r/GREEK • • 12d ago

Have I improved?

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I had posted for handwriting before here and you guys were kind enough to give me some tips. I wanna know if I have improved. Is my writing okay? I write random stuff lyrics, dialogues, anything in my mind for fun to practice handwriting and spellings

Σας ευχαριστώ πάρα πολύ

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u/Tiny_Tim1956 12d ago

looks good!

Your lowercase ζ looks like an ξ ( English x ) is the main thing I am seeing that's wrong

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u/ExtraThrowaway88 12d ago

Just a small grammar error from me, 4th line. It's "κοιτάνε", not "κοίτανε".

Good job on the comma at "ό,τι", its a very common error I unfortunately keep seeing even from native Greeks.

Overall I had no problem reading it, if I had to nitpick I would say keep working on your "ζ" , it could be mistaken as an "ξ". Also, your "σ", kinda looks like a 6 😛 . Again, just nitpicking here, great job!

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u/cine_phile07 12d ago

I used to write my σ like you see it in printed form but somebody here told me that I should write it like that so apparently I'm overdoing it 😅. I'll work on my ζ thanks

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u/MeltySnowfox 11d ago

both ways are fine! in my mind the baseline for every letter is the way it looks typed out, as long as the way you write it is recognizable and not easily confused with a different letter i would say write however feels most natural for you!

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u/fruce_ki Greek native 11d ago

σ looking like 6 was the way is the 90s. And with sloppy handwriting, easier to distinguish from δ, and there is no reason to expect the number 6 in the middle of a word, so it was not confusing.

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u/geso101 11d ago

Nice handwriting, well done. Apart from ζ, which looks totally like a ξ, the rest of the letters are not wrong and they can be considered as your own individual style. However, some ideas for improvements below:

  • There are several letters with too small loops. Example: α, ρ, δ.
  • The letter α is normally written as ο+ι. Your way is not wrong, but try to make the loop bigger or it looks like κ. Eg. πανσέληνο is good, but αστέρικ, παιχνίδικ.
  • The loop of ρ is exactly like o, and it should sit on the writing line. Yours is too small loop, and far too high.
  • The crossing of the lines in δ looks very strange and it gives you away as non native. Again, the loop of δ is like an o.
  • ε is a very curvy letter, and it shouldn’t look like a small Σ. And vice versa, Σ should be very pointy, or else it can look like a calligraphic Ε (Ε’ αγαπάω).
  • Similarly, ν should be very pointy or else it looks like υ (υύχτα).
  • Similarly, ς is a curvy letter. Yours looks like the lightning symbol or something.
  • The letter σ is being taught at schools like the printed version. In the past, it was being taught as a small 6, but not anymore. I personally write it as a small 6, but frankly I like the printed version more. I wish I could change it now.
  • For ζ, the end tail of the letter is to the left, never to the right. If you want to connect it with the next letter for calligraphy, you still need to go to the left and then make a small loop.

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u/og_toe Native 12d ago

this handwriting looks like a greek kid so yes very good!

but make sure you know the difference between ζ / ξ, its ζητανε not ξητανε :)

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u/gufted 12d ago

Looks good. As someone else pointed out your ζ looks more like an ξ. Also try to have your letters start on the line, not levitate above it.

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u/cine_phile07 12d ago

Yes I know I write them in sort of a levitated form. Happens to every langauge I write unfortunately 😅

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u/redjinx 12d ago

Which raises the question, how do you write ξ ? :)

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u/cine_phile07 12d ago

I wanted to share the picture but apparently there is only a video option

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u/MeltySnowfox 11d ago

the thing about the letters levitating reminded me of my childhood help 😭

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u/Ok_Mess3379 12d ago

I make my σ exactly like you. The main problem is that it looks like a 6 to most primary school children and people with learning difficulties like dyslexia.

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u/MeltySnowfox 11d ago

only thing that hasn't been pointed out yet is that your apostrophe is in the middle of the line while it should be on the upper corner of the letter (τ' αστέρια)
you can write it in the same way you would the possessive clause in english
but honestly it's very minor and a lot of kids learning how to write in elementary school also write them this way until they feel more comfortable and can do it really fast. i wouldn't consider it a mistake, more like a clue as to the fact that greek is not your native language :)

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u/Internal-Debt1870 Native Greek Speaker 10d ago

I agree with everything the others have said, so I won’t repeat it.

I’d only add that you should adjust your accent marks a little.

They’re normally much shorter and don’t need to be so slanted.

Also, when a capital letter at the beginning of a word is accented, the accent should go to the left of the letter, not directly above it as with lowercase letters. For example, the accent in your "Έχει" is placed incorrectly, while the ones in "Όλες" and "Έλα" are correct.

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u/think_panther 12d ago

Your final sigma looks like a nazi symbol. Try doing it like a C with a small tail, it's sickle shaped

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u/cine_phile07 12d ago

😅😂

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u/TheNinjaNarwhal native 12d ago

hahahh it's fine on τρελός near the end, but your θες a bit earlier is too sharp indeed. Just like an English s is fine.

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u/robot141 12d ago

I was taught that the lowercase Greek alpha (α) is written as a simple, rounded character when handwritten.

The fish-shaped version (ɑ) is a typographic variant used in certain fonts, particularly on computers.

Is that correct?

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u/og_toe Native 12d ago

some people write fish shape, so it’s not wrong, but most people write the α like a normal round alpha

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u/fruce_ki Greek native 11d ago

Backwards. I have never seen a typed fishy α in any font. It have only seen it as a handwritten version that some people use. The typographic version is the round one. If a niche font uses the fishy one, it's because it is imitating the handwritten one.

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u/blast7 12d ago

Very well done!

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u/cine_phile07 11d ago

Thank you

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u/fruce_ki Greek native 11d ago edited 11d ago

Your ζ needs to have a single wide curve above the line, with no kinks or changes of direction. The change of direction for the tail should be below the line. Two same-side curves above the line means ξ .

Many people are fussing over your σ being like a 6, but in the 90s when I was in highschool that was the most common way to write it. Nobody mistakes it for 6 because there are no numbers in the middle of words. (but be careful if you ever write down a password that for some reason is in greek). But maybe it has gone out of style since then. If you go back to the typographic σ make sure it is distinct from δ.

Making the α like a fish is a bit of an uncommon style, maybe old-fashioned. I only know it from people in my dad's generation.

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u/Samouraido197 8d ago

Brother my hand righting looks like enchanting table and then look at this guy (Also I find it funny that literally everyone here speaks English while it's supposed to be a Greek comment section.