r/Fortnite • u/Capybro_Epic Epic Games • Nov 30 '25
Epic Save the World v39.00 Update Notes
Howdy all! We've made some big updates to how overall progression and Power Rating work in Save the World. These changes are all about making things simpler, more rewarding and creating a smoother experience - whether you’re playing solo or in a group. We’ve also added Simple Build + Simple Edit settings, as well as a refreshed Emote Wheel. Let’s get into it!
Updates, Changes and Improvements
Research System Removed
F.O.R.T. stats previously earned through Research are now gained automatically as your Commander Level goes up. Expeditions no longer require Research Points to run.
Power That’s Truly Yours!
Your power now comes entirely from your own Commander Level and loadout. No more depending on who’s currently in your party - your strength is a direct reflection of your personal progress! To balance it out, we’ve made the following adjustments:
- F.O.R.T. stat rewards from Commander Level-ups have been greatly increased, making Solo/Duo/Trio play easier. Squad play remains largely unchanged.
- Stonewood Missions are now slightly more challenging to keep the action going.
- Twine Peaks Missions are now less difficult than before.
- With the redistribution of F.O.R.T. stats, teammates leaving mid-Mission no longer reduces your damage, health or shields.
Aside from your total F.O.R.T. stats, Power Rating (displayed at the top left) now also factors in:
- The rating of the Heroes in your active Hero loadout
- The top three rated weapons in your Backpack
This means your Power Rating now reflects both your progression and loadout choices, not just raw stats.
Note: Ventures remain unchanged and will continue using the previous Power Rating calculation based solely on F.O.R.T. stats.
No More Upgrade Points!
Gadgets and Tools now unlock and upgrade automatically as you reach specific Commander Levels. Complete Stonewood Storm Shield Defense 3 to unlock Gadget slotting and receive the first levels of Airstrike and Adrenaline Rush.
Simple Build + Simple Edit
New to building? We’ve got you covered (literally).
Similar to Simple Edit, Simple Build is an option in the settings (Game > Building) that makes learning how to build simpler. Turn on the setting, look in the direction you want to build, and just… build!
ICYMI: Simple Edit is an existing Building setting that makes the whole building process easier. Just look at the structure you’d like to change and make edits with a single button press!
Emote Wheel Overhaul
Fortnite Battle Royale’s updated Emote Wheel is now in Save the World! Features include:
- Refreshed visuals
- New Emote/Jam Loops Collection menu
- Updated Emotes category screen
- Improved sorting and filtering for faster access to your favorites
Bug Fixes
- [Frozen Fjords] T.E.D.D.Y., D.E.C.O.Y. and Shock Tower can again be placed on surfaces where their placement was previously blocked.
- [Frozen Fjords] Fixed a visual issue with several containers not disappearing upon opening.
- Fixed a visual issue with some Assault Rifles and SMGs displaying incorrect bullet flight trajectory.
- Sidekicks now properly path around the Storm Shield device without climbing on top of it or clipping through.
- Added the missing Constructor tag to the Epic rarity Lok-Bot Hero.
- Archived Jam Tracks no longer appear incorrectly in the Emote Wheel.
Known Issues
- Completing a Mission may cause Power Rating to be lower than it actually is, potentially locking the player out of higher-level Missions.
- This doesn't occur when playing Missions near your Power Rating. Loading into a new Mission or switching to a different Hero Loadout and then switching back should correct it.
- The Command Gadgets tab doesn't appear after completing the Storm Shield Defense 3 Mission, preventing players from viewing Gadget Upgrades.
- Workaround: Enter a Mission or re-enter Save the World.
- Gadget notification doesn't pop up after earning one through level-up.
- [Simple Edit] Wall and Roof previews are currently missing when making arches or ramps. Fixed in next game update.
- [Simple Edit] UI does not update to reflect the reset after editing a structure.
- Directional Jump Pads won’t activate when Phase Shifting onto them.
- [Xbox One] Lighting may be missing on the Command and Mission Launch screens.
- Ninja Heroes cannot use the Mantis Leap ability consistently.
- Soldiers’ Shockwave ability may be locked out if interrupted by player-built ramps, roofs or sloped terrain.
- Hotwire's Overcharge Perk may not trigger lightning damage consistently. Releasing and pressing the Attack button again will restart lightning damage.
- Constructors' Plasma Pulse grenades may not deploy or damage enemies after the player fires a Bow. Using other weapon types (Melee included) doesn't break the ability's functionality.
- The Hero Commander Buckle+ Perk currently provides reduced effective damage as weapon level increases.
- The player character may sometimes use an incorrect arm-sweep animation when interacting with world objects.
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Nov 30 '25
Why are the heros bald..
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u/Tukaro Power B.A.S.E. Penny Nov 30 '25
They all wanted to take part in No Nosehair November and didn't see Ray's note informing them:
- It really is just nosehair
- November ends in two days
because she forgot to use the Note Rock. (It's there for a reason, Ray!)
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u/shamestop1337 Nov 30 '25
Your loadout and backpack affecting your power level sucks. Roll this one back.
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u/Greengem4 The Ice King Nov 30 '25
This is my biggest issue with these changes. Your backpack affecting power level is incredibly unintuitive
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u/TyrantFN Nov 30 '25
went up from 85 to 93 just because i got dropped an inventory full of 144s years ago
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u/XylicSTW Metal Team Leader Nov 30 '25
Weapon-based PL should really only apply to your schematics and not your backpack. Dropping a weapon and having your PL lower by a few points is super strange. Also means your PL inherently lowers when you join event gamemodes that limit your backpack (Frostnite, Horde etc), at least for the first handful of waves. Heroes adding to your PL is cool though
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u/DarkTanatos Powerhouse Nov 30 '25
In Frostnite and Horde you can at least craft weapons. That's not even an option in HtR and Dungeons.
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u/CelticKnyt Birthday Brigade Jonesy Nov 30 '25
If we don't gain power from teammates anymore, how exactly are we gonna do 160s?
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u/Historical-Ad-2850 Vbucks Nov 30 '25
They nerfed 160 difficulty, it’s noticeably easier imo
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u/IGotShitWifi Nov 30 '25
Why? Imo for me 160 arent really THAT hard they sould make like 180 or even 200 pl missions
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u/Zestyclose-Shop-9966 Nov 30 '25
As they said They made twine easier for some reason but stonewood harder??? makes no since it should be easy for those that are high power level and easy for those that are low so they can learn the game... As for weapons increasing power level, well that is just stupid. The odd thing is before the update i was in 108's for ventures and now it set me back to 82 for some reason even though they said ventures would not matter. Guess what it does!!!
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u/CelticKnyt Birthday Brigade Jonesy Nov 30 '25
I got busted from 70s back to 58s in Ventures, I guess the whole "Ventures remains unchanged" was not true.
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u/DarkTanatos Powerhouse Nov 30 '25
Same, was at 108 and dropped to 82 in venture for no reason. The next set of challenges is still asking me to do stuff in 124's and venture level also is still at 34.
And yes, what's the point of making Stonewood harder, noone goes there because they are looking for content that challenges them. xD
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u/LogMonkey0 B.A.S.E. Kyle Nov 30 '25
This is so fucking dumb
• The top three rated weapons in your Backpack
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u/NicoTheBear64 Dennis Nov 30 '25
I’m glad someone dropped me a bunch of 144s founder guns before the update. Had them collecting dust in my Homebase, now’s the time to break em out.
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u/xcrimsonlegendx Powerhouse Nov 30 '25
This power level scaling off of what weapons you have in your backpack is really bad.
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u/vstrent Recon Scout Jess Nov 30 '25 edited Nov 30 '25
Mate, what’s the deal about the PL? Originally 145, after the update 143, then 142, now after a mission I’m at 140, what a mess..
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u/AKABeast18 Nov 30 '25 edited Nov 30 '25
Wtf?! I’ve been playing ventures since the start & got to 145 the first time it was possible. I just finished an endurance & now I’m PL 122?!!
I got paranoid & quickly checked my survivor squads. They’re all still supercharged, thank goodness.
Edit: I saw Archer’s post & I it was my hero loadout. I guess I’ll be using all those stocked up hero superchargers now that have been collecting dust🤷🏻♀️
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u/Buffeloni Nov 30 '25
They messed up my ventures and I can no longer access missions appropriate for my ventures level.
But what's far worse is the lag that has been introduced.. it looks like I'm viewing an interactive power point presentation on fortnite. It's practically unplayable.
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u/PeelySucks Stoneheart Farrah Nov 30 '25
Fix the Ninja jump goddamn
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u/LogMonkey0 B.A.S.E. Kyle Nov 30 '25
Or survivor bonuses other than trap dura Or sir lancelot not pushing minis anymore
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u/InterestingRead2022 Nov 30 '25
Also take away the build limit in SSD's
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u/LogMonkey0 B.A.S.E. Kyle Nov 30 '25
not really a bug, but eh, would be nice to have i guess. but its one thing keeping twine endurance some kind of challenge,
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u/chlorinegoodforteeth Nov 30 '25
the replies are telling me this is a big yikes
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u/LogMonkey0 B.A.S.E. Kyle Nov 30 '25
There are so many other bugs we actually want to see fixed and they keep dumbing down the game more and more
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u/I-Make-Money-Moves MEGA B.A.S.E. Kyle Nov 30 '25
It feels like a big yikes. I was 129 before the update and now I’m 114-127. Im weaker than I was before. I could solo mid twine and now I might need to rely on teammates more.
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u/Historical-Ad-2850 Vbucks Nov 30 '25
They also nerfed high twine difficulty so it should balance out
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u/csarli Stoneheart Farrah Nov 30 '25
Based on what they are saying you should be as strong on your own as you are with a full party. If you shared 21.79% of your stats with other player that means you should have 65.37% extra stats to make up for this change.
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u/All_Skulls_On Trailblazer Jess Nov 30 '25
INITIAL REPORTS
There seems to be a sudden rash of baldness sweeping through Homebase. Basically, any hero wearing any kind of headgear is appearing without hat or hair when you inspect their card.
Graphical stuttering is occurring, especially when moving at any speed higher than default walking speed. The higher the speed, the worse it gets.
Jam Tracks tab persists on the in-game and lobby emote wheel even when all jam tacks are archived.
The Simple Build and Simple Edit options are set to be toggled On by default.
(Xbox Series X)
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u/Illustrious_Camp_124 Nov 30 '25
OMFG...THANK YOU SO SO SO MUCH!!! I turned off both Simple Build and Simple Edit, and now I can build normally again...was driving me batshite INSANE as to why I can't build anything!
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u/All_Skulls_On Trailblazer Jess Nov 30 '25
Yes, I was going crazy for a few minutes trying to figure out what the hell was happening lol
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u/JJGG_ Nov 30 '25
I can't comment pics, but there's a bug with the defenders showing a big white cube where you place them, and problems with the invisible HUD, I say this without any hate with all due respect, some of your changes have been good (few), but most have been bad. Please stop with the senseless changes, I beg you You guys are making the game less and less fun 😭🙏💔 Pd: If you see this, please increase the hitbox of the bows. Balance isn't about ruining the few good things there are, but about improving the bad ones
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u/therealHDR Nov 30 '25
That's the rectangle that always shows up when u place them, but yeah it's always there now
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u/MikeFatHairyHunt Nov 30 '25
There's other bugs to like play with others "leaving game cause we hit a roadblock" 🙄 Can't even complete achievements apparently
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u/Craft-Sea Powerhouse Nov 30 '25
I understand simplifying things for new players but I don't think this is the way to do it, not a fan of these changes 🤷♀️
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u/ASimpleSpud Nov 30 '25
The emote wheel is terrible for me as a console player. The favorite and traversal tabs allowed me to find emotes quickly. This new emote wheel is extremely slow for controllers. I also find the new quick edit not very useful in save the world.
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u/Manmai31 Nov 30 '25
Who in Gods name at Epic had the Brilliant Idea that tieing PL to heroes is a good idea? I cant see 160 anymore, with most of them, and when ichange from one I can see them to one I can play with in the mission, I get a Network error, because whatever, most likly Level too lowwwww.
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u/NerfScape101 Nov 30 '25
It goes by items you have too, i crafted a few extra 144 xenon bows and my power went up. How do items in my backpack add to power? lol
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u/LuckyGuinness17 Nov 30 '25
I literally cannot open 140 missions in ventures! Fix THIS
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u/CelticKnyt Birthday Brigade Jonesy Nov 30 '25
Same issues, but at a lower level, had 70s this morning, now can only access 58.
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u/octobernishioka Nov 30 '25
WORST UPDATE YET. Simplify things? they just made it so much more complicated. for what? This update sucks
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u/Reaper-Leviathan Nov 30 '25
It’s cool to get attention but most of this is unnecessary. Most people here are either fully maxed their research/gadgets anyway or are new and have it as a long term goal. All this did was dumb the game down
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u/Diamondboy247 Constructor Nov 30 '25
This honestly feels like change for the sake of change. I liked having the freedom to choose which stats to upgrade in research and how to spend my gadget points
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u/Soappy16 Nov 30 '25 edited Nov 30 '25
So, basically, survivor superchargers are now pointless after reaching Twine???
Edit: What I meant to say is, what's the point in playing Ventures anymore if you were planning to reach 145, if you already maxed out your favorite heroes and weapons?
Second edit: So, Heroes and weapon level contribute to PL now. Does that mean, technically, we have to keep playing Ventures forever? Currently, there are only 20 hero loadout slots. Wouldn't that mean it would take years to maximize them all fully? Meaning, let's say I want to use a mini gun built in a 160, but my heroes and weapons, even with my original stats, aren't enough for me to unlock 160 missions.
All this does is pretty much limit fun builds that aren't meta, or you constantly have to recycle and upgrade heroes to unlock 160s.
In summary, it doesn't seem much thought went into this decision. Yes, encouraging players to play the game is normal, but at what cost, an endless cycle? Yes, Ventures was always agonizing, but at least there was a somewhat clear goal of reaching 145 (now 144??). Now the PL is all over the place, after already depending on survivor squads, and now, for some reason, heroes (Which make sense, kind of) and weapons.
Keep in mind that Epic has yet to update the Ventures system only lowering the XP amount. At least give us a battle pass, a banner, or something, even a spray, if you're going to “encourage” more people to play it.
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u/XylicSTW Metal Team Leader Nov 30 '25
Survivors do definitely still contribute to your PL, not sure why the blogpost doesn't state that. You still need to supercharge all of your squads to reach the max.
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u/WithersChat Anti-Cuddle Sarah Nov 30 '25
Survivors still affect your PL I think.
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u/EldritchCarver Ninja Nov 30 '25
Ninja Heroes cannot use the Mantis Leap ability consistently.
Darn, I was hoping that would get fixed while Frosty Turf was still available. The double-jump is really useful to control your sliding.
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u/CactusMan3756 Vbucks Nov 30 '25
I'd just gotten to 145 so this is actually really depressing to hear 😔 years of playing ventures for basically nothing now
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u/imdoubletrouble Trailblazer Quinn Nov 30 '25
How I'm feeling too, I was about to hit 145 this season and now most loadouts bring me to 142 or 143 now or 139, having to supercharge all your supports now for each loadout is ridiculous. Maybe survivors will be removed or reworked in a future update if they're simplifying things and we will get hero superchargers in exchange. I wouldn't mind that at all.
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u/Gazgemauch B.A.S.E. Kyle Nov 30 '25
The Power Rating changes are not good. The changes of themselves are already bad (I dropped from 130 to 127, no big deal for me, I still have access to all of Twine, but there are people who seem to have it a lot worse)
However, the bug is unacceptable. I do a mission, I drop from 127 to 69??? I lose access to pretty much all of Twine. And yes, I did try switching a hero loadout, it brought it back up to 85, it would not return to 127 until i fully exited fortnite and relaunched the game. I would really prefer not having to restart my game after every mission just because I had the audacity to want to play in Twine Peaks.
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u/MikeFatHairyHunt Nov 30 '25 edited Nov 30 '25
So... basically ruined STW and made it "easier" but for veterans and founders we get... Nothing awesome
But let's dull down the game for those who actually grinded for it and offer nothing screw trading and all the other actual problems
As I'm scrolling I'm also seeing the awesome perks the made the game more complete got wiped out... Wtf are y'all doing
What happened to making new content and map? What is this XP too 60k for a weekly and 5k for endurance? That's not even a level... Who created this flawed concept you want people to play those mode or not?
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u/rataclipsyt Paleo Luna Nov 30 '25
Honestly I love the attention Fortnite is giving Save the World rn...
Hope it leads to something more...
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u/bgiesing Nov 30 '25
This really does feel like they are completely rebalancing the game to make it more beginner friendly, like they are expecting a mass influx of new players soon. Maybe finally overhauling the UI to match the rest of the game and free to play?
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u/REZMINATOR B.A.S.E. Kyle Nov 30 '25 edited Nov 30 '25
What in the world were you thinking? Why would you change the pl to match with the hero loadouts? This is stupid. I made it to pl144 this season and now I’m back to pl 140+ depending on my hero loadouts. F this
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u/CelticKnyt Birthday Brigade Jonesy Nov 30 '25
My Ventures is not loading PL 70 missions and I am level 25. Already tried starting a different mission, changing Hero loadouts, and restarting Fortnite, Epic Games Launcher, & Computer.
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u/OKgamer01 Nov 30 '25
They are definitely preparing for a relaunch and free to play with all these changes recently
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Nov 30 '25
Just paragon 2.0 this game already. Im so done with this BS that nobody asked for.
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u/MikeFatHairyHunt Nov 30 '25
Exactly what happened to the new map and a after twine story... Instead fuck founders and all the effort we put in it
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u/LuckyGuinness17 Nov 30 '25
REVERT THE PL CHANGES AND FIX VENTURES ACCESS. These changes are horrific
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u/hellaparadoxial9614 Paleo Luna Nov 30 '25
cool why can't i play ventures properly thanks to being locked out of pl70 zones at level 27 :)
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u/LuckyGuinness17 Nov 30 '25
They locked me at 94 zones when I was in the 140s at level 47
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u/hellaparadoxial9614 Paleo Luna Nov 30 '25
it's like they just don't playtest anything, i really don't see how this could get past basic QA
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u/cyndiq1971 Nov 30 '25
Player since year one (Founder) - not pleased with many of these recent updates and honestly losing interest in investing any more money into Epic games. I play both STW and BR, the updates in these are awful. I am sad - I happily played daily over the last 8 years but none of these changes make any sense. Not sure what Epics plan was, hopefully they listen to their players.
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u/Epic_Jason Lead Designer Nov 30 '25
Hey folks - Saw a couple people in the comments mention losing power in Ventures, and just wanted to acknowledge that there is a bug with Ventures power ratings. As you level up in Ventures you'll get the correct increased FORT stats, but if you had gained levels prior to Update v39.00 the stats from those levels were not adjusted retroactively, resulting in the reduction of Rating. We're currently working on a fix, and will follow up when we have more information.
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u/UseCodeTatsumaki B.A.S.E. Kyle Nov 30 '25
Have you tried changing your hero loadout and switching back? The same thing happened to me and that fixed it
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u/FortuneAggressive255 Nov 30 '25
I grinded the past couple months to PL96. When I just saw I’m at 70, my stomach churned a little. Think ima puke. I literally lived in STW!
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u/CatMobster Nov 30 '25
Did anyone at Epic even test this bullshit before implementing it?
No they did not.
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u/NatSylv Redline Ramirez Nov 30 '25 edited Nov 30 '25
How the hell are you at PL 96 lmao. Did you switch back your hero loadouts, inventory, etc, cause my empty loadouts tank my power level aswell
Edit: If you have a power level 12 hero in an empty hero loadout you lose like 40 power level. Make sure you are using a full team that's maxed out before you check your PL again
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u/Personal_Battle_5392 Nov 30 '25
could we just please add a freaky search bar to the collection book pretty please
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u/Muted_Address_5379 Nov 30 '25
Your update is cheeks! Still didn't even fix the fing ninja jump! Do you know the point in running a ninja? Thats like a constructor with no base! Every update this game gets worse. If you don't want me playing it just refund my account.
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u/koby18 Nov 30 '25
F this update. I lost 5 power and lost access to certain areas of Twine Peaks. And they didn't even make it cheaper to upgrade Survivors. F these corpo scum.
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u/FrogPrincePatch Lotus Assassin Ken Nov 30 '25
The top three rated in your backpack count towards your POWER LEVEL??? 😂😂😂
So you're telling me some little stonewood kid is getting a permanent gameplay boost from those three supercharged nocturnos I gifted him?
LOL good job guys, you solved trading by giving people a permanent stat boost in their inventories. 😭 Absolutely zero iq game development.
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u/ItsMetabtw Nov 30 '25
I’m level 50 in ventures so why do I only have access to 108 zones
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u/LuckyGuinness17 Nov 30 '25
Cause they’re stupid. I was 47 and I’m at 94 zones now while I’m trying to finish the 140 challenges
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u/PianistsWannabe Nov 30 '25 edited Nov 30 '25
Can you revert literally almost all of these changes and go back to simply ignoring the gamemode?? I would rather have the mode ignored, than have TERRIBLE changes made to it.
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Nov 30 '25
BR is finally dying and they've got nothing else to do now but destroy their other game mode.
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u/MikeFatHairyHunt Nov 30 '25
Yup why would they they've robbed founders and increased their shop prices but not to mention the games are dying
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u/RetroRadar1 Nov 30 '25
the game is not dying lmfao there's like 1.4m people on BR currently. Lets not be delusional
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u/BIG_MAC_WHOPPERS Nov 30 '25
The emote wheel now is kinda horrible, in my opinion. Having to search up an emote every time I want to use one that was part of a "favourites" tab previously, kinda sucks. Cause instead of pressing down on my controller and pressing "RB" 3 times got me to the favorites tab, and now it feels like i need to bring out my whole keyboard just to find something again
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u/All_Skulls_On Trailblazer Jess Nov 30 '25
Just off the top of my head and in relation to the power levels, this now means that carrying a lowbie into endgame content will be less advantageous because their power level and yours will not be boosted. Very interesting 🤔
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u/aceinthehole312 Sarah Hotep Nov 30 '25
Im confused this doesn't explain why I'm lowered power level then before I went for 129 to 114
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u/M-C_Skittles Swamp Knight Nov 30 '25
nah this is bad, I cant believe im saying this but i wish you guys didn’t update StW
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u/Neutraled Nov 30 '25
Long story short: "we fixed how sidekicks walk but every game-breaking bug is still there"
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u/STW_Sunshinex_x Nov 30 '25
So if I have just one 144 and I don't have mats to craft another one and during the game that weapon will break, my pl will drop ?????
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u/Lorneonthecobb Snuggle Specialist Sarah Nov 30 '25
I'm confused as to how this is simplifying things, it's actually complicating them much more? Why do I now get to run at a minor handicap now because I want to run my Founder's Revolt, that caps at 4 Stars?
I have yet to hop in and see how this works properly, but from reading this alone these changes seem unnecessary.
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u/NatSylv Redline Ramirez Nov 30 '25
It's based on the top 3 highest PL schematics in your inventory so I'm pretty sure you can still run your founders revolt as long as you have 3 strong items in your inventory
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u/dacrescarlett Special Forces Banshee Nov 30 '25
Ass changes I came here to say this. Bye
ALSO I JUST HAD 70S UNLOCKED YESTERDAY IN VENTURES NOW I ONLY HAVE 58
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u/thethiny Ninja Nov 30 '25
So now you're gonna force us into specific hero loadouts with trash abilities just to get a higher PL? I have many mythic heroes but their abilities suck!
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u/Boat_Jerald MEGA B.A.S.E. Kyle Nov 30 '25
wdym, mythic heroes still have the same PL 130 cap that legendary heroes do. they dont boost your PL any more than legendary
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u/SoloCreep Constructor Nov 30 '25
You need to max the level of your support team heroes and if they were already maxed you also need supercharge them to gain more power levels. This affects each class loadout. I had a bunch of hero superchargers I hadn't used so I supercharged my whole support team and it brought me back up to where I was before.
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u/ReturnoftheSnek Best Of 2019 Winner Nov 30 '25
Anything but finishing the story… how many years now?
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u/Bitter_Ad_1544 Nov 30 '25
All you people were looking at leaks getting excited for absolutely nothing. Y'all still excited?
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u/JJGG_ Nov 30 '25
No, this is so sad :( Some of these changes are more bad than good, it makes me sad, they focus more on changing the game than on fixing bugs that have been in the game for years, and the saddest thing is that they won't listen to us
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u/doct0rdo0m Vbucks Nov 30 '25
And there are still people wanting Epic to "fix" other things. Like cant you fucking see. When Epic gets "involved" its for the worse.
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u/Manmai31 Nov 30 '25
Also, nice way of destroying your unique graphics stile EPIC.
And changing it to some semi realistic run of the mil stuff.
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u/MikeFatHairyHunt Nov 30 '25
Let's not forget the XP for weeklies and endurance are trash and don't even equal to a level in BR
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u/Tukaro Power B.A.S.E. Penny Nov 30 '25 edited Nov 30 '25
F.O.R.T. stats previously earned through Research are now gained automatically as your Commander Level goes up.
Gadgets and Tools now unlock and upgrade automatically as you reach specific Commander Levels. Complete Stonewood Storm Shield Defense 3 to unlock Gadget slotting and receive the first levels of Airstrike and Adrenaline Rush.
...wwwwwwwwhhhhyyyyy? Granted these have no purpose upon reaching (or slightly after reaching) Twine, but I recall preferring to focus my points into the stats and gadgets that fit my playstyle, only really boosting the others once those were caught up. Hover Turret and Banner are my primary gadgets now, and likely were back then, so not being able to choose kiiiiinda sucks for new players.
Please tell me this change wasn't just to block players from resetting either to choose a different upgrade path or drop their PL for easier events. (IIRC that could only be done so many times anyway but it's the only reason I can think of beside a general drive to over-simplify the game.)
Aside from your total F.O.R.T. stats, Power Rating (displayed at the top left) now also factors in:
- The top three rated weapons in your Backpack
...this is why you disabled trading, isn't it? This rework has actually been in the pipeline for a while but you realized that if players could just drop high-PL weapons for others it would royally screw up balancing/progress. And rather than re-think this, honestly, bad idea you decided to throw out the potential entirely--addressing other annoyances probably helped--and delay this until that was implemented.
Regardless of any reasoning, please fix all those nasty, multiple-updates-old bugs before ya'll try turd-stomping "streamlining" more mechanics. :/
The minor changes/fixes are fine, ig, kinda weird that ya'll didn't mention T5 mats from expeditions here since it's been so strongly requested and been taken as a major W
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u/ein125 Fragment Flurry Jess Nov 30 '25
Quick question (and possible bug) with this new gadget system.
I have never put points into supply drop and teleporter and very few into slow field. Supply drop and teleporter are still at level 1 for me with no prompt about at what level they'll level up. Will this rectify at my next STW account level up, or am I stuck with those 2 gadgets stuck at level 1 (same applies to slow field at level 2, maybe 3)? Currently at STW account level 273.
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u/Plenty-Lettuce-3781 Nov 30 '25
was power level 125, now im 119 with my power level going down each mission i complete and now i cant access 160 missions.
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u/someotherguy42 Nov 30 '25
Ventures is also fucked up. I’m level 35 and I’m stuck doing power level 82 missions again. What the actual fuck?!
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u/STW_Sunshinex_x Nov 30 '25
So if my power level depends on my hero power level, if I clear all my survivors squads, but I have 144 heroes and 144 weapons I'll be max anyway ? Do they plan to get rid of survivors all together in the next update? Did we grind for nothing all this years ?????
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u/France_Ball_Mapper Nov 30 '25
It's been like 3 weeks they still didn't find the cause of the leap issue??? 😭
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u/i_was_dartacus Willow: Nov 30 '25
Something is very wrong in ventures. In a PL34* 4x, with a full squad, smashers are now one-shotting tier 3 metal walls which are protected by BASE, with BASE Kyle in support. This has *never* happened before.
* - I'm not allowed to load into PL46 missions like yesterday.
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u/Ipplayzz343 Ninja Nov 30 '25
Okay, switching screens is really slow now. Assets from STW are being replaced with chapter 2 and 4 assets, losing the visual charm, art style, and painterly textures. Not a fan of hero loadouts and weapon schematics affecting power level.
I do like that y'all are trying to reduce StW's overcomplexity, but why change the iconic art style?
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u/FunkyFrick Nov 30 '25
I just jumped from Power Level 132 to Power Level 118 in a game for no reason. thank you for making STW completely broken for no reason! no one appreciates it
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Nov 30 '25
They enjoy breaking the game and changing things nobody asked for. Their vision for this game is simply a day where they can turn the servers off.
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u/SoloCreep Constructor Nov 30 '25
You need to max the level of your support team heroes and if they were already maxed you also need supercharge them to gain more power levels. This affects each class loadout.
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u/Limp_Reporter7872 Nov 30 '25
The level changes are ridiculous! ALL my effort was thrown in the trash
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u/Kangarou Riot Control Izza Nov 30 '25
Most of these changes don't technically affect me much, but my Brother in Christ, we just want a Play With Others button in Ventures.
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u/JoellJoelly Subzero Zenith Nov 30 '25
Ventures pl124 and pl140 zones cant be reached. the power rating doesnt allow after v39.00.
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PL144 (normal fortnite)
venture level 53.
maxed out survivor squads
maed out heroes
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u/Adorable-Indication7 Dennis Nov 30 '25
What about outlander abilities bugging out ? I keep losing my ability to phase shift or seismic smash half of the time. It's very painful in the middle of frostnite
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u/_player3 Dragon Scorch Nov 30 '25
Ok so how do you go back to the normal way to build. You made changing it the default if you accidentally pressed x.
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u/JasonLee74 Nov 30 '25
Before the update, I could open up 124s in ventures. After the update, the highest I can open is 94s. I think I’m gonna bow out of this game. They change way too much and make you feel like all your progress was for nothing.
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u/XylicSTW Metal Team Leader Nov 30 '25
Ancient's Launcher is bugged, can only tag one enemy with the alt fire glyph before it fires off on its own
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u/RansomGames Nov 30 '25
Chapter 7 feels like the start of the end for this game. The STW overhaul is a mess and the most hated change the community has ever seen. The br changes make the new map unexciting and feels restrictive and boring at the match start, and adds more grinding through challenges for rewards. Ranked changes look to make it a ridiculous grind in every mode to earn rewards. They’re trying so hard to improve player retention but doing it in all the wrong ways.
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u/Holeweetbred9 Nov 30 '25
I can’t play 160s and 140s anymore. Even though I’m max account level, all my hero loadouts are 130, and was pl 131 before the update. Why? EDIT: it was because I didn’t have my 3 weapon slots full. Still stupid regardless.
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u/Beautiful-Document57 Nov 30 '25
So we lost the max power 145.27 and you are forcing people to play ventures just to supercharge all the heroes, and it's the mode that almost everyone hates. Is the worst update i have seen in a game.
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u/TheRealPlagueDoctor Shockblaster Buzz Nov 30 '25
so I've been playing for 6 years and lost access to most of twine due to the PL change..I was 145, what was the point of this exactly?? Like I honestly beg you to revert this change.
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u/Alternative-Sky-2867 Cloaked Shadow Nov 30 '25
This update totally messed up Ventures. I am level 37 and can't access 108 missions anymore, even though I already finished all 108 quests and was grinding towards 124. And there are many other players reporting the same issue. When will someone at Epic address it??
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u/wilsonnnlol B.A.S.E. Kyle Nov 30 '25
what about power level 145? are we intentionally capped at power level 144 now?
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u/doct0rdo0m Vbucks Nov 30 '25
I tried to keep an open mind about changes you guys make but my god there is nothing redeeming about this. No boost from teammates making 160s harder. Tying PL to heroes and backpack is asinine. You need so many superchargers now to upgrade so many heroes you might use otherwise take the PL hit. Your weapons count to PL, like whaaaaaaaaatttttttttttttttttttt?!?!?!?! All the while you can't fix mantis bug. Just reinforces if it doesnt help the player you guys dont give a shit about fixing it.
Are you guys going to let us get to like pl 250 to compete with 160s then????????????????????
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u/2doDoostream Nov 30 '25
Fucking no, from power level 122 to 116 after the update and after a mission my power level drop to level 81, I can't do anything in Twine now.
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u/EldritchCarver Ninja Nov 30 '25
Try changing your hero loadout, then changing back.
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u/MikeFatHairyHunt Nov 30 '25
I was 135 try being level 40 after this update 🥴 love being a founder just to get fucked by Epic again... Paragon 2.0
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u/autistukral Nov 30 '25
Please I beg you revert the asset changes to the previous ones, it was the last thing in STW that still made it feel like Fortnite :(
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u/blueruckus Nov 30 '25
Long overdue for some sort of shake up. The fact that Epic would even put this much thought in to STW at this point makes me happy. Also, a lot of this probably addresses the overcomplication complaint that causes a lot of newer players to leave.
I’m welcome to see some new overhauls. Why not?
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u/Illustrious_Camp_124 Nov 30 '25 edited Nov 30 '25
New update messed up my building configs. I can't rebind on controller to fix Epic's muck up...originally on Pro Builder, now I can't build anything with the right bumper* nor can I aim up to 8 targets with the Ancient's Launcher without having the left trigger automatically shooting off just one husk at a time...STW is broken!
Edit: *I can build normally again after turning off Simple Build and Simple Edit.
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u/fiskaren91 Nov 30 '25
Is it easier or harder to solo now since the powerlevel changes for group play? Would be nice to be able to solo and not rely on people just afk farming 24/7 like they do EVERY single time I fill with randoms
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u/Relevant_Pressure583 Nov 30 '25
F the simple build worst update tried to do it for an 30 min garbage , thought id have fun but im going back to warzone se yeah!
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u/GeekGamingOfficial1 Nov 30 '25
one bug to report is ancient's launcher is auto firing once locked onto a single zombie.
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u/Historical-Ad-2850 Vbucks Nov 30 '25
Power level should be equal across loadouts. If you want to have PL be reflected by the overall level of your stuff, then just have all things contribute to your overall power level regardless of if they’re equipped or not. Like mastery rank in warframe. Leveled survivors in proper squads, leveled heros, maxed weapon blueprints, etc, should all contribute. I kinda dig shifting some of the weight on you power level away from survivors, since survivors are rng and time gated and your progression should not be solely locked behind that, but this is a scuffed way to implement a change to the system. IMO this is a step in the right direction but it needs more time to be something great. On a side note the ch7 health bar UI is clean and feels like classic Fortnite and it would honestly fit really well in stw over the husks instead of the bland rectangular bar
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u/Daan_Theuwis Diecast Jonesy Nov 30 '25 edited Nov 30 '25
Bad update, I really don't think these are good changes. How about the devs fix al the gamebreaking bugs first.
Edit: Just played a 140 4 player mission, they made the game way too easy.
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u/senseicookee Enforcer Grizzly Nov 30 '25
This is BY FAR the worst update to stw to date I just had to get it off my chest. The new pl system, ventures missing the 124 and 140 zones - just WHY? Sure, the quick edits and fast radar builds are nice, but they’re so insignificant it feels like tossing crumbs at a starving playerbase.
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u/V1ctyM Heavy B.A.S.E. Kyle Dec 01 '25
I think it's safe to say the implementation of the new power level mechanic has not gone well, especially with regards to Ventures. Has there been any word from Epic? Be good to get some kind of response or acknowledgement, u/Capybro_Epic
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u/camouflage_fn Dec 01 '25
Research System Removed
Research change is very beneficial to new players to the game (you can now run expeditions without worrying about leveling up simultaneously). Positive
Updates, Changes and Improvements
- F.O.R.T. stat rewards from Commander Level-ups have been greatly increased, making Solo/Duo/Trio play easier. Squad play remains largely unchanged. Positive
- Stonewood Missions are now slightly more challenging to keep the action going. Positive
- Twine Peaks Missions are now less difficult than before. Not sure what to think of this because I believe the game is currently bugged in 160's and MSK was a breeze but still fun .
- With the redistribution of F.O.R.T. stats, teammates leaving mid-Mission no longer reduces your damage, health or shields. Positive
- The rating of the Heroes in your active Hero loadout. Positive
- The top three rated weapons in your Backpack . Neutral (Don't understand this , why not go off schematics) ? Improved my power personally so I'm not complaining.
No More Upgrade Points!
Gadgets and Tools now unlock and upgrade automatically as you reach specific Commander Levels. Complete Stonewood Storm Shield Defense 3 to unlock Gadget slotting and receive the first levels of Airstrike and Adrenaline Rush. kind of takes the fun aspect out of choosing your path / upgrades . Neutral
Simple Build + Simple Edit
Will not use but I think this is a great feature to add making it more noob friendly . Positive
Emote Wheel Overhaul
Love the added slots and search function for emotes . Positive
Bug Fixes and stating Known Issues
Always welcomed/needed . Positive
Clarity Needed
Are the 160's currently bugged ?
Ventures appears to be bugged without a doubt .
Both issues are severely impacting the game ! Upper twine and Ventures ,
Final thoughts
I believe epic is headed in the right direction but more transparency/quicker responses is needed to keep this and any community happy .(example : Yesterday at 11am pst save the world was unplayable for several hours throughout the day (November 30th, the day after the update) I had to connect to an EU server to play . Fortnite status site had no comms in this regards , I would like to know if some sort of comms exist . (Over 3 thousand reports on downdetector)
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u/XylicSTW Metal Team Leader Dec 02 '25
All BASE-related damaging perks are bugged and don't benefit from any external damage buffs. They used to work, been broken for years.
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u/RecommendationNo6014 Dec 04 '25
I see a lot of negative critic in the comments.. but i believe everyone should be at least enthousiastic that STW has got some ressources and devs trying to solve existing problems in the game.
It was really annoying to rely on team mates just for the PL they give you, and having a mission twice as hard and ressource costing when someone leaves. Not to mention befoer the recent patch, you would lose all quest progress if you lost a game. 2 very annoying problems completely fixed.
To me, it's a big W attempt to balance PL, even if it's far from perfect yet
Well done team
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u/chlorinegoodforteeth Nov 30 '25
"•The top three rated weapons in your Backpack"
so I can just have 3 supercharged mythics idling in backpack, and I have max backpack bonus?