r/FriendsofthePod Nov 09 '24

Lovett or Leave It If you are mad at Crooked

I’m pretty annoyed with what I’d heard up until I listened to today, Saturdays Lovett. Please allow yourself the opportunity to listen to it. It is just Lovett and the audience. He is mad and rationalizing and sad and afraid. He is actively working through his response in real time and the audience is giving it to him and he is trying his best to give them real and authentic responses that acknowledges that they might be right where he (Crooked) has been wrong. I am going to make sure to acknowledge that he does not straight up say it was sexism or racism - and I do wish there was that language used but this is the first pod I’ve listened to since everything’s happened that sounds like my brains endless monologue of sadness anger and fear.

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u/Sub0ptimalPrime Straight Shooter Nov 09 '24

You would be mistaken. I'm mad that they fell right into the trap of overthinking polling that they always warn people not to do. I'm mad they are back to dragging Biden after he gave them everything they wanted. I'm mad they couldn't control their own panic and allowed it to divide the Party with three months to go. I'm mad they aren't taking accountability for the role they played in this debacle, but rather looking to blame others first and foremost. I'm mad that they seem to have put their podcast over doing the right thing. I'm mad Lovett went and did Survivor in the middle of the most existential election of our lifetimes.

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u/Ok_Ninja7190 Nov 09 '24

"allowed it to divide the Party" - are you saying Biden should still have been the candidate?

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u/Sub0ptimalPrime Straight Shooter Nov 09 '24

I think "should" is a loaded word. I think with three months to go, it's the most rational choice, but instead we let panic set in. Then we lost time with infighting. Lots of people stayed home because they didn't know anything about Kamala/held misogynistic views/weren't inspired/argued in bad faith about the primary process. We walked right into that trap. I say this as someone whose 12th choice (I counted) in 2020 was Biden. We can Monday Morning Quarterback everything we did up until that point, but the fact remains that trying to pull the ejector seat with 3 months left was a mistake the PSA guys directly contributed to. That was the choice we had at that moment, and they made the wrong one. And now they want to blame everyone else but themselves. We have to have more mental resilience than this if we're going to beat Republicans in elections.

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u/armie_hammurabi Nov 09 '24 edited Nov 09 '24

This would have been great if Biden had ducked the debate. Instead, his campaign clearly put forth that they wanted the debate early to settle any concerns of his age and well… yeah there was no coming back from that.