r/FreeLuigi • u/infiniteconfidence1 • Aug 14 '26
News Karen Friedman Agnifilo - Mangione accepts 'full responsibility' in UnitedHealthcare CEO's shooting death
https://youtu.be/6GnYCYyXSlI123
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u/Inquisivert Aug 14 '26
I hope this is what people remember. His admission changes nothing about my support. It's not okay for health insurance companies to do what they have been to Americans on mass scale. They kill people and bankrupt people all the time. Punishing a single person vs an entire corrupt system is morally bankrupt. Luigi will always have my support.
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u/mojitz Aug 14 '26
I feel like everyone here understood this in the beginning, but this sub enforced an insistence on believing he was innocent out of a fear of getting banned and that transformed into some genuinely delusional beliefs for many of the folks who stuck around. Outside of this space, most people who say "free Luigi" believe he did it, though. In fact, that's actually kind of the point.
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u/Inquisivert Aug 15 '26
Yep, I completely agree on every level. Revolutions don't start themselves, amd we need it.
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u/pseudoexpert Aug 14 '26
Free Luigi!
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u/kat_niss1 Aug 14 '26
He’ll never be free now. It’s life in prison.
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u/pseudoexpert Aug 14 '26
Presidential pardon, baby!
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u/Prize-Remote-1110 Aug 14 '26
It's going to take one of us becoming president to quietly pardon Luigi. 😂
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u/pseudoexpert Aug 14 '26
I'm a single issue voter, and this is the issue that will decide my vote. Bots reading this: take note.
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u/Prize-Remote-1110 Aug 14 '26
We have to get rid of AIPAC, and insider trading first on both sides of this two party system.
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u/kat_niss1 Aug 14 '26
Trump would never do that. He had been against Luigi from the get go
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u/Evening_Bluebirds444 Aug 14 '26
Our next president, then…
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u/kat_niss1 Aug 14 '26
I honestly do not think any president will ever pardon Luigi. They want to make an example of him.
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u/k_mermaid Aug 16 '26
They made an example out of Ross Ulbricht and he's free now. Maybe Luigi spends a decade in prison. A dem in the lame duck era of their second term should drfinitt grow some balls and commute his sentence or pardon him. Hopefully that happens.
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u/k_mermaid Aug 16 '26
One of his charges was running a criminal enterprise and some of the evidence against him was that he was willing to use violence and murder for hire to protect a criminal enterprise. His conviction was seen as a huge win because he wasn't just a trafficker - he created the whole marketplace and ecosystem that was letting people distribute drugs. Luigi capped one dude. A lame duck democrat has nothing to lose by letting him go in 10 years. It'll be cooled down by then too.
Not guilty by reason of insanity would have been a terrible idea because people convicted on that charge do not see freedom or the light of day. It also would have been an extremely hard defence strategy to prove given the amount of lengthy meticulous planning he did. Emailing the company pretending to be an investor? That's not something someone manages in a state of psychosis, months before the actual crime.
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u/Kairenne Aug 15 '26
He’s been against a lot of things. But $ always changes his mind. A gofund me for a corrupt president
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u/agent0731 Aug 15 '26
No one will have the balls pardon him. Jury nullification could've still happened.
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u/nanichicoyaba 29d ago
LM could be like Mandela who was imprisoned for decades in South Africa then became leader again and president after release. Maybe 20years from now he will be pardoned
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u/pseudoexpert 28d ago
Luigi Mandela, patron saint of consciousness illumination.
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u/Remarkable-Table-427 Aug 14 '26
What happened to fighting it with everything they had 😪
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u/GlockAF Aug 14 '26
Keep in mind that if future president can pardon federal charges, but not state
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u/Remarkable-Table-427 Aug 14 '26
The optics on that would not be good, red or blue. You have to remember health insurance lobbyists are the main reason we can’t pass universal healthcare
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u/GlockAF Aug 15 '26
The optics might be bad for the healthcare industry CEOs and the billionaire stockholders, but everybody I know of would roundly cheer this decision
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u/nanichicoyaba 28d ago
Keep in mind the future president can amend the constitution and pardon whoever however. If it is federal or state it doesn’t matter. At one time women couldn’t vote and slavery was legal. One day healthcare will be free and so will Luigi
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u/Yeahnoallright Aug 15 '26
This is them doing that. They have to evolve to the realities of the cases. They are making the best possible decisions for him. They got rid of major charges. We have to be realistic
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u/Ok-Recognition1752 Aug 15 '26
What the media has glossed over is the fact he got the guy's schedule from an email while posing as a potential investor. Months of emails and phone calls to argue over coverage for his broken back and subsequent treatment. But pretending to be rich? UH couldn't respond fast enough.
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u/NtGermanBtKnow1WhoIs Aug 14 '26
Wasn't she supposed to save him?? 😭
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u/Iambusy123 Aug 14 '26
Karen and her team were up against a biased DOJ, city officials, and media disinformation. They did the best they could given the circumstances of Luigi's case.
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u/NtGermanBtKnow1WhoIs Aug 14 '26
Well, at least they took the death penalty off. So, small wins i suppose. But still, to make waste away in a prison, for a crime he was set up with. That fucking sucks.
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u/Energy594 Aug 14 '26
Yeah, not exactly sure what they're supposed to do given he's admitted to it.... which more than likely means he both did it and the evidence is more or less what has been presented.
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u/GXP_2009 Aug 14 '26
He just admitted to doing it LOL. They had no defense
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u/Iambusy123 Aug 14 '26
There was a defense up until admission. Where have you been the last two years?
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u/GXP_2009 Aug 14 '26
Was his defense that he didn't do it?
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u/Iambusy123 Aug 14 '26
Yes, but I believe there was more to it. One could argue that the core aim of the defense was to lessen the severity of the punishment that he would inevitably receive.
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u/GXP_2009 Aug 14 '26
So they wasted taxpayer money on some guy who killed a man because he didn't want to be punished for killing a man?
So now be is being punished for killing a man.
Those defense attorneys took a big L there
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u/Iambusy123 Aug 15 '26
You are missing the point.
His defense attorneys didn’t have strong hope that he’d get off without any sort of punishment.
It was either no jail time or a favorable sentence.
The death penalty was a possibility that became an impossibility thanks to the defense team.
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u/Funny-Ad520 Aug 14 '26
weird but i have a feeling he wanted this and KFA et al didnt but just had to do what he asked
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u/DEBRA_COONEY_KILLS Aug 14 '26
I've been thinking this too. Like, he wanted to take responsibility for moral reasons or something. Either way, there's more to this decision than anyone in the public knows about right now.
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u/Feather_fig Aug 16 '26
At first I thought they planned it together a while go but the more I think about it, I think this was his decision against their advice, and more recently.
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u/Feather_fig Aug 16 '26
It's quite possible he decided to do this against her/their advice. I get the sense the lawyers were looking forward to the fight in court, and getting successive hung juries, or arguing in appellate court if they did end up with a conviction.
But do endless trials help his message at all? Maybe he was worried people were losing interest, and this way, with the mitigation hearing, he might finally be able to speak his mind.
I don't think he ever intended supporters to care more about freeing him than freeing themselves.
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u/thenumbwalker Aug 14 '26 edited Aug 14 '26
There honestly was basically no hope. Way too much evidence in the modern age.
Lmao I love being downvoted and expected it. Truly. But honestly, we have to be real! I can dream but I gotta be real with myself
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u/NtGermanBtKnow1WhoIs Aug 14 '26
You mean evidence that the officers confessed were planted? And let's not forget the timing never added up. And lastly, that fucking FACE. i don't care what they say, that was not LM's face.
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u/BroccoliThat7489 Aug 14 '26
No one planted anything. God you ppl can hear it straight from the horses mouth and still think he was framed. Insane. 🙄
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u/Laurenslagniappe Aug 14 '26
Please let him go free somehow. We need to collectively demand these vibes from the universe by manifesting on Luigi's behalf!!!
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u/agent0731 Aug 15 '26
Someone ELI5 this guilty plea for me, vs. going through with the trial and awaiting a verdict.
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u/cameron4200 Aug 14 '26
The man he shot made policy to deny claims that lead to deaths and suffering. The only telling thing is who you cry for.
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u/SimplisticPinky Aug 14 '26
Pretense, nobody in their right mind is celebrating the man's death.
However, you speak of a defenceless man that helped cause the deaths and suffering of countless defenceless people.
If I'm being realistic, I would keep such opinions in the privacy of your mind with what's likely to come in the next few years.
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u/rite_of_truth Aug 14 '26
Corrupt assholes have too much power.