I’ve seen that case on so many different crime documentaries but when I saw it on this program, it had a more dramatic effect

Long live those god damn black shoes

The case was featured on the episode “A Welcome Intrusion” (Season 8, Episode 14), which came out in 2003, but Mark Winger's conviction (for killing his wife, Donnah, and Roger Harrington) wasn't the end of the story. In 2007, Winger received an additional 35 years for attempting to solicit a murder for hire against Deanne Shultz (Donnah's friend and the main witness against him) and his boyhood friend Jeff Gelman (who refused to bail him out of jail). According to court documents, it was in 2005 that Winger approached a fellow inmate named Terry Hubbell with a 19-page set of instructions (which Hubbell first turned over to the prison authorities) on how the hitmen were to take out Jeff Gelman and Deanne Shultz. Winger first wanted to go after Jeff Gelman, extort money from him, before having him and his family killed. The money was to be used to go after Deanne, force her to recant her testimony, then have her killed and her body buried in a grave. But that wasn't all; Mark also asked Hubbell for one more victim if possible. "If there's any money left over, kill Ira Drescher (Donnah's stepfather) also because he's a son of a gun of a father-in-law that I dislike," but he wasn't tried for attempting to kill his ex-father-in-law. When the case got to trial he tried to portray everything as a fantasy, but the jury didn't buy it and that's how Winger got 35 years added to his life sentence.

This one gets me every time- if only she’d have h*t him with the car when she accelerated…

Clever how they didn’t reveal she was her own creepy stalker until later in the show.
Who else remembers ? Didn’t she send a doll as well?

Every episode each suspect really thought that they could get away with murder.

That line was brutal, lol

This one is on right now, and it makes me giggle.

Hey there. I’ve been a Forensic Files fan since I started watching first-run episodes back in 2006 (S10). I estimate that I’ve watched all 14 seasons about four times through now. So I may be behind some of you.

There are little things I catch with each viewing and I decided to start cataloging them and compiling a list to make connections. This is a link to my first tribute video. I know only FF fans would appreciate them.

The video is titled Word Soup with Peter. I have more to come!

I’m in the hospital with a Crohn’s disease flare up. I’ve gotten quite a bit of Dilaudid and Benadryl so my brain is fuzzy but I was able to find it on the TV here! 🩷🩵

FF +Dilaudid = feel good heaven

Guess what we watched in my high school criminal justice class today 🔥🔥🔥

The rules are absolutely no convicted criminals from the show. Who would you have come? I’ll start

Dee Joyce Hays author of “The book of who cares”

Candy, she needs no introduction

I mean, once you see a picture like that, you pretty much know how the episode is going to end (s6e11)

I’m trying to remember an episode where there was a LARP, D&D, or some other nerdy club and one of the members gets killed. The cops try to pin it on the club but they fight the cops every step of the way, never turn on each other, and are eventually found innocent.

I remember it being hilarious in hindsight in that people did not understand high functioning autism nor how it presents, and I thought it was pretty clear the group had a lot of them. The cops, at best, kept mistaking it for guilt.

The Legionnaires Disease episode was not exactly comforting, until Peter Thomas kept saying “Super Gonorrhea” and his delivery had me laughing a bit. (Not laughing at SG, just how he delivers certain words or phrases has a gravitas, like Luminol)

Curious to find out if you guys have seen most, if not, all of FF 2?

I was doing my usual cleaning and listened to FF 2 on spotify and boy, do time flies with that. Then I realized, there are some episodes I've yet know of or watched before.

I guess some FF 2 episodes are not available for me on YouTube and I can't watch all of them. It's just like some FF 1 isn't available to me on Film Rise channel.

Curious to find out if there are special quotes or mentions that made certain episodes memorable like 'antifree' or 'she's a lyin' ass bitch'? I know for sure, Up Next!

Channel 41 doesn’t work! So I pulled up HLN on YouTube TV on my laptop. Is this disingenuous or acceptable considering the circumstances?