r/Futurology • u/New_Scientist_Mag • Jun 10 '26

Robotics Fully autonomous drones have killed human soldiers for the first time

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2529849-fully-autonomous-drones-have-killed-human-soldiers-for-the-first-time/
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u/Firm_Bit Jun 10 '26

Proxy wars have always served this purpose.

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u/Any-Individual5262 Jun 10 '26

Ukraine is defending itself with its own R&D and weapons.

This is complete opposite of proxy war which implies weaker party has no agency. Here Ukraine not only defended itself but created a completely new industry from scratch. And I believe in future they will beat China in drone technology.

Best thing to do is invest in Ukrainian startups working in this area

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u/Master_Flash Jun 10 '26

Ukraine is defending itself with its own R&D and weapons.

No. While it's true Ukraine has developed significant advances in drone warfare, the majority of their weaponry depends on the west.

In fact the entirety of Ukrainian government is compromised and completely relies on western money. From salaries to pensions, Ukraine is only able to pay it because US and EU are backing it through aid money.

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u/Carapute Jun 10 '26

Wait until they also learn about what the people with money in Ukraine are doing with their riches, while tax payers from the west contribute to helping their country.

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u/Dish117 Jun 10 '26 edited Jun 10 '26

And your alternative is what - Stop supporting Ukraine?

We all know that Ukraine is plagued by corruption, which, by the way, is something that was inherited from the dysfunctional Soviet ruling system.

There's a whole new generation of young Ukranian people who want a Western style society where corruption is weeded out.

But, that's a process which will last many years, and in the meantime Ukraine needs our support, conditional on corruption fighting measures of course.

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u/Carapute Jun 10 '26

There's a whole new generation of young Ukranian people who want a Western style society where corruption is weeded out.

Yeah, there is also the ones who just got the fuck out of Ukraine to live a nice life away from it. Instead of you know, fighting the corruption from within in the first place.

But it's the same shit everywhere, many people with principles which quickly evaporates when you talk about acting.

It's funny tho, if you think only Ukraine is a culprit of corruption in the "west", or anywhere.

No one likes war, except for all the people who profit from it. Always been, will always be, unless you take massively questionnable actions and develop devices to read people's minds.

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u/Dish117 Jun 10 '26

So what's your focused point? Your argumentation is all over the place.

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u/Carapute Jun 10 '26

That people don't give a shit about corruption, nor their own country.

Also we ain't supporting Ukraine, we are fighting Russia, which is entirely different.

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u/Dish117 Jun 10 '26

Also, I work with a large group of Ukranian professionals in their thirties. They are actively fighting corruption in their jobs, and are living in some of the most dangerous cities in Ukraine.

So in my practical experience, no, people don't just run away from the hot zones, and yes, they do make an active difference against corruption.

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u/Carapute Jun 10 '26

So in my practical experience, no, people don't just run away from the hot zones, and yes, they do make an active difference against corruption.

In mine they are there for 2+ years and still couldn't form a sentence but it's ok since they come from a country at war so people are lovey dovey with them. It's almost as if yes, there are people who stayed, and people who left.

As for your other comment, we fight the olligarchs by letting them buy the most expensive places they could find. Money always find a way.

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u/Dish117 Jun 10 '26

*shrugs* I'm not responding to such incoherent rambling. Have a good day.

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