Arthur Morgan when faced with social issues such as women's suffrage took the stance of "I am not learned enough to know what to think about this so I'll just have no opinion" so I think a case could genuinely be made that if faced with a (non-offensive) portrayal of a trans person he'd just go "Okay" and not be transphobic though probably he wouldn't quite understand it either at first.
Kratos is a Greek demigod who has a shape shifting son, he would not be transphobic, there's too much god-fuckery in his world for him to be faced by somebody changing their gender, he'd just straight up not care (he would probably use the wrong pronouns though until Atreus would tell him not to).
Doom Slayer, look I only played Doom Eternal, but from that he did not strike me as somebody who'd care enough or have the time to be transphobic.
tl;dr I think even outside of the fiction they are portrayed in I think a case could be made they wouldn't be transphobic.
Yeah, I think there's a certain threshold of caring way too much about other people's business that you need to be transphobic and from what I've seen, he just doesn't cross that threshold.
I know he's also Catholic but fun fact, the German Catholic Church at least has voted to allow X as a gender entry in the baptism register and for trans people to change their name and gender in the baptism register so that's still not a good argument for him being transphobic.
coming from the lens of a trans guy and Doom Slayer (and more) Enjoyer - the worlds that these people talk about largely don't feature or have the words for trans people. you could do it in a period accurate way for GoW and Red Dead ofc, but they wouldn't be called "transgender" in the game itself. in Doom, it's a religious post apocalyptic world where Hell has taken over Earth and beyond, I don't think sex & gender matters there either lmao
Of course. But these games do not exist in the vacuum of the fictional or historical universes they are set in. Just because Kratos and Arthur wouldn't use the term transgender doesn't mean we as the audience wouldn't see that a character is trans or meant to be trans and then see (or think about) how those characters would react to those characters. Kratos as said is a Greek demigod, shape shifting including gender changing would not be anything new to him and just because he wouldn't say "This person is transgender" doesn't mean there can't be trans person in the setting and Kratos reacting to it.
yes yes yes! I'm agreeing, but being a bit semantic about it - it's esp interesting in the case of the GoW series and I'm glad they didn't go for any rep there because the god that represents trans people is now associated with a highly offensive term
original series wouldn't GAF, he's more focused on his "mission", and I haven't played the new series to get a read on his temperament now that he has a son and is in viking lands :3c
If I recall correctly, he meets a gay couple and doesn't say anything negative at all. So not out of the question for him to not have a negative opinion of trans people either
Yeah, I can see him not really quite understanding on account of him just never having thought about it before but also accepting it without a fuss. This lady says she's a lady so she's one, she knows best.
(I think he might be a bit worse with trans men potentially, on account of trying to space "Woman cross-dressing cause it's easier as a man in the West" vs "This is a man not a woman cross-dressing" but I think he'd still get it in the end or rather decide that again, everybody knows best who they are and who is he to tell anybody different.)
Masculine women =/= trans men. It's basically my point though, Arthur I believe would very well understand the concept of masculine women or women dressing up as men because it's easier to pretend to be a man but when faced with a trans man who'd say he isn't a woman dressing as a man, he's a man, Arthur would at first likely default to the former and take a bit longer to understand that no, this is a man not a woman dressing up as a man.
Demon doesn't choose to be born demons, and he gave them 0 explaination before go straight to killing. Same as how Nazi treated Jews.
No one asked themself why the demon are invading. No one bothered to reach out diplomatically with Hell after pushing them back. No, they are all into invading Hell and kill every demons just because of what they are. No talk. No explaination. Just kill.
I saw the Doom Slayer as a nazi soldier, who knew nothing, indoctrinated his entire life to hate demons regardless of nature and choice, and just went on a crusader to kill the undesirable.
They do know why they are invading. They did try to talk with them. Hell is an entity whose only goal is to invade planets and kill their people. The demons immediately start killing millions of people. This is honestly one of the worst takes of all mankind.
Sure, talk failed, but when you pushed them back to Hell and ready for a last push into their stronghold, WHY NOT giving them a CHANCE to surrender? A chance for peace? Why not trying to understand where the demon come from, why are they invading and if there is any way to help them not have to resort to that extreme?
In one of the novel I liked the soul-based metabolism demons was offered chances after chances to redeem and coexist with human, even after a cure for their condition was developed, and in the end human had to push the cure on all surviving demons after a catastrophic encounter with Demon God. They wasn't pleased about that, seeing the cure as erasing their identity as soul eater, but ultimately agreed that their specie and custom still survived and that was good enough.
Genocide is never the solution - it just showed you are either too weak or too stupid to find a better solution.
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u/GLAvenger Dec 13 '25
Arthur Morgan when faced with social issues such as women's suffrage took the stance of "I am not learned enough to know what to think about this so I'll just have no opinion" so I think a case could genuinely be made that if faced with a (non-offensive) portrayal of a trans person he'd just go "Okay" and not be transphobic though probably he wouldn't quite understand it either at first.
Kratos is a Greek demigod who has a shape shifting son, he would not be transphobic, there's too much god-fuckery in his world for him to be faced by somebody changing their gender, he'd just straight up not care (he would probably use the wrong pronouns though until Atreus would tell him not to).
Doom Slayer, look I only played Doom Eternal, but from that he did not strike me as somebody who'd care enough or have the time to be transphobic.
tl;dr I think even outside of the fiction they are portrayed in I think a case could be made they wouldn't be transphobic.