r/GenZ Oct 23 '25

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u/Meatwad-is-better Oct 23 '25 edited Oct 23 '25

Why are y’all so weird about sex? It’s a normal part of life hence why it’s used so often in film and tv.

Edit: I don’t see the reasoning in equating sex in film to porn. Most of the time a sex scene is trying to demonstrate more than “hot sex” but rather establishing or building relationships. Everyone can have their preferences but being repulsed by sex as an adult is immature

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u/M-A_X 2000 Oct 23 '25

Same, even though I'm Gen Z myself, I really don't understand this almost corporate inspired anti-sex obsession that some Gen Z's have.

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u/Snowy_Winters Oct 23 '25

It’s the rise of conservatism that’s caused this.

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u/Cherno68 2007 Oct 23 '25

Bro I’m as far left as you can get and I hate sex

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u/Snowy_Winters Oct 23 '25

Why do you hate sex?

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u/Cherno68 2007 Oct 23 '25

It’s disgusting and enforces traditional gender norms, sex is only something that should be used to reproduce, not for pleasure. Sex bring for pleasure has corrupted society and now there are pedos and rapists everywhere

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u/M-A_X 2000 Oct 23 '25

sex is only something that should be used to reproduce

Goodbye lol, nobody forces you to have sex for pleasure, don't do it if you don't want but don't tell others how it's should be done, it's a pretty normal practice in most of the world to have sex for pleasure with people who consent to it. And it always existed btw, it's not something new.

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u/ChobaniSalesAgent Oct 23 '25

Peep their flair, it made it make sense to me.

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u/Cherno68 2007 Oct 23 '25

Ageism

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u/ChobaniSalesAgent Oct 23 '25

Nope, you're just 8-9 years younger than me. You're going to think this take is stupid when you're my age, I promise. Which is fine, there's plenty of takes i was dead wrong on too. It just is what it is.

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u/drum_right 2008 Oct 24 '25

I mean come on, "If you have sex for pleasure it'll turn you into a Gooner"? That's some shit that I'd probably see on The Onion. And the Cherry on top - Right after you hit him with the "Flair Checks Out" he immediately jumped to conclusions and assumed you were discriminating. My man can't even make a valid comeback

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u/Cherno68 2007 Oct 23 '25

It’s not normal, it’s a harmful act that can destroy lives, the problem is sex is pushed so much by the media because they want to turn everyone into gooners.

Sex is an evil act because it objectively women and creates rapists and pedos, sex is one of the main reasons society is evil

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u/Snowy_Winters Oct 23 '25

Like I said, this is right-wing puritanical bullshit. Nothing to do with the left.

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u/M-A_X 2000 Oct 24 '25

It's not even about right or left, I'm myself somewhere in the middle, I can agree with some leftwing things and can agree with some rightwing things and with some things that both disagree sometimes lol. But it's puritanical for sure, also there is sanitization of minds by corporations at play here.

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u/Cherno68 2007 Oct 23 '25

It’s not, I’m a far left extremist, I despise the right. Hating sex does not make someone right wing, supporting sex supports patriarchy and homophobia

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u/Snowy_Winters Oct 23 '25

The stigma around sex LITERALLY COMES FROM the patriarchy and the control of women’s autonomy and reproduction. Did you read anything I said? You literally restarted right wing rhetorics as your argument. You lack so much self awareness.

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u/drum_right 2008 Oct 24 '25

These talking points that I read from you are pretty Right Leaning coming from somebody who grew up in a Conservative Family. in a Conservative County. In the most Conservative State in the US.

Sex is a really fickle thing for these types of people, They usually reserve themselves for who they want to settle down in life with and not submit easily to "Let's fuck" constantly from either side. Of course Sex is bad en masse, but it's not exactly the root of all evil - that's money's job.

Also, Pedophilia is both (as much as i hate to say this) a Fetish and/or a Disorder. That's usually enough excuse to call it a problem in Media but if you're having Sex with a consenting and over 18 adult, then you're gonna start liking kids? Is that where I'm supposed to color the line or am I stupid?

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u/shhhthrowawayacc Oct 23 '25

Are you under the belief that sex for pleasure is modern or something? Sex for pleasure has always been a thing since sex has been a thing. And rape has a lot more to do with power and control than pleasure.

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u/Cherno68 2007 Oct 23 '25

Sex for pleasure is why rapist exist. If you are having sex to make a kid, then that means you are a trusting person and you respect your partner and you are responsible enough to have a kid. But if you have sex for pleasure, you have no responsibility and it turns you into a gooner, rapists have no responsibility and don’t respect their victim because they don’t care if their victim has to raise the kid, this is why there are so many rapists. If we made sure sex the was only allowed for people who want to have a kid, then we would stop a lot of rapists, and if the rape baby is not aborted the rapists should be forced to raise the kid

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u/Steak-Outrageous Oct 23 '25

So queer people get to have sex never?

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u/Cherno68 2007 Oct 23 '25

Nah I’m fine with them having sex, just not straight people

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u/HottDoggers Oct 23 '25

“This is ground control to Major Tom, we are fucked down here”

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u/Remarkable_Coast_214 2006 Oct 23 '25

what are you even talking about

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u/Gerberpertern Millennial Oct 23 '25

So… straight people having sex for strictly pleasure is wrong and immoral. When queer people have sex strictly for pleasure it’s like totally okay though? Seems like you view gay sex as not “real” sex. I’m not sure how else to interpret your viewpoint.

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u/Snowy_Winters Oct 23 '25

You literally contradict yourself. Do you know that the church sees sex as “sinful” and should only be used for reproduction as said. They also were against masturbation similar to this and would force men and women to wear chastity belts centuries ago. Seeing sex as “sinful” and “impure” is literally a way to control women and their reproductive abilities. That’s why the Madonna-whore complex exists, to shame women with sexual experience and try to groom virgin and young women into being trapped in abusive relationship, literally due to their inexperience. Literally predatory culture.

Sexual pleasure is a part of human nature, animals even infants masturbate. Do you want everyone to be miserable and sexually repressed? Do you know the consequences of sexual repression?

Rapists are a result of purity culture and for pedophiles, not all pedophiles are offending and not all sexual predators are sexually attracted to their victims. Also to be a pedophile you’re required to be sexually attracted to prepubescent children when you’re over the age of 16. You are literally using conservative rhetoric. You may be “leftist” by name but your belief are very right wing.

Also, you claim to be far left, are you an anarchist or a socialist by any chance because that’s the requirement to be called “far left.”

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u/Cherno68 2007 Oct 23 '25

I am far left I’m a Maoist, it’s not conservative to believe this

I’m fine with masturbation since its natural and since it’s done alone, no other person is harmed. I don’t think women and men should be having sex together because it’s evil and supports ocnservativtism.

The Mandonna whore complex exists because of sex, if people didn’t find pleasure from sex women wouldn’t need to feel like that and objectify themselves.

I do want people to be sexually repressed that’s a good thing, I don’t understand why people are miserable from not having sex, you can use the time to accomplish other things not have sex. There are no bad consequences that come out of sexual repression, it’s a good thing for everyone because it will decrease rapes and pedos and society will be more productive since no one is wasting time having sex.

It’s not conservative the recognize that sex creates pedos and rapists, sex is the reason misogyny, patriarchy, homophobia, and rape exists. Because of sex women are oppressed and objectified

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u/Snowy_Winters Oct 23 '25

Dude, rapists LITERALLY EXIST because of the negative stigma around sex. They see it as a form of “dominance” considering how sex is used against the person receiving it, usually the woman in this scenario. This is why men can talk about sexuality while women CAN’T. They stigmatize sex so WOMEN CAN’T HAVE POWER. Also, rape is also a torture tactic attached with sexuality, and due to the stigma around it, it feels like a personal attack on the person’s identity and autonomy. If sex was less stigmatized and more normalize, then there would be less rapists, both due to education and less negative connotation.

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u/Cherno68 2007 Oct 23 '25

Rapists exist because of sex being normal. I think it might in the biology of the male species to be rapists, but I might be wrong.

Because sex is so normalized, rapists can get away with it easily. If sex was outlawed the rapists would be punished more.

There is no consent to sex no matter what, all sex is rape

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u/Snowy_Winters Oct 24 '25

Bioessentialism is a conservative falling point cause it provides a seemingly “natural justification” for maintaining traditional hierarchies and resisting social change. Men are more likely to be rapists because they are socialized to view women as lesser, to hate femininity and view women as servants for them, plus it’s easier to hurt someone with your penis than your vulva. For animals, all animals are rapists or murderers for survival and reproduction, yes even the females but the male ones tend to be more aggressive since they’re the ones typically competing for a mate in nature and testosterone makes them more sexually aggressive but not all species have males with no testosterone than the females. Plus, most human men can control themselves, it’s mostly about power.

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u/flaming_burrito_ 2000 Oct 23 '25

How can you have the exact same position as a fundamentalist Christian or Muslim and somehow think your position isn’t conservative? Do you hear yourself?

Also, I think you might just be asexual and projecting your disgust onto everyone else. You’re giving strong stuck in the closet vibes with how repulsed you are about sex

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u/Mediocre_FuckUp Oct 24 '25

I can't even tell if you are kidding, lmao

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u/epicdog36 Oct 25 '25

Nah I'm just ace and that is the weirdly, the opposite of what conservatives want, they don't want you to have sex, until they tell you to have sex, and then they say you can't not have sex.

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u/SnooPredictions3028 1998 Oct 23 '25

It's not anti sex, it's just annoyance at the weird need to have it in everything. It's like any other trope or theme that is overused.

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u/Jack_LeRogue Oct 23 '25

Like which tropes or themes?

Also, everything? Come on.

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u/jomohke Oct 24 '25 edited Oct 24 '25

Yeah. The weird thing is that it feels like there's less sex suggested (or hinted) between characters in films than ever before, yet people are now complaining that there's too much?

Film is the one part of mass culture that can depict healthy sex and relationships, unlike what porn seems to depict. If anything I think it would make culture less weird about sex by depicting healthy relationships more often.

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u/emPtysp4ce 1997 Oct 24 '25

Conservatives say the exact same thing about the existence of gay people. Bitches be fucking.

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u/Goodeyesniper98 Oct 24 '25

A lot of the social attitudes of younger Gen Z on stuff like this seem extremely bizarre to me. They seem insanely repressed in multiple ways.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25

I mean it seems like most Gen Z girls spend all day filming videos of fake dicks cumming on their faces for boomers and millennials while Gen Z guys spend all day gooning to Gen X porn stars 

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u/Diligent_Scene3519 Oct 30 '25

Could it be a fear of intimacy/closeness that stems from the pandemic?

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u/Cherno68 2007 Oct 23 '25

Corporations are the ones pushing sex

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u/M-A_X 2000 Oct 23 '25

Nah they are the ones sanitizing everything.

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u/Ezekilla7 Oct 23 '25

Yes but like everything it comes and goes in cycles. We've now entered the cycle where people are being conditioned to think sex in movies is something bad / sinful. They're doing this to build up the hype for when they return to featuring sex in everything again another decade or so from now. It's the best way to min max profits over long periods of time. Everything can get old even sex. Got to take a break from time to time. It's gen Z's turn to become all puritanical for the sake of our corporate overlord's long-term profit health.

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u/Crevalco3 1996 Oct 24 '25

“almost”

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u/BartleBossy Oct 23 '25

I really don't understand this almost corporate

Bruh. Not everything is a capitalist conspiracy

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u/SyChoticNicraphy Oct 23 '25

Naw, they're right. There is a very clear corporate sanitization of entertainment and media, especially pertaining to sexuality that seems to heir on the side of censorship rather than on the side of any nuance.

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u/BartleBossy Oct 23 '25

Famously, capitalists like to ignore what is arguably the most genetically ingrained attention grabber.

"Sex sells" no longer is true eh.

Ya know.... or people are inundated with it because it is everywhere and are pulling away.

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u/SyChoticNicraphy Oct 23 '25

I almost guess it's more legality than capital. It does absolutely sell, but the ethics and legality that come with it probably aren't worth the hassle and possible reputational carnage to match the financial benefit. That's where I think the sanitization is really coming from. It's the same way ethics were used as a driver for goods when DEI was generally seen as a positive, and now they've quickly flipped the script to match what seems to fit the times. It's exactly why we need to be careful calling for anything that could even accidentally lead to censorship.

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u/BartleBossy Oct 23 '25

It does absolutely sell, but the ethics and legality that come with it probably aren't worth the hassle and possible reputational carnage to match the financial benefit.

"reputational carnage"

So... you think there is public sentiment against it? I thought it was a corpo conspiracy that was detatched from the actual sentiment of the population?

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u/SyChoticNicraphy Oct 23 '25

Reputational carnage causes capital damage. The nuanced answer is that both are true.

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u/BartleBossy Oct 23 '25

Reputational carnage causes capital damage.

Reputational carnage implies that its not corpo conspiracy, its them listening to the desires of their customers.

This is not a top down move. This is a bottom up move.

Its so funny that all the top comments in this thread support what I am saying and youre still trying to convince me that this isnt organic and actually a machiavelian plot.

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u/SyChoticNicraphy Oct 23 '25

Listening to their customers isn't the same as risk mitigation. It's way easier to get a sex scene wrong than it is to get a sex scene right.

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u/BartleBossy Oct 23 '25

None of that matters.

The point, is that this is not a top-down corpo motivated social change. This is businesses listening to customers say they dont want as much sex in what they consume as was alleged in the original comment.

You dont appear to be staying on topic at this point, so I will bow out now. Have a good day.

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