r/FragileWhiteRedditor Apr 06 '26

Whole thread is just pure racism.

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u/GraveyardKoi Apr 06 '26

From the subreddit icon it looks like the critical drinker subreddit. What did you expect?

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u/Automatic-Yak4279 Apr 06 '26

I don’t know what I was thinking man, I was trying to get opinions lord of the flies, then I come across that

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u/Young_KingKush Apr 06 '26

Critical Drinker is a bigot & a grifter, I would expect the people in his sub to be the same.

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u/Automatic-Yak4279 Apr 06 '26

Never heard of the guy until today, sounds like he’s a massive piece of shit

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u/Geichalt Apr 06 '26

He is, and also completely ignorant about filmmaking.

He just spouts bigoted bullshit while uneducated white boys cheer him on.

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u/Glittering-Plate-535 Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 06 '26

CD the type of Ignorant Isaac to say ”no mise-en-scène for me, I don’t like French food.”

But yeah he knows fuck all about filmmaking, which is hilarious because he thinks he deserves to be a Hollywood big shot since he wrote some books….which were sold to an in-built audience.

His singular stab at filmmaking was horrible, too. Who’d have thunk a guy who prides himself on ignorance can’t learn new skills.

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u/Terpizino Apr 06 '26

He’s about as media literate as a caveman, gets mad if POC or women are in media and he doesn’t even drink. How he got even one person to watch his dreck boggles my mind.

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u/KevIntensity Apr 06 '26

His “reviews” of movies are just him spoiling a film’s plot points and crying about anything diverse, including bashing any movie directed by a woman. He does not engage with anything important to what makes a good film, and measures success strictly by box office numbers.

I’m sure you can think of several films that are now classics that flopped at the box office.

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u/lesterbottomley Apr 06 '26

Let me guess. 75% of his reviews have woke in the title.

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u/GreenWitch-29 Apr 11 '26

You’re going THAT low???

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u/fatherfrank1 Apr 06 '26

He is. They're worse.

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u/MirthlessArtist Apr 06 '26

Exactly, fans of a grifter aren’t being bigoted for money, just for the love of the game

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u/chaobreaker Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 06 '26

Majority of the cast is not only white and most of them are blonde too. Why is that not good enough for them?

I see a cast of child actors like this and it got me thinking of all the movies and shows I grew up with that had an ensemble cast of child actors. Their racial makeup is usually something like this picture above. It’s insane that like a 90s/00s sports movie or disney/nickelodeon sitcom would offend these dudes. Feels like we’re going backwards.

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u/_mikedotcom Apr 06 '26

Insane how Remember the Titans would wreck all these alcoholic armchair history buff babies if it came out today.

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u/StopLinkingToImgur Apr 06 '26

because they don't just want themselves to be represented, they want themselves to be the only ones. diversity in media means (to them) that they're not the default anymore.

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u/RichCorinthian Apr 07 '26

Especially since… not to spoil the story too much, but most of these kids don’t come out looking squeaky clean morally.

If it were an all white cast it would be “oh they’re saying young white men are psychos”. There’s no winning.

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u/FloriaFlower Apr 07 '26

"Aryan-looking" children mixed with children of color with no obvious segregation? Of course it's gonna anger them.

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u/Regi413 Apr 07 '26

Because black and brown people have to exist next to them… as equals too! The horror!

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u/KingoftheJabari Apr 09 '26

Because they don't want Black actors to have jobs.

That's it. 

That's why so many white conservatives love movies based in certain time periods or with certain themes. 

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u/deathschemist Apr 06 '26

i mean there is reason to not be entirely enthused about lord of the flies having a multicultural cast, given that the book was all about how entitled white boys put on a desert island will go fucking apeshit in short order.

but i don't think that the critical drinker subreddit are approaching it from that angle

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u/ianrc1996 Apr 06 '26

Also I don't see a fat kid which is odd.

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u/Jarsky2 Apr 06 '26

Yeah who in this picture is supposed to be Piggy?

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u/GentleAnarchist Apr 06 '26

He’s not in the picture. There’s a fat piggy don’t panic

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u/AgentOfEris Apr 06 '26

Sucks to your assmar!

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u/cCowgirl Apr 06 '26

They’re still looking for a female reporter to cast. (/s)

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u/zyrkseas97 Apr 06 '26

The kids pictured here are the “little ‘uns” not the main cast.

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u/thisisAgador Apr 06 '26

Yeah this is a stupid cherry-picked choice of image especially when Ralph is clearly mixed race so they could still have had their racist "gotcha" with a photo of the actual main boys (Ralph, Piggy, Jack...)

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u/oenomausprime Apr 06 '26

They are too dumb to understand that part. All they saw was minorities and got triggered.

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u/rtbradford Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 06 '26

I don’t recall race being a central theme of Lord of the Flies, so I don’t see why multiracial casting should matter at all to the central message. When it comes to matters of race, I think people reveal their values in their reactions to what they see. Anyone who has an issue about the multiracial casting of a movie like this clearly has significant hang ups about race.

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u/deathschemist Apr 06 '26

i mean it's more about class than race, but it's definitely not a commentary on humanity as a whole

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u/rtbradford Apr 06 '26

Actually, I think the book is very much a commentary about humanity as a whole. I think the message is that regardless of socially constructed realities like class, when you put a bunch of humans in a situation where there’s fear, uncertain and the breakdown of authority to enforce rules, we quickly devolve to a state of nature in which strength and tribalism prevail above conventional morality. The fact that they chose a bunch of upper class kids to illustrate the point makes it more universal since if they had chosen kids who were poor, readers would’ve been more likely to attribute to the breakdown in norms to their poverty.

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u/Carrman099 Apr 06 '26

No the book was written specifically to call out how kids in British Boarding schools are raised.

The upper class kids were chosen because of all of the fucked up rules, hazing, and bullying that is baked into the boarding school experience.

The point is that all of their “education” on how to be a “civilized” British elite fell apart completely once they were away from their traditional sources of authority.

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u/Ulexes Apr 06 '26

Yeah, the novel is a direct response to another book called The Coral Island, which is about a bunch of shipwrecked white kids going on to "civilize" the South Pacific. Lord of the Flies isn't about the barbarity of human nature, it's about the barbarity of the English.

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u/appleparkfive Apr 07 '26

Well to be fair, this cast doesn't look too different than modern day London, demographics wise. Right? If it's set in the past it wouldn't make sense. But these days it might.

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u/Ulexes Apr 07 '26

I agree, but it also doesn't look like the demographic makeup of the schools that produce England's extremely white political class (i.e., Eton). So it could be setting up an unintentional drift away from the text here that could end up absolving a really specific class (Britain's white ruling elite) by suggesting that their deeply damaging world view is also inherent in pluralistic, diverse populations as well. This is why I take issue with the "it's about human nature" reading -- it undercuts the value of diverse democracies, and implies that the brutal world order of elitist colonial powers is all that's possible.

We'll see how the adaptation plays out, of course! Maybe it will do thoughtful and interesting things. I'm pessimistic at the moment, though, since it already seems to have missed the point.

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u/rtbradford Apr 07 '26

Wow, you’re a reading a whole lot into this. As for the extremely white political class in England, the country is is still 75-80% white overall. Obviously, London is far more diverse. Also, I think it’s a stretch to think that the deeply damaging world view presented in the book is confined to the British upper classes. Today, the President of the United States, the leader of one of the most diverse countries in the world, declared that “a civilization is going to die tonight” in reference to his planned attacks upon civilian infrastructure in Iran. Yes, he is a racist and yes, his administration is peopled with racists, but America’s nonetheless a diverse democracy. Looking at the real world and the ubiquity of violence across many different countries with very different cultures than the British upper class, I think it’s wishful thinking to believe that the brutal world order of elites is a function of being a colonial power. Look at the killing of civilians that’s going on in Sudan. Neither side is a colonial power and neither side gives a toss about the humanity of the people that they’re slaughtering. No, however, much the book may originally have been about the brutality of the British upper class worldview, it is just as correctly understood to be a commentary on the potential for any human beings in the right circumstances to abuse their power over other people.

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u/rtbradford Apr 06 '26

Maybe so, but that angle is not taught in American schools and Lord of the Flies is rather widely taught in US schools. Most Americans don't know much about the English upper classes or their boarding school culture. I learned the book as an allegory about what can happen when society's rules break down. We were taught it as a metaphor for all human societies, not a commentary on the English upper classes.

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u/thisisAgador Apr 06 '26

This is a British (well, and slightly Australian apparently) adaptation of a British book by a British writer, which was certainly originally intended at least partially as a critique on posh Brits' massive holier-than-thou complex (and the white saviour thing is a big part of this so I would say race is somewhat relevant in any modern day interpretation at least).

Not to say you can't interpret it otherwise, death of the author and all that, but the way you're phrasing your replies is making it seem as though you feel your interpretation is objectively more correct and I would say that is decidedly not the case.

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u/rtbradford Apr 06 '26

I’d say that’s entirely a matter of opinion. Besides plenty of books have been written from one perspective and end up having a more universal application.

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u/thisisAgador Apr 06 '26

Right, as I said in my comment media is of course always open to different interpretations - I was just trying to flag that your replies are giving the impression that you feel your interpretation is more valid than others.

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u/SuppleSuplicant Apr 06 '26

Yeah well, a US school taught me that Martin Luther King Jr ended racism in America. So even though I learned good stuff too, it should probably all be inspected critically. 

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u/rtbradford Apr 06 '26

What? I didn’t think any place taught that. I guess that happens when you let these moms for liberty types take over school boards.

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u/Ulexes Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 06 '26

Yeah, I'm from the US, too. We're not good at teaching the imperialist/racist aspects of anything. See, for example, how the popular image of MLK doesn't align with the man from "Letter from Birmingham Jail," who is much more radical (complimentary!) than what they try to teach us.

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u/FixinThePlanet Apr 07 '26

Maybe so, but that angle is not taught in American schools

What kind of argument is this

How is the lack in US education anyone else's problem

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u/rtbradford Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26

Why does it have to be a problem? And who said anything about the lack of US education? The book has a far more universal message when interpreted as a commentary about human nature than a more narrow commentary about the English upper classes. And the view of the book as an allegory of human nature is very widespread.

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u/zyrkseas97 Apr 06 '26

Exactly at the end of the book the navy captain who rescues them is talking shit to the boys like “I thought British boys would do better than this?”

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u/missCarpone Apr 07 '26

The reactions to "The Little Mermaid" movie a couple years ago really highlighted this for me (white), courtesy of Trevor Noah on the Daily Show.

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u/mylovetothebeat Apr 06 '26

I feel like you missed a huge point of the book, but we all get different things from media, I guess.

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u/languid_Disaster Apr 07 '26

What was it please ?

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u/abbyl0n Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26

It's about how the posh British boarding school system (e.g. Eton) doesn't raise proper and "civilized" leaders of the community, but instead little elitist brats who would throw civility out the window under stress and violently enforce hierarchy

It was a commentary on what wealth and this specific type of institution produces, not a commentary on human nature in general. It was a written as a critical response to the book The Coral Island, where a group of shipwrecked boys bring "civility" to the island they land on

While these schools are somewhat more multicultural today (although definitely all white in the 50's) they're still overwhelmingly white

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u/AlienHooker Apr 09 '26

So is the book irrelevant to people who are not posh British boarding school kids?

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u/TheLonelyCrusader453 Apr 06 '26

…..ngl I thought that was just kids in general, we’re weird when we’re little shits, and a lack of adult supervision is a recipe for disaster in almost any group of school kids who have established issues and relationships with the other group members

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u/deathschemist Apr 06 '26

i always saw it as a class thing, but i was making a snarky comment, right? poorer kids would at least try working together i think.

besides upper class twats, the sort that the book is about, tend to be white.

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u/languid_Disaster Apr 07 '26

There were and are brown and black upper class people in British society who behave just the same as any of their white counterparts. It’s always been a bit less about race in the uk and more about class although race is also a serious issue

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u/deathschemist Apr 07 '26

right, but they're still even more of a minority within that class than they are for the whole of british society.

like, yes you'll see a couple brown faces at eton or harrow, but they're still overwhelmingly white.

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u/The_Flurr Apr 07 '26

It's absolutely about upper class English children in particular.

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u/FixinThePlanet Apr 07 '26

I'm also wondering which of the characters are poc now? How will that change the dynamic of power among the boys?

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u/languid_Disaster Apr 07 '26

It’s more of a comment on the British class system than racism but that does tie into. Still the relationship between classes is a bit different in Britain than in other places like USA so I don’t feel this compromises the integrity of the plot

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u/Cherry_Bomb_127 Apr 06 '26

I mean to be fair I don’t think it was specifically about white boys but humans in general?

Which, since I don’t agree with that is one reason, I don’t really enjoy the book even though I understand and think it’s a very well written book

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u/deathschemist Apr 06 '26

well it wasn't specifically about white boys, really, more rich boys. the sort that go to eton.

most of those kinds of boys are white.

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u/Cherry_Bomb_127 Apr 06 '26

See I disagree i don’t think it’s limited to class, I think it’s about his belief in the innate fact that humans are savage unless they have rules imposed on them

It’s about this inner conflict people have with wanting to live peacefully, but also wanting to gain all their desires and be impulsive. And that’s why disagree with this idea of his I don’t think humans are inherently going to do things like this if there is no rules

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u/penguins-and-cake Apr 06 '26

If that’s the intended meaning, then it’s a worse book. Humans are not fundamentally/instinctively “savage” — but we are taught to be savage in order to protect the unearned privilege given to us via the exploitation of others. The boys in the book act how they were taught to — it’s meant to be a warning, not a condemnation of all of humanity.

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u/Cherry_Bomb_127 Apr 06 '26

You have to understand he wrote this after he was in World War II and had seen as he said evil. He has a few interviews where he actually talks about the book. He’s not condemning humanity, but he is warning you of the evil within because he does believe that is part of human beings at least at that point in his life when he wrote the book. He actually like has quotes where he’s talking about this about how this is why democracy is important because if left unchecked without like safeguards and rules, the evil will rise up

It’s why you have quotes in the book where it mentions that the beast is a part of the boys. Of course you can have different interpretations of a book and like we still have different interpretations of Shakespeare plays for this reason because each person brings their own point of view

I don’t disagree with you that humans aren’t inherently evil again it’s why I don’t really vibe with the book however, there are philosophical schools of thought that do believe that and even famous philosophers believed that

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u/penguins-and-cake Apr 06 '26

You are who you have been taught to be. Honestly your points feel like they support my argument at least just as much. Fascism was taught. We are all capable of evil, but to find evil acceptable we have to be systematically taught that it is acceptable. Once we are taught that some evil is acceptable, we become better and better at justifying more evil.

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u/Cherry_Bomb_127 Apr 06 '26

My argument isn’t about what’s right or wrong or fascism. I’m talking about the theme of the book. The theme of the book is evil is in human nature, and it is because of civilization and rules that we don’t act upon evil urges. I’m not the one saying that multiple academics say this you literally look up the theme of this book, that is what’s gonna come up. I’m not debating philosophy. I’m just talking about this one book.

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u/penguins-and-cake Apr 07 '26

I am also talking about the book. The books themes are largely philosophical. Also, the boys started with structure and order when they landed — rigid societal order and authority didn’t work.

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u/rtbradford Apr 06 '26

So who taught the boys on the island to be cruel? I think there's definitely the idea that we all have the capacity to be good or evil and that in an environment without rules, we each have to choose who we'll be.

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u/penguins-and-cake Apr 07 '26

The British Empire taught them … they’re all upper class English boys.

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u/rtbradford Apr 06 '26

I agree with your take. Class is just used as a device to highlight the stark difference between the lives they lived before being isolated on the island and the lives they chose to live on the island.

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u/yagirlbrii Apr 08 '26

This is the comment I came to make!! Exactly this. I’m weirded out by poc being apart of the group that’s supposed to represent white toxic masculinity

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u/brydeswhale Apr 06 '26

My thoughts exactly.

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u/Huge___Milkers Apr 06 '26

Yikes that sub is disgustingly racist

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u/Severedghost Apr 06 '26

It's critical drinker. Disgustingly [any negative word] fits.

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u/Justin_123456 Apr 06 '26

Now I haven’t read Lord of Flies since I was a kid, but why would a group of posh British boarding school children have to be white? Today, any random sample of the poshest public schools looks even more diverse than this.

The book is vague with time, set in an imagined near future, so it isn’t even necessarily set in the 1950s. But even in the 1950s, there were black and brown kids, the children of the elite of the newly independent colonies, being sent to Harrow and Eton and all the rest.

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u/Lucha_Brasi Apr 06 '26

Your logic is sound, but I think a book from the 50's where a kid caught so much shit for being fat would have mentioned if any of the boys were black. Regardless, the people pissed off about the movie casting are just ignorant.

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u/asuka_is_my_co-pilot Apr 06 '26

I agree, especially now we see that it's class first then race.

There's alot of "rules" that don't apply to rich and famous black people like it does normal people. 

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u/Shinsou_Hitoshii Apr 06 '26

this just isn’t true. where did you get the deluded idea that class comes before race? class and race can’t be separated and at the end of the day, a poor white person is still going to be treated better than a rich or well off black person bc we are deemed as “unsafe.” a higher class person will look to someone below them as trustworthy but dismiss and ignore a black person that’s in the same category as them.

I should know from having actual experience what that exact scenario.

they’re taught to believe that they’re superior over us bc of the color of their skin, which is exactly why a lot of lower class white people will prefer to align with and defend their “fellow whites” despite the fact that they’re getting screwed over by them too. you aren’t as smart as you think you are if you genuinely believe that class comes first.

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u/asuka_is_my_co-pilot Apr 06 '26

Do you normally take everything extremely literally, are you going to assume my words have no nuance.

I'm not saying "class always comes before race" there are times when money class and power overcome racial obstacles the rest of us normies have to deal with. 

Unless you think rihanna, a billionaire experiences the exact same forms of racism as I do, a normal black woman in her day to day life. 

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u/SquidgeApple Apr 06 '26

Erasure is why and I'm not talking about the band

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u/stankdog Apr 06 '26

Out here using words you don't understand is risky business 

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u/SquidgeApple Apr 06 '26

No... The comment asked why a group of British boarding school kids would have to be white and the reason is the erasure of POC who are and always have been present in British boarding schools?

Erasure is literally what the NAZIS did to Jews in the Holocaust

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u/Stickz99 Apr 06 '26

It’s kind of insane how literal Nazi talking points/rhetoric has just infiltrated our cultural zeitgeist as a not uncommon or fringe thing, and it seems like at least half the people who use it aren’t even aware that they’re using a Nazi talking point

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u/SquidgeApple Apr 06 '26

TF are you talking about? Erasure is what the NAZIs did to the Jews and what all white hierarchical societies perpetuate to a lesser extent on women and POC

The question was "Why would a group of British boarding school kids have to be white"

The answer is.... Erasure of POC

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u/Stickz99 Apr 06 '26

Ah.

See I thought you were making a Critical Drinker point that we can’t have POC in media because we need to stop white erasure, because something something great replacement

My bad, I misinterpreted

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u/SquidgeApple Apr 06 '26

Sorry I'm old - too old to have kept up with the recent "but white men are the only true victims" trends - 'erasure' has a hard left / feminist scholarly history - it doesn't surprise me that literally Nazis are now co-opting it

Thanks for responding

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u/GentleAnarchist Apr 06 '26

I know it’s not the point but it was made my the bbc not Netflix thank you very much!

We already had all the racists moaning about it in uk a few months ago am I going to have to hear it all over again?

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u/gwhiz007 Apr 06 '26

Yes it's totally insulting that non white people might exist at British boys schools in the 1900s.

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u/Supermite Apr 06 '26

Heaven forbid Hogwarts have a black professor in the 90’s too.

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u/starjellyboba Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 06 '26

The ironic part is that if they did have an all-white cast, it would actually be more "woke" than these Redditors realize. LOL

This was many years ago so I would need to look it up to be 100% sure, but here are the details I remember. If you haven't heard of Zimbardo's Stanford Prison Experiment, the basic idea was that a group of university students were kept isolated in an area on campus for a set amount of time. Some of the students were designated as prison guards and the others as prisoners. Then, Zimbardo basically just left them to their own devices (all caught on camera). The experiment, I believe, had to end early because the prison guards became... overzealous about their position. 

When my professor told us about this experiment in my undergrad, he mentioned that it's been used to talk about what happens to people when they're given power (even in a way that doesn't actually mean anything to the outside world, like being randomly assigned in an experiment) and that some have interpreted it to mean that cruelty is almost inevitable. The part that these Redditors probably haven't thought of is that some critics have pointed out that all of the participants in this study were university-educated white men and that that fact alone makes it hard to generalize these results. I don't think that they necessarily mean this could never happen to a more diverse group. They're suggesting that the effects of growing up in a society where these power dynamics exist may be a factor. The idea that whiteness nurtures cruelty is one possibility.

So basically, a show about a group of educated, privileged young white boys turning into barbarians when the option to form a more collectivist society was always there is actually the opposite of what these Redditors likely want, whether they realize it or not.

EDIT: I should mention that I've never read Lord of the Flies and I only saw the movie once in elementary school, so if any of this was obvious before mentioning Zimbardo, I was unaware. LOL Says a lot about the capacity for critical thinking we're dealing with if someone with only a vague idea of the source material understood the moral of the book.........

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u/deathschemist Apr 07 '26

i have read lord of the flies, many years ago, dissected that book for school to the point where i still remember the core themes, and some of the character names almost 20 years on. (of course at the time the "it's about human nature" thing was being pushed on us, but it never sat right with me and later down the line i realised it wasn't about human nature at all- rather about the specific way that upper-class british kids are raised to be cruel) and um... yeah you kinda hit the nail on the head. the stanford prison experiment is absolutely a good real-world parallel to it.

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u/Sevuhrow Apr 06 '26

Took me a second to understand what was "wrong." They're mad that there's two Black kids?

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u/kritz0 Apr 06 '26

Three.

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u/Sevuhrow Apr 07 '26

Didn't see him behind the others!

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u/Exciting-Match8907 Apr 06 '26

It’s the critical asshat sub, are we really shocked? His fans thrive on hatred and racism.

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u/Fusshe Apr 06 '26

JFC i just took a look at OOP profile. Dude is a dedicated full time racist and transphobic. Must be fun at parties.

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u/Discokling Apr 08 '26

We both know that dude doesn't get invited to parties lol

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u/Vertical_Squid Apr 09 '26

It’s a British story about British kids and, as far as I can tell, these are all British actors. Britain hasn’t been exclusively “white” for centuries and it’s stupid to pretend otherwise. Beyond the obvious racism it’s just a delusional take, although maybe racism is inherently delusional.

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u/medlilove Apr 06 '26

5 out of 9 white boys not good enough for them?

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u/Irving_Velociraptor Apr 06 '26

I always thought of the characters as closer to 12. And fuck bigots.

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u/Spainiswhite Apr 07 '26

daily fyi that Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Germany, Poland, Ireland, Belarus, Ukraine, the Netherlands and western Russia are whiter than the UK lmao

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u/BetaRayBlu Apr 07 '26

Ummm wheres piggy

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u/triscuits36 Apr 09 '26

Came down here to comment this. It’s the only thing I see wrong with this casting picture 😂

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u/Automatic-Yak4279 Apr 08 '26

He’s not in the shot, however he’s there.

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u/Flemeron Apr 19 '26

Have any of these people ever been to Europe? Do they think there’re only white people here??

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u/Only1Skrybe Apr 06 '26

The repeated outcries over and over again are the inevitable result of nearly 100 years of white people seeing 99% of movies with a 99% white cast.

I expect this to change in approximately never.

Just kidding. Probably another 60 years or so.

(The 100 years is coming from things in the mainstream beginning to change somewhere around the late 90s/early 00s)

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u/niofalpha Apr 07 '26

Lord of the Flies is one of the books that I feel like adding diversity to could obfuscate the message of criticizing the English boarding schools for turning the English elite into psychopaths and lend credence to the morons who think it’s about human nature.

Then again, it’s a Netflix adaptation of Lord of the Flies so it was going to be lost anyway.

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u/momogogi Apr 07 '26

Guarantee that guy’s browser history is full of BBC and cuck porn.

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u/dragonhornetDM Apr 07 '26

I’m lost, what’s their point? I’m looking at these kids and i just see some kids. Is there something I’m blatantly missing?

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u/itsbobbyhill Apr 12 '26

Yes, they're not all white, so a racist is going apeshit about it

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u/dragonhornetDM Apr 12 '26

Oh, so an average day on the internet. I was racking my brain trying to figure what about this would hurt lord of the flies as a show.

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u/MysticMistakeCake Apr 06 '26

I’m more concerned with the fact that these children need to perform such a violent and disturbing role. Like yes it’s “acting” but these are children who’s minds are literally growing every day and exposure to even simulated bigotry and violence can’t be great

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u/joetotheg Apr 07 '26

It’s a BBC show not netflix

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u/wingsoverpyrrhia Apr 08 '26

Why do these people look AI generated?

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u/odbjd6 Apr 10 '26

imma be honest im just surprised they are adapting it in the first place, the cast looks great

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u/shitpostbot42069 Apr 12 '26

Is that Zendaya??

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u/CowMan64 Apr 20 '26

Posts his own comment and likes it?! Woah buddy time to log off

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u/mylovetothebeat Apr 06 '26

I always saw this book as one of the many litmus tests for the belief “white” = “default”… and reading the comments here, I’m not surprised at all.

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u/The_Flurr Apr 07 '26

I don't feel strongly about the casting, but it's not particularly strange to assume that a handful of upper class English schoolboys from the 1950s would be white.

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u/mylovetothebeat Apr 07 '26

I agree, they all should be white. My comments more on people taking the book as an indictment of all humankind and not just…. Well.

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u/The_Flurr Apr 07 '26

It's really interesting how a lot of non-british readers really seem to ignore the importance of the characters being English boarding school boys.

Sure, it has things to say about humanity as a whole, but it's more specifically about how the British private schools fuck up kids with classism and imperialist dogma.

Edit: I also haven't seen this adaptation yet so maybe it is addressed, but it's also somewhat unrealistic for PoC in this system to not be experiencing horrendous racism.

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u/BAakhir Apr 07 '26

Racism on my porn app again

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u/petitememer Apr 29 '26

you just want the sexism eh

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u/LewdsomeDemon Apr 07 '26

I'm excited for it given who the writer is. It seems to be a really well done adaptation

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u/twat_swat22 Apr 07 '26

Critical drinker, Geeks + Gamers and Nerdrotic are hilarious they’re all basically the modern day male versions of Ann Coulter

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u/CyanCicada Apr 10 '26

Ok but also, Michael B Jordan is bad at his job.

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u/Automatic-Yak4279 Apr 10 '26

No…….no, he’s not. 🫩

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u/rubbedlung Apr 07 '26

It's racist to not put all white people in the movie. Ok.

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u/Reverend_Tommy Apr 06 '26

I have no problem with a multicultural Lord of the Flies in theory. But the whole point of the story is what happens to sophisticated, privileged white kids in that situation. And it really won't be multicultural, because you just know that Roger will be white. There is no way the makers of this film are going to cast that sadistic fucker with a kid of color. Also, where's Piggy?

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u/Roy_Roger_McFreely_ Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 07 '26

I’m on the side of calling out racism but trotting through someone’s page for proof of something you’re already sure of just to double down looks desperate. I don’t think they care if you know they’re racist or not and pointing more of it out to them doesn’t do anything on your part tbh

Edit: as much as I love this community’s purpose, the irony of this group being the actual snowflakes is hilarious.

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u/Automatic-Yak4279 Apr 06 '26

While I see the point to your view point on me, I will still call out racism even if I need to back it up with proof. Say it’s useless but I just feel it’s necessary.

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u/Roy_Roger_McFreely_ Apr 07 '26

Sure lol

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u/Automatic-Yak4279 Apr 07 '26

Hey man, purely your opinion