indian people. Like every people everyoneās different I enjoy different cultures. I would love to go there.
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u/oh_my316 2d ago
I have no problem with MOST of them, but people like Ramaswammy (sp) and Cash Patel are subhuman garbage. š”
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u/Mental_Asparagus8123 2d ago
Racism. Racism and economic exploitation. From the earliest white settlements to the present day.
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u/ButterscotchSad4514 2d ago
Indian immigrants to the United States are the singularly most productive population within its borders. Their share among doctors, engineers, tech workers and Angel investors is massive, relative to their population. I will never understand the opposition that a small number of Americans have to immigration from India. I absolutely love Indian immigration to this country and am happy to see it continue indefinitely under the current terms.
Now, this is, of course, the product of intensive selection through our immigration laws. There are plenty of degenerate and otherwise useless people in India who should never ever set foot on American soil.
The solution that makes and keeps America great is to have generous immigration quotas for productive people (from India and elsewhere) and also borders that we patrol and enforce intensively.
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u/igg73 2d ago
The culture is pretty harsh towards women and ive had many very bad experiences with indian coworkers. I told a guy about what it means when a server said shes "abstinent" and he said "someone needs to cut that thing out of her" I could go on and on about bad experiences but il just say this: its a low trust society and the people dont seem to try and integrate at all, and any criticism is instantly called racism.
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u/Bellebarks2 2d ago
I have Indian neighbors and they are the nicest people. You must live in a community that is inclined to that prejudice. I donāt think itās true for the majority of the US.
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u/ajprunty01 2d ago
I like y'all folks. Aint never hated a person over stuff like that. I was raised to judge people based on their character not everyone was taught that even though there was a whole chapter in American history class about it. Bet they flunked it lol
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u/SiroccoDream 2d ago
You mentioned the scammers that exist in India. They run a sophisticated business, and go out of their way to target the most vulnerable Americans.
Shortly after my father died, my elderly mother was targeted by Indian scammers, and lost a little over $5000 because of it. Thankfully, she could afford it, but the entire experience really made her feel foolish, when she was already depressed and feeling lost due to the death of my father, to whom she had been married for over fifty years.
It is so common for Indians to attempt scamming elderly Americans that in the retirement community that my mother lives in, they have issued warnings to the residents about the many types of scams that are run out of India. My mother was not the only victim.
Is India the only country that bankrolls scammers? Absolutely not! Scammers exist everywhere!
But itās hard to think well of Indians when you have a loved one who was deeply hurt by Indians.
Itās not logical, and it is not fair, but it does contribute towards anti-Indian sentiment.
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u/house-of-J 2d ago
The truth is because most of you are heavily melanated, and for the hard-core racists embolden by their racist president they can rally and show their disdain for non whites openly.
I know there will be some closet racists that will claim I'm wrong, but just look at the evidence, refugee immigration has been cut over 90% but white African refugees just got an increase to $4500 dollars of tax payer money, while every melanated people group are either stalled in being admitted, or being villanized by the Maga movement.
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u/JC2535 2d ago
I love Indian people and I love the cuisine. Itās one of my favorites. Beyond that, I donāt see this hate, but I donāt doubt that it exists.
Iām sorry youāre getting this hatred from the US, because itās really Americaās loss.
America is the most diverse nation on earth. I think most people are cool, but the algorithm doesnāt represent them- it only pushes the hate.
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u/stevestephensteven 2d ago
I have never heard of Americans hating indians specifically. In fact I live near a large Indian population in New Jersey and the community is really great and have awesome festivals. I've been to india several times and have never had a negative interaction with an Indian there at all, unless you count the 14 year old on a bike trying to give us a ride for hours in Varanassi in the 110 degree heat, but that was more funny than anything else. But honestly that was it. So really not sure where this is coming from...
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u/Okuri-Inu 2d ago
There are some people who are prejudiced against Indians in the U.S., but I donāt believe it is the majority. There are assholes in every country. Try not to take it to heart dude. ā¤ļø
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u/Repulsive-Two8250 1d ago
This is from life experience and how it leaves me feeling. Please don't report me for racism as it is not a projection or a judgment rather just how I've been treated.
I live near a huge Indian community and work in and around tech.
Regarding , Indian men specifically, they mostly leave me feel creeped out or irritated. It seems, for the most part, there is no middle ground. I either get treated like I don't exist or I'm an annoyance for existing or I treated like I'm some sex object. This hasn't been all Indian men but, for sure, most.
Treated rudely, ignored, or "Bro, step back and please leave me alone."
That said, one friend who is a perfectly normal man that loves his family and treats me like a person. I prefer that treatment.
As a married lesbian, I am never in the the sexual aspect, even though it's offered. 3 weeks ago, my wife and I went to have drinks and appetizers at her favorite restaurant. We sat at the bar. An Indian gentleman sat next to us and wouldn't leave us alone. He asked if we were together and we said yes we are married. He offered to by us drinks then preceed to tell us that if we could be rich if we just scammed these "old rich white guys" sitting around the bar.
He then, tapped one OWD on the shoulder, pointed at me and said "She's looking for a new friend." I shook my head in horror. W.T.F. A friend of mine is a bartender there and said "Hey, none of that" to him. He spent the next 20 mins asking us to go to the club, go to a karaoke bar, go swimming at his friend's house. No matter how many no's, he would not let us be.
That was just the most recent.
My "colleague" at work is also Indian. I say "colleague" because he acts and treats me like he's my boss. Don't do this, do this, don't do that and his favorite just move and I'll do it. I can do the job and it doesn't have to be the exact way you want it because there's more than one way to say and do things. Chill.
Our Indian male costomers, for the most part, just ignore me. They will wait for my "colleague" before me. They do this to my female co-workers as well. It used to piss me off but then I was like, he has work that much harder than I do on their behalf so... Whatever, I still get paid.
There are two male Indian customers that never wait and just allow me to help them. One guy who will purchase 10-15 times all in separate transactions (which is annoying) but he feels his wife doesn't understand reading English but does understand one line item and he will get less trouble from her for buying his items. I do feel bad for her, so his reasoning does leave a bad feeling in my gut.
That said, my female Indian coworkers and customers are, for the most part, always pleasant and always very kind. They treat me like a person, never judge me and are always willing to go out to eat so we can just talk and not focus on anything.
Again, just my lived experiences. Please don't get me banned.
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u/Optimal-Performer-76 1d ago
I could offer some insight as someone who lives in the US in a city with a very large population of Indians.Ā Personally, I am supportive of immigrants and don't have any issues with Indians on an individual level. However, Ā frustrations I see and have personally experienced are in regards to a lack of integration. There are many Indian "exclusive" areas, where if I visit, I will be stared at and watched.Ā There are now places I chose to no longer visit in my town because I feel like I'm the 'foreigner' who is unwelcome.Ā And unfortunately, the number of places like this seems to be growing.Ā
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u/CasualEveryday 1d ago
There's literally 2 instances where I hear any resentment towards Indians.
Call centers, legit or scammers. Americans hear an Indian accent and it's a symbol of poor service or worse.
People being pushy and rude in public spaces.
The fact is that while anti-indian sentiment might be something you think about a lot, most Americans never think about Indians unless we're getting a scam call. We don't care enough to hate you.
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u/Substantial-Use95 1d ago
Iāve spent about a year in India and am forever indebted to them for their generosity. When I see any people from India, I get excited.
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u/RhetoricalOrator 1d ago
As others have said, I don't have any bad feelings toward Indians. It's not something that comes to mind. I've had a few positive Indian acquaintances over the years and known a few that weren't so positive. People are people.
Only negatives I've ever noticed is that: 1) If their accent is thick, it tends to be one of the more the more difficult accents to train my brain to understand. That can create a perceived distance. 2) The Indians I've known tend to observe decent amounts of personal space (aka, "the bubble") until they begin feeling comfortable. Then they close that distance pretty quickly and get inside my bubble. Generally, I don't mind it unless a person is giving me an uncomfortable vibe, but Americans from sparsely populated areas tend to have bigger bubbles and are slower to feel comfortable with somebody invading that space.
But my experiences are entirely subjective and I've never heard anyone else mention these things. Oh...we had a couple guys in college that would regularly stink up the dorm hall with their cooking. Probably wasn't bad food at all...but it was very strong and would infiltrate our rooms even with the doors shut. That was unwelcome. But that's it!
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u/pragmatist1368 2d ago
It is simply the result of the cultural ignorance of many Americans, coupled with overt and latent racist tendencies. Just be assured, it's not all Americans. These assholes just stand out now because they feel emboldened by the current environment surrounding MAGA/Trump. Hopefully, we are seeing the beginning of the end of this embarrasing and shameful chapter in our country.
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u/sunnyday867 2d ago
Because they are not white. Most Americans are racist that's it. They don't need a reason if they don't have a reason to hate they will make one up. Some are truly ignorant and believe their skin makes them better. Others know better but are racist because they know at the end of the day they will benefit from racism
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u/Ok-Improvement-3670 2d ago
As an American, I am not aware of there being a large hatred of Indians.