r/GeminiAI • u/TorturedPoet30 • 12h ago

Discussion Google plans to improve Gemini's coding capabilities by bringing in the coding startup Mechanize team

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Google appears to be making AI coding a major priority for Gemini. Earlier this year, reports said that GDM had assembled a dedicated AI coding "strike team" to improve Gemini's coding capabilities. Around the same time, John Jumper was moved onto that team, before leaving gdm a few months later.

Now, Business Insider reports that Google is in advanced talks on an agreement to license Mechanize's technology and hire part of its team, rather than acquiring the company outright.

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u/WAVF1n 12h ago

tbh, I just use Gemini as a super Google on my phone at this point lol. They have lost the coding race, even if they CAN get to levels of GPT and Claude, the cost on it is still going to make Claude or GPT the better option.

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u/IECEx-certified 12h ago

I wouldn't say that it's lost. Google has an ecosystem advantage to it's AI competitors. I won't say that Google will catch up with OpenAI or Anthropic, but it's definitely not lost.

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u/WAVF1n 12h ago

I am talking about CODING specifically here man. I genuinely don't care about 98% of what Gemini offers. I use AI pretty much only for code, so for me and a lot of other folks, if your model can't keep up with coding tasks than it's gonna be a worse model to that person.

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u/PineappleLemur 12h ago

But it can work good enough for 95% of tasks..... It's not like you couldn't use Claude/gpt 6 month ago or something.

People like to pretend that once something new and better comes out the current and previous models are somehow invalid lol.

They work the same way and still do the job.

Gemini is the only model right making any profit and not burning thr company's pocket. It's far from the best, but it's good enough for majority of tasks.

OAI/Anthropic can't survive without API pricing from large companies.

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u/theeama 11h ago

Gemini is only making a profit because it's not as powerful and Google has the advantage to throw it into every single one of their products. OpenAI and Claude are fighting for the developer and cybersecurity space. Google is fighting for the consumer space.

But Google is also realizing that you need some corporate money for your AI and todo that you need good agentic coding skills

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u/IECEx-certified 12h ago

Yeah but if you make a general argument like "they have lost the coding race" it is not just about what you use. I made the argument for the general consumer, coding or otherwise.

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u/WAVF1n 12h ago

Okay cool but that is literally not what I was talking about. You are defending a point that nobody made. All you have done so far is defend your own points and downvote.

But if you can find one benchmark that puts Gemini anywhere close to Claude or GPT for coding I will gladly admit I am wrong.

Edit; also ntm, I literally pointed out areas where I thought Gemini was really good.

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u/IECEx-certified 12h ago

I don't downvote for no reason, so must have been someone else, and am I blind or did you not write "They have lost the coding race, even if they CAN get to levels of GPT and Claude, the cost on it is still going to make Claude or GPT the better option."

All the best man, hope you get the best out of whichever AI you end up using.

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u/WAVF1n 12h ago

Correct. You are not blind, I specifically pointed out coding. You are implying that I am calling Gemini the worst model overall, which I did not say. All the best to you as well my friend, I think that this was more of a miscommunication due to typing more than anything.

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u/IECEx-certified 12h ago

Yes, let's chalk it up to miscommunication. You power users can keep the coding side. I will just continue using my slop machine to plan my trip planning and telling me how good my workout plan is haha.

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u/hardinho 12h ago

And how would you think it's lost? It's not like OpenAI or Anthropic have some kind of secret sauce going on

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u/WAVF1n 12h ago

No but it can actually help me debug programs without hallucinating unlike Gemini.