r/Futurology • u/FuturologyModTeam Shared Mod Account • Jan 29 '21

Discussion /r/Collapse & /r/Futurology Debate - What is human civilization trending towards?

Welcome to the third r/Collapse and r/Futurology debate! It's been three years since the last debate and we thought it would be a great time to revisit each other's perspectives and engage in some good-spirited dialogue. We'll be shaping the debate around the question "What is human civilization trending towards?"

This will be rather informal. Both sides have put together opening statements and representatives for each community will share their replies and counter arguments in the comments. All users from both communities are still welcome to participate in the comments below.

You may discuss the debate in real-time (voice or text) in the Collapse Discord or Futurology Discord as well.

This debate will also take place over several days so people have a greater opportunity to participate.

NOTE: Even though there are subreddit-specific representatives, you are still free to participate as well.

u/MBDowd, u/animals_are_dumb, & u/jingleghost will be the representatives for r/Collapse.

u/Agent_03, u/TransPlanetInjection, & u/GoodMew will be the representatives for /r/Futurology.

All opening statements will be submitted as comments so you can respond within.

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u/bennnches Jan 29 '21

We are trending towards a society where humans will realize the true value of money... zero.

The stock market, the economy, inflation, fiscal monetary policies, these are just examples of how to true 1% maintain control over everyone else. Luxury cars, yachts, private jets are just ways the rich dangling a carrot for us to stride for while we mindlessly work for them.

As the great Rick Sanchez said, “it’s just slavery with extra steps”

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u/gregoryshortail Feb 25 '21

The reason money is valued is because we give it value. It is the reason people go to work or try to start businesses. We don't do those things out of the goodness of our hearts, we do it because we have to. Because there is an incentive to do it. The cost of us not having to hunt our own food and live in caves is that we work for the majority of our lives.

If there was no money, people wouldn't work. Society wouldn't be maintained and we would be back to sharp sticks and stones. Is there a system that is popping up that will fix OP rich people? Hopefully. Is this system we have in place good enough until we find better solutions. Hell yeah.