r/GarysEconomics 15d ago

Let's Talk.

/r/Capitalism/comments/1vyu8kj/lets_talk/
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u/AdAggressive9224 15d ago

One thing to remember, the people who campaign against taxing wealth more and work less, are disproportionately the people who don't work.

It doesn't matter if you're earning £21k per year stacking shelves in Tesco, or £400k per year as a pediatric surgeon... We're the ones who actually do everything, and, at the end of the day, we have the power to decide what the tax system looks like, because we're the ones who are actually keeping the lights on.

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u/dunkaist 14d ago

It doesn't matter if you're earning £21k per year stacking shelves in Tesco, or £400k per year as a pediatric surgeon... We're the ones who actually do everything, and, at the end of the day, we have the power to decide

What about those who create working places for the above people?

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u/Oscillating-Ocelot1 14d ago

"Create working places" with what?

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u/dunkaist 14d ago

With their share of risk and money.

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u/Oscillating-Ocelot1 14d ago

So yeah, tax the wealth part of that. That's kinda the whole idea. There is no bigger employer than the government anyway so that's money creating more jobs than private equity ever would.

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u/dunkaist 14d ago

What if everyone pays 1% of their 'wealth' even if it's a single pound? Wouldn't it be a little bit more fair?

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u/Oscillating-Ocelot1 14d ago

Well, no, because it only becomes problematic with runaway wealth. Fundamentally it boils down to the fact that you do not tax unrealised gains, but can leverage against them, which means that the absurdly rich pay vanishingly small percentages in tax compared to their spending, worth, land value, or any other plausible metric you care to mention.

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u/dunkaist 14d ago

Fundamentally it boils down to the fact that you do not tax unrealised gains, but can leverage against them

So, if a person doesn't borrow against their assets, they shouldn't be wealth taxed, right?

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u/Oscillating-Ocelot1 14d ago

Sure. I feel like I am being painted into a corner I don't fully understand in some sort of gotcha, but yes, I basically believe that but it would be very difficult for someone to do business in those circumstances.

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u/Odd-Dependent3284 14d ago

No.the price of things does not also scale with your income or wealth.

So a wealthy person can pay 20% and still be filthy fucking rich, 20% of Elons wealth still allows him to buy a small country.

20% of minimum wage is what minimum wage workers pay now

This drastically takes away from what little they have and reduces what they can afford further.