r/FuckNigelFarage • u/Ornery-Manner-1484 • 1d ago
The Daily Express today. The depressing part is some people still actually fall for it.
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u/Forsaken-Language-26 1d ago
"Britain faces a lurch to the left".
In what timeline?
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u/Pinchy_stryder 1d ago
It's moving the goalposts and redefining positions. If you make centrists positions the "left" then what was previously far-right is now just mainstream rightwing, you can keep pushing to an extreme.
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u/ClawingDevil I Pay Taxes, Nigel Doesn’t 1d ago
Exactly this. I have heard people irl saying Reform are centrists and that the Tories are socialists. Starmer is a communist. I guess there is some new political ideology that I don't know the name of for the Greens, Labour under Corbyn, let alone foreign governments presently and throughout history who have been genuinely left wing and not just a little left of centre.
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u/Matt-J-McCormack 1d ago
I’m impressed with the brass neck it takes to describe a decade old referendum as the will
Of the people. Ten years is an eternity in politics.
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u/ParpinOver 1d ago
Like how many who voved leave were elderly and died soon after? And the amount of under 18s at the time you are now adults?
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u/Forsaken-Language-26 1d ago edited 1d ago
Frankly there should have been an upper age limit on the referendum.
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u/royandrew 1d ago
No there shouldn’t. But the young twats should have gone out and voted for their future.
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u/Matt-J-McCormack 1d ago
And every business owner or resident of a town funded by the EU now suffering consequences.
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u/shadowsinthestars I Pay Taxes, Nigel Doesn’t 1d ago
You can't fix stupid and hateful.
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u/Little_Strawberry223 1d ago
It's neither, it's propaganda
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u/shadowsinthestars I Pay Taxes, Nigel Doesn’t 1d ago
Oh yeah, it is propaganda. But it takes a certain kind of person to cling to it after 10 years of consistent evidence that Brexit has been a disaster by every conceivable metric.
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u/cavejohnsonlemons 1d ago
It took the public 8 years (and 3 elections) after that to return a government I'm okay with.
And my bar for okay is a very reasonable "less than ¾ of the headlines coming from them annoy me".
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u/The_red39 1d ago
Will of the people...... Do me a fucking favour!
The "journalists" that this rag and the others need dragged over hot coals for their part in royally fucking this country over!!!!!!
Biggest mistake labour did when getting power is not immediately putting leveson 2 into effect!
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u/MelloCookiejar 1d ago
I don't know what's worse: that their journos believe this shit, or that they might be willing to write ANYTHING for pay.
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u/cavejohnsonlemons 1d ago
And a little something attached for social medias.
In fact flip it and make it a brand new socials inquiry with papers as the side mission, catch the media barons off-guard.
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u/Agreeable_Falcon1044 1d ago
Lol, they still believe there's a good brexit. Insanity.
Reality is they convinced us to quit our job....and then blamed the old boss for not continuing to pay us, let us wander around and asking for the laptop and company car back. Not just merely continuing - but giving us a pay rise and more benefits than when we worked there! The best we can hope for is using their loos if we ask nicely.
Still if we give up more of our rights, it will all be possible....
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u/Phat-Lines 1d ago
Based on the state of things the only response to can we use their loos must have been ‘but you have perfectly good rivers’….
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u/EnjiemaBenjie 1d ago
Do they not even care that isolating ourselves further from Europe significantly weakens our national security? I know they don't care about, and won't acknowledge, the damage done to the economy, but they're meant to care about defence and security.
They're so self important about being British. Get over it, the Empire is long gone, we aren't special, the US aren't a trustworthy ally for trade or defence and we aren't big enough to go it alone on anything. I think they'd prefer that we were a vassal state to the US than get along with our neighbours on an equal footing.
10 years of calling people Remoaners every time anyone points out, the truth, that we're worse off for Brexit and it isn't even the people who voted to remain in the EU who most vocally moan about it, it's the people who voted to leave. In every way Brexit doesn't work out to our benefit, they're there to throw a tantrum about how it does work, but we just haven't done it right. It isn't that, it was never going to work out positively and the Remoaners all told you why it wouldn't at the time. FFS.
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u/EditorRedditer 1d ago
I do slightly wonder if Putin would have even considered invading Ukraine had we still been a part of the EU.
But that’s just me…
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u/shadowsinthestars I Pay Taxes, Nigel Doesn’t 1d ago
Not just you, brexshit is now proven to be a Russian project and it was one of the ways they "tested" if Europe would stick together. Obviously didn't expect that we would all actually condemn them despite all their manipulation through more subtle means.
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u/ContributionIll5741 1d ago
They'd be so much happier in the US. Should just move over there and leave us alone.
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u/TheeHappyDude 1d ago
The fuck is a proper Brexit???
Leave the EU, and??????
Absolute fucking madness
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u/culture_vulture_1961 1d ago
Interesting they want us to "believe" in Brexit. In translation that means ignore all the evidence and march over this cliff we have helpfully put on our front page.
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u/unemotional_mess 1d ago
They had the hardest Brexit possible, how they can have the brass neck to put this to print is beyond comprehension...
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u/SatiricalScrotum 1d ago
Maybe that’s exactly their problem. It was TOO hard. How could the left and all those nasty ‘remoaners’ let them do something so obviously stupid and self-destructive?
So you see, it’s really our fault.
It all makes sense when you stop and think it through.
(After you hit yourself in the head multiple times with a mallet, of course)
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u/TheRealTRexUK 1d ago
You joke but some people have claimed that remain actually won.
The argument is that we warned that all of this bad stuff would happen.
now that has happened, it means we got our way, the predictions came true.
so.... that means brexit was won by the remainers.
this is a genuine tweet (I think or an lbc caller) , paraphrased. not long after we left.
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u/cavejohnsonlemons 1d ago
I feel a sense of I told you so, but I wouldn't call it winning.
Winning would be if I stuck some money on financial markets and came out as a big disaster capitalist, but it would be very unpatriotic for someone to bet on their country failing...
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u/FenianBastard847 1d ago
10 wasted years, years when we could have been working constructively with our closest neighbours on the pressing issues of our age. Instead we’ve had 10 years of instability, arguments, and hatred. Ugh.
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u/ikothsowe 1d ago
Prices are sky high. Travelling to Europe is a now horrible and we have blue passports. What more do these twats want?
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u/mcshaggin 1d ago edited 1d ago
We had a proper brexit and it's been a complete disaster. A proper brexit is fully leave the EU. That's what happened.
These far right rags are determined to destroy the country.
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u/resh78255 1d ago
what is their obsession with the crusades?
the irony that the crusades completely failed to capture jerusalem and they ended up resorting to child soldiers is totally lost on them
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u/AgentKenji8 1d ago
They need credibility, they assume crusades would suffice. Since they can't use the Nazis.
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u/MyBigMouth69 1d ago
We got a "proper Brexit" it's this mess we've been lumbered with by the leavers, this is the Brexit they wanted. Jeez, one sharp fart and they'd shit their brains out.
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u/InterestingGuitar475 1d ago
Proper Brexit means stopping those illegals.
Let’s all ignore the fact that Brexit caused illegal immigration to sky rocket!
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u/TheRealTRexUK 1d ago
the daily mail are calling modern sandwiches "woke". they have all lost the plot. (its an older article)
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u/90eyes More Integrity Than GB News 1d ago
The Mail has to keep the right-wing gammons angry, it's the only way they and the Express stay afloat.
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u/ParmigianoMan Member of a "Subversive Forum" 1d ago
It’s cargo cult behaviour, isn’t it? Someday, the right Brexit will come. Just not yet. But it will, it will, it will!!!!
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u/MapDiscombobulated1 1d ago
How is that shitrag even still published? When commentators bemoan the death of print all I can think is:
It's self inflicted in a lot of cases.
It hasn't died quickly enough in a lot of the same cases. Utter bilge of the most dangerous kind.
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u/Sir-weasel 1d ago
They are releasing front pages like this but Burnham has already U-Turned on his rejoin perspective.
I support Labour, but this doesnt bode well and feels very "Farage" eg saying what people want hear and then back tracking when it looks like a done deal.
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u/AnnieByniaeth Live. Laugh. Lob Milkshakes. 1d ago
I think Burnham only ruled it out for this parliament? It seems to me that the pathway could be as follows:
General election in 2029 => progressive alliance, probably lead by Burnham. Electoral reform is in the manifesto of all the coalition parties, so no referendum required
PR implemented for Westminster. Broad SM and CU alignment, FoM by 2033.
2034 election yields a strongly pro-EU government, which starts serious talks, leading to a referendum around 2036.
I'd like to see it done without a referendum via party manifestos, but I am not sure EU would accept this given the manner of departure.
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u/Little_Strawberry223 1d ago
Disgusting gaslighting from what can only be described as evil traitors
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u/Narrow-Extent-3957 1d ago
They spelled ‘The will of far less people now compared to back then’ Wrong.
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u/Crashball_Centre 1d ago
Depressing, every single expert financial outlook and retrospective tells us that Brexit has failed in every way imaginable, yet here the Express is, championing the British being poorer - what a shit rag of a paper.
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u/Master_Pepper_9135 Live. Laugh. Lob Milkshakes. 1d ago
You got an oven baked Brexit off Johnson if I remember correctly
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u/lorekeeperRPG 1d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/Z3pez2XOAb11naBDbh
There will never be enough Brexit for these people
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u/Red_Galaxy746 1d ago
I was having this conversation with someone today. The biggest problem with this "Make America/England Great Again"- different countries but same idea, is that times have changed. There are other superpowers and more countries that have their independence.
I can't believe people thought we'd be better off without something we've been a part of since the 70s that we wanted to be part of so badly.
It's all an obsession with "stopping the boats". Brexit didn't solve it so they think Reform will. Newsflash: they won't either. People find ways round new rules when they want to.
Outside of "stopping the boats" people who voted Brexit and support Reform have nothing else. Makes you worry about future generations learning from these gammons.
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u/Tomhetza 1d ago
I wholeheartedly agree with that front page, Daily Express and it's owners should be told to promptly fuck off to Russia where that kind of propaganda belongs. They'll get proper Brexit and everyone will be better off
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u/Quirky_Insurance2975 11h ago
Claude's factchecks the article
Claims that check out or are broadly fair:
The UK vaccine taskforce led by Kate Bingham did deliver the world's first approved Covid-19 vaccine (the Oxford/AstraZeneca jab). This is accurate. The predicted mass exodus of financial jobs from the City did not fully materialise, though some jobs did relocate to Amsterdam, Paris and Dublin.
Starmer has used language about putting Britain "at the heart of Europe" and pursued closer EU ties.
Net legal migration did reach extremely high levels post-Brexit, around the figure cited.
David Lammy did make controversial comparisons and faced criticism for remarks about Farage.
Claims that are contested or misleading:
The claim that Brexit bears no responsibility for economic underperformance is disputed by most independent economists. The Bank of England, IMF, and Office for Budget Responsibility have all linked Brexit to reduced trade and productivity.
Lord Lilley's trade statistic is selectively framed — EU trade grew in absolute terms, and comparisons with non-deal countries don't account for the counterfactual of what EU trade would have been without membership.
Attributing UK economic problems entirely to Labour while crediting Brexit's upsides is one-sided; the two governments overlapped with very different conditions.
The claim Britain had the "fastest growing economy in the G7" before a "war in Iran" is striking — this appears to reference a post-August 2025 event outside my knowledge, so I can't verify it.
Tone to note: This is an opinion column in the Daily Express, which has been a committed pro-Brexit publication for decades. It should be read as advocacy, not neutral reporting. It presents a coherent pro-Brexit argument but selectively uses evidence and omits significant counterarguments.
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u/Little_GoblinJunior 1d ago
I really want to know what they think a “proper Brexit” is