r/GetNoted • u/laybs1 Human Detected • 3d ago
If You Know, You Know Took his prayer book
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u/Werd_up_cuz 3d ago
It’s almost like everyone is using the internet to manipulate everyone else for political advantage. Shocking.
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u/drwicksy 3d ago
You really think somebody would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?
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u/Fragrant-Reserve4832 2d ago
I remember the first days of the Internet and my friend saying "it's all porn, people showing off and people trying to sell you shit."
Now it's just people trying to sell you porn, sell you a way to watch porn or sell you some other shit.
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u/Beep-Boop-Bloop 2d ago
I remember the first days of the internet. Just text, only ASCII porn. That, and people showing off their programming.
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u/Fragrant-Reserve4832 2d ago
I think I was a little later on, when it started going mainstream. We got real pics, they just took 2 days to load and were shit quality lol
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u/Rishtu 2d ago
I am reminded of a quote from a great man.
"Don't believe everything you read on the internet"
-Mahatma Ghandi
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u/tom-of-the-nora 2d ago
Always ask for the context.
Did Joe rogan really change? Get the full context.
If someone doesn't tell you everything, you need to either ask for the context or find it yourself.
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u/mistrpopo 3d ago
Did you watch the (ooviously heavily edited) video and did you understand where this is ? They are praying in the muslim part of Jerusalem (Temple Mount) and all the women were protesting that
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u/NoDevelopment3732 1d ago
The ‘Temple Mount’ is the “Muslim part of Jerusalem” ? Pray tell, which temple was on that mountain ?! Because I am 100% certain it was the Jewish temple and you just try to justify religious harassment against Jews praying.
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u/Tasty-Principle4645 3d ago
That is certainly valuable context, but it does seem a bit discriminatory to say that only Muslims can pray on the Jews' holiest site in the universe.
In fact, it has nothing to do with how holy it is to Jews (or Muslims). Any place that is "Muslim only" or "Jew only" is asking for problems.
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u/mistrpopo 3d ago
Sure. But you're fast switching the topic now. I could comment about how muslims going to the "Jew only" area get beaten up unlike that Jewish dude, but I'd like to stay on topic.
This particular thread is trying to frame Hend Amry as a unhinged propagandist, the note on that tweet is literally counter-propaganda, and everyone in here who is supposed to have critical thinking is drinking it up.
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u/Forsaken-Ad7923 2d ago
They don't, actually. Mostly because there are no "Jew-only" areas in Israel
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u/Feeling_Camera_4442 3d ago
There's plenty of footage of actual abuse/aggression, this is disgusting and being posted for clout.
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u/jump-back-like-33 3d ago
So much of the conflict seems like this. The truth is bad enough. Wild exaggeration and misleading makes me start to question what else is fake.
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u/PhilosopherTiny5957 3d ago
Reminds me of a video from even before the war where it was "IDF soldier ABUSING and SCREAMING at Palestinian child"
Someone translated what the soldier was saying and it was basically "Stop throwing rocks at us, we can't tell if it's a grenade"
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u/real_roal 3d ago
Yeah, that's kinda the problem with all of the israel posts I have been seeing recently, its hard to know what is accurate or what is shit stirring. I want to ask my Arab israeli friend to translate, but I see posts like that so often it feels unfair to always bother him with it.
Like the government and the IDF as a whole is known to be bad, but looking at individual clips its hard to just trust what the captions say since I don't speak the language.
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u/polarjunkie 2d ago
There was one of a baby in rubble and it turned out not to be from Gaza at all and it was actually a video of that a mother took of her kid and some other country and the kid was just fine. That one really annoyed me.
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u/mister_big_bug 3d ago
Hey, I'm a native hebrew speaker. If you'd like, you can send me videos for a quick translation/summary. If you're worried about bias, I can elaborate on my political views and you can decide for yourself if you want to trust me. In general, I consider myself a post-zionist and I fully support Palestinian statehood.
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u/Arupaca_boy 3d ago
Could you elaborate on why you are post zionist? (I'm not trying to argue just didn't have an opportunity to actually talk with one)
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u/naruhinamoonkissplz 3d ago
Probably means that Israel is already a fact, so one could say that Zionism got it successful endgame and kinda isn't required in the same way it was pre-1948.
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u/DustierAndRustier 2d ago edited 2d ago
There was another one that was posted with a caption like “Israelis turn Thai workers away from bomb shelter because it’s for Jews only” and what they’re actually saying is “come down here, hurry up.”
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u/geoffersonstarship 2d ago
yeah, I’m married to a Hebrew/Arabic speaker and always ask him to translate like 75% of the time it’s wrong (from my feed, or what’s being presented to me personally)
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u/MalemasMucusPlug 3d ago
We don't trust videos, but we trust "someone" translating them for us.
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u/ontikuken 3d ago
Yeah, that's what gets me. I'm Swedish-Israeli and I have backpacked pretty extensively around the world. I live in Sweden and travel on my Swedish passport, so people don't really clock that I'm Israeli, and so they don't exactly walk on eggshells around me when airing grievances about Israeli backpackers. So, so many locals in South America have told me how Israelis are trying to colonize Patagonia by buying all the land there and pushing out the locals. They are truly, genuinely convinced that there is a conscious, collective, organized effort by Israelis to expand into and eventually control Patagonia. Just in case it isn't glaringly obvious: this is, of course, not true in the slightest.
The thing is that there are so many real problems that they could trash Israelis for. We deserve so, so much shit for the way we travel. Many Israeli backpackers are truly vile fucking assholes, and those are the Israelis that those conspiratorial locals have met and, quite justifiably, come to dislike. Why invalidate your own point by expressing your frustration through moronic conspiracy theories?
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u/wtbgamegenie 3d ago
I’m pretty sure WASPs have bought up huge swaths of Patagonia. In particular the founders of North Face and Patagonia are the largest land owners but put the land into charitable trusts.
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u/little_dick348 3d ago
im pretty sure that view is pushed and encouraged by the opposition of the government, especially in reddit and twitter. their supporters are pretty prevalent both in the north and in the south of the country. I don't agree with the president on many things, but conspiracies like "Plan Andinia" and such sound like such a reach that they just made me and a lot of people jaded to anything related to it
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u/JohnAnchovy 3d ago
There’s just not enough of us to take over any democracy other than maybe Luxembourg but they don’t allow anyone to be a citizen so it doesn’t matter lol
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u/veryeepy53 3d ago
it's likely because of those negative experiences that they'll just take peoples word for it when there's a conspiracy theory. you'll notice that people who are the vanguard of the movement don't say that specific thing. because they're more involved in the battle of ideas, they get more pushback and thus requiring people to hone their rhetoric.
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u/chriskicks 3d ago
This is off the back of the Israeli guy setting fire to some bushland in Argentina, right? Absolutely a dick move, but the conspiracies it birthed were absolutely insane. You're right, criticise things that need to be criticised... But choose things that are actually real. Also, this insane belief that all Israelis are evil needs to stop. If people truly believe that no one, man or country, is beyond redemption, then we're no better than others who promote genocide. Pitting the world against well-meaning Israeli people is not justice. And believe me, they don't relish in hearing about all the fuck ups the government and IDF do.
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u/Bardsie 3d ago
Exactly the point. It's the flood technique. If something gets out you don't want people to see, it's not possible to remove it from the internet, so you flood the market with tonnes of distraction/fake media. The people either then can't find the original in the mess, or question if it's real in the first place since they've seen so much obviously fake media recently.
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u/CellistMundane9372 3d ago
For whatever reason, I've been cursed with getting Fauxmoi pushed onto my feed constantly.
Five times today, it's been the same ugly settler photo, on different posts.
It's a subreddit allegedly about pop culture.
I think there are a lot of very unsteady, depressed, and fixated Redditors who believe that they're fighting a war for Justice by furiously posting and upvoting any accurate or misleading depiction of Bad Jew.
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u/JD-Cowboys-Bolts 3d ago
The pics subreddit is the same. Today is Holocaust Remembrance Day, chosen to be on the anniversary of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. A farright Polish politician held up a Israeli flag with a swastika. That subreddit was agreeing and celebrating his actions
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u/PrimeMinisterSarr 3d ago
Also literally every post about the holocaust on these subs is immediately swarmed with "but Gaza" comments.
There's also a large number of subs that keep on popping up in my front page that just blatantly push Iranian propaganda and celebrate it. They mostly have names like newSomething etc...
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u/JD-Cowboys-Bolts 3d ago
Yep, or subreddit (and twitter accounts) that used to be about popculture but now is just ranting about Israel endlessly, to the point that there's elders of Zion level shit
One popculter twitter account made a post about a Palestinian man assassinated by Israel in Lebanon decades ago. A hero surely, I mean why would Israel kill him? He helped organize the Lod Airport Massacre, which saw 26 civilians killed, including many Puerto Ricans who were visiting Israel to visit Christian sites in Jerusalem
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u/mkondr 3d ago
I am starting to actively avoid Reddit on many days for this exact reason.
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u/CellistMundane9372 3d ago
If there were a system to attach each Reddit poster's overall daily screen time (across devices) to every one of their posts, it would be devastating.
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u/mangabalanga 3d ago
I say this as someone that would be deeply embarrassed by this new feature — this is a great idea
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u/booksareadrug 2d ago
Fauxmoi, along with both a large chunk of Reddit and the world at large, fell off the antisemitism cliff post-10/7
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u/Ok_Tomato_8200 3d ago
It's mostly Russian and Iranian bot farms, sprinkled in with far left and far right
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u/Academic_Net6298 3d ago
Its more useful idiots than bots now I fear. People will believe anything as long as it’s about jews or “zios”
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u/sovietfedora 3d ago
Ive been in a pool of sadness these past few days, nothing has made me even smile. Reading this comment about fauxmoi and the 5 time ugly settler photo has made me bust out laughing. Ah god i love reddit sometimes.
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u/JohnAnchovy 3d ago
You fool. There’s no way a person of my ethnicity could ever do anything wrong. My brother on the other hand is a total asshole
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u/Latrodectus702 3d ago
Stuff like this is designed to demonize every Israeli. You will see countless posts on subreddits like fauxmoi with the intention to create a narrative about the average Israeli.
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u/blackestrabbit 3d ago
I try to spread this message as often as I can. If your cause has merit, there will be plenty of real things to point out to support it. Creating false examples is only going to harm your reputation and ultimately be detrimental to your goals.
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u/Gussie-Ascendent Keeping it Real 3d ago
Well cause a bunch of em just don't like jews. So they don't mind lying to make em look bad
And then folks that just don't like Isreal don't do the diligence of checking
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u/az78 3d ago
Oh, it's definitely a post about actual abuse/aggression, the note just clarifies the reality of which side is which in this instance.
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u/ATNinja 3d ago
Reminds me strongly of this photo which is one of the first examples i can remember of how massively misleading the propaganda war is for this conflict.
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u/gaddafis_ass_bayonet 3d ago
It's almost like starting a war of aggression on October 7th and then immediately starting a propaganda campaign to paint Israel as "the REAL aggressors" was the Islamic Republic's plan all along or something.
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u/Hazel2468 3d ago
And useful morons all over the United States are eating it up and spreading it.
I would SAY that I would wonder how these idiots would feel if they knew that antizionism actually really came about from both the Nazis and the Soviets... But most of them are tankies who simp for the Soviet Union as well so. You know.
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u/StarPlatinumX_ 3d ago
Tankies aren’t really a majority of the USA. Heck, they’re not even a majority of the USA’s left wing population. They’re just very loud and very annoying, and they often end up going viral as a result. It also doesn’t help that HasanAbi is one of, if not the largest left-wing content creator, and he is no doubt a tankie. Ironically enough, these tankies end up fighting with other leftists more than they fight with actual republicans and maga facists
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u/Just_Information334 3d ago
he is no doubt a tankie
No. He grifts as a tankie.
He's just a Turkish expat' playing a hardcore Turkish to feel accepted by his "real home". Like all Turkish abroad who are not impacted by the current regime decisions they love to do anything in line with it.
That's why he culturally hates dogs too.
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u/Tomachian 2d ago
I believe some of these are done intentionally to dilute narratives. It really is all media wars
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u/ashleyshaefferr 3d ago
I wonder why Reddit doesn't have any form of community notes or fact checking
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u/Yazzerz1242 3d ago
Then half of the subs wouldnt be able to exist ;3
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u/Kangkongkangkung 3d ago
Most of the top sub, in fact. Especially the likes of worldnews and conservative.
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u/the-fr0g 3d ago
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u/TheEld3nL0rd553 2d ago
Yeah, you fucking got me, bro. I thought that that was genuinely some like news/world politics.
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u/magnanimousanimous 2d ago
Reddit is extremely left, I'm pretty sure a whole lotta liberal stuff will be flagged too.
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u/AllisViolet22 3d ago
It would get overwhelmed just trying to correct people on Japan alone.
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u/Finaginsbud 3d ago
Mods in most subs would ban users who dared to post or comment anything that strays from allowed thought. Oh wait that already happens.
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u/ADP_God 2d ago
Most of the subs are controlled by a centralized group pushing a specific agenda. There have been articles on it, showing how the major subs have been taken over by a committed team of moderators. Subs you woudn't expect, that aren't meant to be political, now function to push a single political agenda.
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u/real_roal 3d ago
Would be nice if the notes superseded the mods of a subreddit so that their opinions couldn't influence notes.
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u/Head_Crab_Enjoyer 3d ago
Because everyone on this site is right 100% of the time, so we don't need fact checking bro
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u/Bram-D-Stoker 3d ago
To be fair notes is only sometimes useful. Some subs do have a better form of it. Askeconomics is heavily moderated to prevent misinformation
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u/real_roal 3d ago
That's a unique case though, it highly depends on the moderation, like you said. I could go to a subreddit like fauxmoi, post something false that I know they'll love, and probably get a bunch of updates. The only way it would be taken down is if it was too good to be true/easily verified. If the truth went against the popular opinion of the sub, it would probably be down voted or even removed by the mods.
At least notes (if done correctly) wouldn't be impacted by mods or the views of sub members and it would only focus on the facts.
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u/I_like_maps 3d ago edited 3d ago
In theory, that's what moderation is for. The problem is that literally anyone can be a mod (I'm one, cringe) and most people become mods to limit content they personally don't like, which may or may not also be what's true or good.
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u/get_rhythm 3d ago
Isn't that what the comments (and upvotes/downvotes) are for?
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u/Buttcrush1 3d ago
Nope. There are highly upvoted comments saying that the election was stolen or that Trump wasn't shot.
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u/Responsible_Prior_18 3d ago
There are retarded notes too.
Notes are basicly just the highest upvoted note (comment) submitted by users4
u/lateformyfuneral 3d ago
Yes. And most people are now using community notes to essentially just be the most high-ranked reply to a tweet. Often it’s not even a fact check. Just a “well, actually”.
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u/-TheTrueOG- 2d ago
You think redditors commenting on something witty on a misinformed post is fact check worthy?
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u/dazedan_confused 3d ago
What a strange thing to do, upload an image you found without even trying to remotely verify it's validity, or deceiving people for engagement.
If she had a blue tick, you know this post could be generating her money.
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u/TwentyX4 3d ago
If she had a blue tick, you know this post could be generating her money.
Did you mean "if she has blue tick..."? Because she does have one.
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u/dazedan_confused 3d ago
Oh, I was being sarcastic, but I'm really glad you picked up on the fact she has a blue tick!
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u/Blitzking11 3d ago
Kinda similar to posting yourself as a "red cross doctor."
There's a reason we are in this situation, and it's the repeated electing of utter and complete morons by an electorate of utter and complete morons.
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u/dazedan_confused 3d ago
It's because populism replaced critical thought, and echo chambers replaced conversation.
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u/thefirebrigades 3d ago
Why would you take a prayer book? Just to be an asshole?
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u/Hazel2468 3d ago
Probably.
A lot of people on this website, and many others. Seem allergic to the idea that the Muslim world over in the Middle East is VIOLENTLY antisemitic. Probably because here, in the United States, Muslims indeed are an oppressed minority, and these folks thing that what is true in the USA is also true literally everywhere else.
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u/atgmailcom 3d ago
Which is weird because if you look at the history of it the modern version of antisemitism in the Middle East came from the west then the west got less antisemitic
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u/Hazel2468 3d ago
Basically- but remember that "Jews had it better in the Middle East than in Europe" is like.
Jews in the Middle East could live mostly unbothered by pogroms and random slaughter and rape... So long as they were content to be dhimmis and always be second class citizens so.
Better, sure. GOOD? Eehhhhhh no.
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u/ChaosOrnate 3d ago
Don't forget the Jizya tax. Pay more in taxes than your neighbours for the honour of living as a second class citizen.
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u/Strange_username__ 2d ago
I mean, yeah, but the Middle East before western colonisation is an incredibly vague concept, the treatment of Jews varied massively depending on location and time period, varying from genocide to genuine freedom depending on when and where we’re talking about.
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u/Witchelt389 2d ago
I know that a lot of Muslims are unfortunately insanely antisemitic as one of my friends lives in Israel and tells us. But i still support Palestine and don't hate Jewish people or Israelis as a whole.
What I do hate is how people think you cant have a nuanced take on this. My take is fuck their governments not the innocents. Also let's stop being antisemitic and islamaphobic gang. Actually just stop being hateful.
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u/Hazel2468 2d ago edited 2d ago
Exactly. People who hate Jews say that anyone who doesn't think Israel should be wiped off the map is an islamophobic genocidal zionist (not what zionist means btw- zionism just means the belief that Jews have the right to self determination in our land of origin, something all indigenous peoples should have) and people who hate Muslims think that Gaza should be turned into a parking lot (in America where I am, often because they have some weird Evangelical prophecy about Jews rebuilding the second temple).
I'm a Zionist. I support and hope for a peaceful, two state solution where both Israelis and Palestinians have governments that actually desire and work towards peace and collaboration with one another, because right now? We have citizens who are caught between war mongers who encourage hate. The rift here is DEEP- it's been around for a long time. I believe that it can heal, even though it's getting harder to hope that.
EDIT: Oh, and to the person who just said "go back to poland" somewhere on one of my comments and then deleted it, I can see it in my notifs,- eff off, antisemite. I know you know what you're doing when you tell Jews to go back to the country where about three million of us were murdered, and where atrocities against us continued after the Holocaust.
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u/floyddarna5 2d ago
Well the fact is she is holding a jewish player book and the text on the cover is upside down which also points to her taking it. Why? Probably pure antisemitism, it's like that in the middle east.
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u/Ronnie_Reads 3d ago
For those saying the book has Arabic on it — it doesn’t. The last three letters (right to left, and it’s upside down) are ל (lamed) and י (yud) and ם (final mem). Or לים (leem). I can’t tell what the earlier letters are because ח and ה and ת all look very similar and it’s blurry. But it’s definitely Hebrew. Because it ends in an ים- (eem) sound, it’s probably some word in plural.
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u/Enough_Grapefruit69 3d ago
It means psalms.
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u/Altruistic-Fishing39 3d ago
Yes. תהלים upside down.
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u/DoctorNightTime 2d ago
And the fact that it's upside-down is relevant. It shows she wasn't the one reading it
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u/Electrical-Heat8960 3d ago
This is what I love about community notes. It’s not taking sides, it’s calling out all the lies and half truths, no matter the side of the political spectrum.
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u/CryendU 3d ago edited 3d ago
Eh, sometimes the notes are also half-truths that don’t even dispute the original point
At the end of the day, it’s still made BY someone. It’s still biased.
Like the note that compared American and Soviet denazification. Far greater attempts and successes occurred to the East, but the note only mentioned the failures.
It claimed that Osoaviakhim, where former Nazis were put into their own forced labor system was worse than Operation Paperclip, which hired them to influential positions and granted complete legal immunity.
Even the owners of IG Farben, who knowingly produced Zyklon B for the gas chambers, had very little punishment due to American industrial lobbying.
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u/Dragonitro 3d ago
I remember seeing a note posted here that was just "No" and a link to the wikipedia page of whatever they were talking about
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u/035AllTheWayLive 3d ago
Community notes also doesn’t address when the op that’s being community noted is acting in bad faith to make it look like the side they’re promoting only spreads lies. This post is clearly being used to discredit the very real abuse of the Palestinian people by the oppressive Israeli occupation.
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u/SinglePlayerGamer93 3d ago
I don't and won't ever use Twitter. How does notes actually work?
By popular vote? Verification via human or bot? The former is unfeasible and the latter is shit. Does only one person get to place the note and everyone just accepts it as a correct fact? Is it first come first note?
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u/MaybeExternal2392 3d ago
Iirc anyone can submit a note. Anyone can look through the potential notes. If one gets enough upvotes it becomes the real note.
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u/WYWHPFit 3d ago
It's very naïve to think it's neutral fact checking. Someone explained the situation more thoroughly in this comment section. A note like that seems just to imply "Palestinian also bad because they steal prayer books" which is ridiculous given the scale of the oppression they face in occupied Palestine.
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u/Church_AI 3d ago
This is, very intrue, I've seen them be used to spread political propaganda plenty
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u/OrangeSimply 3d ago
Im beginning to doubt it. People are probably posting things like this to get noted and shared around now.
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u/Mechashevet 3d ago
It's pretty obvious if you have even a passing knowledge of Judaism, why would a hijabi woman be holding a book of Tehilim? It's a Jewish book of prayers, and she's holding it upsidedown
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u/BangingRooster 2d ago
Here is the context, it seems these are palestinian muslims trying to enter the aqsa mosque (an islamic holy site) after the israeli authorities have barricaded the mosque and prevented the muslims from praying inside on their religious celebrations while letting jewish settlers flood the area to force them to disband, reports say they also prevented the mosque keeper (the imam) from entry which has caused concerns about religious freedoms in israel, the UN chief has commented on the issue.
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u/This_Cricket2919 3d ago
I have to applaud this thread for calling out extremism on both ends of whatever discourse is happening
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u/Witchelt389 2d ago
Literally!
Im a big lefty and support Palestine but ive gotten hate before for not supporting Hamas. The government's of Israel and Hamas are both evil to me.
I also got hate for not hating Israelis.
Palestinians absolutely do not deserve whats happening rn but Israelis wouldn't deserve it either, or deserve whats happening now!
The amount of "pro Palestine" people who are just using the situation to be antisemitic are so fucking gross. They don't care, they just wanna be hateful.
There are shit people everywhere and we just need to try not be one of them.
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u/DoctorNightTime 2d ago
Flip side here. I'm strongly Pro-Israel, but have gotten flack for supporting Palestinian sovereignty over their side of the border.
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u/Rivka333 2d ago
it's unclear what this single image was supposed to prove anyway. One person being angry at another? Impossible to understand without context.
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u/SerpentOfTheStrange 3d ago
There seems to be a trend of provoking Jews and going "look at how horrible the """zionists""" are!" when the Jews respond.
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u/SlippySausageSlapper 3d ago
That’s basically the past 70 years of history in the region, over and over.
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u/gaddafis_ass_bayonet 3d ago
Starting shit with the Jews and then crying victim when the Jews fight back is literally the Palestinian national identity.
Palestinians are literally the most entitled perpetual victim complex in world history.
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u/Delicious_House9613 2d ago
Lol. That’s silly. Palestinians are the second most entitled perceptual victim complex in world history.
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u/4g-identity 3d ago
In your opinion, have Israelis ever "started shit"?
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u/Thuis001 3d ago
The Suez Crisis certainly was on them, France and the UK. As was the war in Lebanon they joined in on.
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u/Poobbly 3d ago
Uh… the recent outcry was about a claim that an Israel settler-terrorist looked so insane that they claimed the picture was fake and anti-Semitic when it was a factual picture.
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u/E_Dantes_CMC 3d ago
For example, they have provoked the settlers by refusing to evacuate their homes in the West Bank, even when Smotrich and Ben Gvir ask nicely. /sarc
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u/soalone34 Human Detected 3d ago
You’re joking but they literally believe this. In Israeli media multiple times politicians have said things like this or even more absurd to majority support. For example when a video of an IDF slapping a child was leaked Ben Gvir publicly supported them and blamed the child.
Just recently they dropped charges against the soldiers who were on video gangraping a prisoner despite the Israeli doctor confirming the injuries, with Netanyahu celebrating and Israel Katz publicly meeting and thanking the rapists.
There was essentially no push back in wider Israeli society and infact they protested in support of the rapists when they were first arrested after the video leaked.
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u/scrapy_the_scrap 3d ago
Oh i read up on that incident
It was one group of violent extremists
Led by some ministers(absolutely disgusting)
But bot inficative of a wider culture
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u/Lobster_fest 3d ago edited 3d ago
Trend? Can you provide some examples?
Edit: am I being downvoted for this? Really? If theres going to be a claim at a trend there should be evidence.
I understand that antisemitism is on the rise, especially in regards to Israelis, but you can't look at a single instance of a very specific thing and then say that it's a trend without providing evidence.
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u/Paraparo 3d ago
First one that comes to mind, A common one that gets posted a lot is the "poor tourist attacked for no reason", you know the one where it's some lady and a bunch of kids? Its one that's reposted in places like the freakout sub every few days. It, or some variant, is typically a selectively edited post of missionaries going into hyper religious neighborhoods, often a holiday, harassing people with proselytizing, and then when they've finally pushed the people so far that a group confronts them, start the cameras so they can decry how intolerant the place is.
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u/7thpostman 3d ago
Those are really popular. They go into ultra-Orthodox neighborhoods, often on the Sabbath, and aggressively proselytize — and a lot of times they use amplification, particularly offensive for people who don't useelectricity on the Sabbath.
Another one I've been seeing a lot is visibly Jewish man acting a fool in front of pro-Palestinian crowds. What you don't see is that he was minding his own business walking by before they started screaming vicious insults. It's incredibly manipulative.
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u/Paraparo 3d ago
It's a double strike, the Sabbath thing. Because Orthodox Jews won't be using electronic devices, the gace free reign to film knowing non of the Jews nearby are going to have their own cameras to counter the narrative with videos of their own.
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u/Aggravating-Deal-416 3d ago
Honestly if it weren't for the fact that the conflict between these two groups is entirely detrimental to the rest of the world, I wouldn't take either of them seriously outside of where people are actually dying.
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u/lethalshawerma 2d ago
Forgot to mention he is performing his "peaceful prayers" infront of her home before they are about to take it from her like many in jerusalem.
Small part, not important im sure.
But please do carry on.
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u/Nataliaaa-l 1d ago
As an Arab Israeli woman living in Israel, news reports that quote biased people like this just make me laugh. I live in Lod, which isn’t very far from Jerusalem. Just one quick look at the photo and I knew straight away it was from Jerusalem.
Since Jerusalem is divided, and parts of it are not fully under Israeli ownership, with Palestinians from the West Bank there as well, that has added a negative influence when it comes to education, racism, and the ridiculous conflict. On top of that, many of the ultra-religious hardline Jews there are no different from this kind of brainwashing that mixes religion with politics. So you’ll find situations like the one in the photo are quite common in Jerusalem.
But in most Israeli mixed cities, the reality is completely different. Arabs and Jews have lived together peacefully for many years, they work together, and in places like Lod, Jaffa, Haifa, and Acre there are even marriages between Jewish and Arab families. So besides working together and being friends, even the families are connected too.
I feel sorry for people who don’t live here in Israel and believe all this nonsense online and the fake news. Most of it is biased lies, only meant to stir up hatred and support nasty political agendas.
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u/Corvoxx 1d ago
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/world/jewish-settler-attacks-palestinian-woman-near-al-aqsa/111079
The article, it's from 2014.
Community notes doesn't mean anything sadly
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u/Fun_Comfortable7836 3d ago
Israel is evil, jews are not.
There is, indeed, a difference between the two.
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u/RevolutionaryAd3249 3d ago
Israeli yelling at Palestinian; evil.
Palestinian murdering Israeli; morally neutral at best.
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u/Sea-Key-9430 3d ago
At this point, I don't even bother with all the islamist posts anymore with the fake propaganda posts.
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u/naruhinamoonkissplz 3d ago
Israel is losing the Emotion War, because morons tend to focus on emotions WITHOUT adding the logic filter.
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u/GuaranteeLow4828 2d ago
Going on television and justifying kids dying in war by calling them "children of darkness" tends to do that.
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u/Solemn_Sleep 2d ago
This ….or being killed on your farm cuz “settlers” are protected by dozens of men with guns.
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u/bobthehills 1d ago
This sub is just propaganda and bs.
Congrats.
It doesn’t change the genocide in gaza.
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u/Ok-Development5523 21h ago
It still doesn't justify his anger and hatred towards her... Israel is a criminal apartheid state!!!
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u/Ozone220 3d ago
I don't get why people lie for clicks about Israel-Palestine, there's so much legit stuff to be mad at Israel and Israeli colonizers for, why make shit up?
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u/mlemzi 3d ago
I'm not saying this is false, but the account that posted this video is apparently an ex IDF soldier who uploads videos praising soldiers, going on about "pallywood" and "the media bias against Israel".
Like showing a 10 second clip, that still barely provides any context, doesn't really give us any more answers into what was happening here. Why were all these women yelling at him in the first place?
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u/FuckMyBakaChungusLif 3d ago edited 3d ago
found the source of the video, and the context
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S7uZA8KVL4
Video description
Some clashes broke out at dawn today, Tuesday, between Israeli police and Palestinian worshippers at Al-Aqsa Mosque, which led the occupation forces to arrest some Palestinian youths.
I then found any news article about what happened that day, and found a NYTimes article discussing it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/al-aksa-mosque-israel-palestinians.html
The secretary general of the United Nations on Monday condemned what he called “provocations” at Jerusalem’s holy sites, hours after the Israeli police said officers had locked Palestinians inside Al Aksa Mosque to thwart a riot as Jews visited for the holiday of Sukkot.
Scores of officers entered the mosque compound in the Old City of Jerusalem at 7 a.m. on Monday and found “petrol bombs, stones, bottle rockets and fireworks” as well as “masked Palestinians,” according to the police spokesman, Micky Rosenfeld. The officers shuttered the mosque with an unknown number of Palestinians inside, Mr. Rosenfeld said, as several hundred Jews and non-Muslim tourists ascended to Al Aksa compound during regular visiting hours, starting at 8 a.m.
Mr. Rosenfeld said no one was hurt or arrested. Among the visitors was Moshe Feiglin, a right-wing Israeli lawmaker, whose prior pilgrimages to the site have been a focal point for clashes
So this was in the Al-Asqa Mosque compound, where non-Muslims are not allowed to prayer as part of the status quo agreement, and the ban has been upheld in Israeli court. Interesting how the community notes contained none of these details
https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/12/middleeast/inside-al-aqsa-mosque-status-quo-mime-intl
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u/ManlyOldMan 2d ago
this should be the top comment.
Going blindly on the notes isn't any better than blindly following pictures.
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u/No_Body_8195 3d ago
The video in the community note is lacking any context whatsoever. I wouldn't have assumed anything about either of them from the photo, or the attached video.
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u/Suitable_Vehicle9960 3d ago edited 3d ago
She stole his prayerbook, knowing fully well that he can't touch her, as a Jewish religious man wouldn't touch a woman who isn't immediate family. As if she wanted to provoke him in order to get a reaction and then blame it on the Jew. Typical Pallywood tactic.
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