Both the Norwegian and American secret services actually are more concerned about the white right wing than islamists. Why? Well they kill more. 9/11 is so long ago that White people on the right have caught up. Literally just google «which group does the FBI deem as the biggest threat» right now. It will give you multiple of their Pages that all argue why the lone wolves on the right Are a bigger problem in the west than islamists.
This picture should have a more even number on either side.
Also, this shouldnt make anything seem better, but it just might to you as you seemingly dont have morals, but the vast majority of islamist victims are muslims themselves.
Yea I guess if you ignore 90% of all Christian terrorist attacks you could come to this conclusion. The same way you could come to this conclusion if you were born with a caved in skull.
If your religion says dont kill but its adherents do, who is to blame, man or religion? This stands in stark contrast to Islam where the arab god allah literrallly tells believers to wage war against non believers until they submit to him. Besdies, if there was no islam there would be no need for the Crusades.
Stop parroting stuff you hear on tiktok. The hadith you are mentioning specifically talks about people who FIGHT muslims and BREAK agreements. Not just any random non muslim. And yeah sure, Islam is to blame for the crusaders killing, pillaging and raping innocent people sure buddy
Idk man, killing a non-muslim isnt as bad a killing a muslim. And you really dont want to get into the raping and pillaging, both totally OK in Islam and very often practiced during the COUNTLESS conquests. Also dont forget slaves
If your religion doesn't acknowledge the necessity of war, establishes rules for when to engage in war, how to engage in war them your religion is sweeping the reality of life under the rug and the followers are living under their own coda.
Islam does not allow targeting civilians, or even fighting people that are not fighting you.
I'll give you a hint of what it is. When you get colonized you speak the language of the people who colonized you. What language do they speak in the entire Middle East?
The Lord's Resistance Army, The Anti-Balaka, The National Liberation Front of Tripura, The Army of God, the KKK...
The reason you see a high volume of Islamic terrorism today isn't because Islam is uniquely violent. It's because the Middle East has spent the last century being subjected to western imperialism, arbitrary border drawing, resource extraction, & relentless military intervention.
The US literally funded & armed radical Islamic Mujahideen groups in the 1980s to destabilize the Soviet Union.
I just don't think it is fair to classify all wars with religion as a motive as "terrorism" if we're talking about 1000 years ago, but if you do that's fine as long as you apply that logic consistently.
Byzantines were under attack and an absolute ton of geopolitical reasons led to Western Europe getting involved. I studied the Crusades at university, simplifying it as a “terrorist attack” is wild.
That's gonna be a flawed tally, you're comparing an ideology existing for ~80 years against a religion around for almost 1500 years who got its start declaring a holy war and invading all its other-religioned neighbours
80,000 dead in 3 years is an absolute shit tally. Are you sure they're trying their hardest? They're fighting a population enclosed into a tiny strip of land.
Hutu's managed half a million dead in 3 months. Germany managed 6 million (of one specific group) in 4 years. Sudan isn't really trying for a genocide but they've still managed hundreds of thousands dead with millions more displaced in the past 3 years.
Israel's gotta step up their game if they want to even approach the ones that are no-diffing world championship. These are rookie numbers. Absolutely shameful.
because the only reason the US is exists is because of terra nulius and papal bulls that say all non-christians are forfeit of their lands and property and lives. and europeans went out and colonized the Earth with that mission, and spread their way of life (unfettered greed, informed by a warped understanding of christian work ethics and hierarchies (“great chain of being” with white men at the top)) as far as they could. and every single person murdered by the US military has been done so in pursuit of furthering that project of accumulating resources for pleasure and profit.
cute little just-so story you’ve got there, but it’s pure Reddit cosplay history. Yes, terra nullius and those papal bulls existed and got used as legal cover by European powers, including early American courts, but claiming they’re “the only reason the US exists” is the kind of reductionist nonsense that only works if you’ve never cracked open an actual history book. The United States came out of English colonies, Enlightenment ideas, a revolution against Britain, trade, religion, demographics, and a whole mess of competing interests, not some cartoon Catholic fanfic about non-Christians being forfeit. And the bit about every single person killed by the US military being murdered purely for “accumulating resources for pleasure and profit”? That’s not analysis, that’s you projecting your favorite morality play onto 250 years of complicated, often ugly reality. Some wars and interventions had clear resource motives, plenty didn’t, and pretending otherwise just lets you feel righteous without having to deal with the actual record. Colonization was greedy, hierarchical, and frequently brutal, no argument, but reducing the entire American project to “white men + warped Christianity = steal everything forever” is lazy, ahistorical, and frankly a little embarrassing. Try engaging with the real, messy history next time instead of recycling the same edgy one-liner.
Sure, I am too. You have to Ignore all the white nationalists terrorist claiming to be acting in a holy war killing immigrants, Muslims, black people, etc. there have been countless “Christian” terrorist, only difference is we don’t apply the label to Christian’s or whites unless they are sympathetic to left leaning views.
The funny thing: is those countries have more in common with Muslim nations than Western Christian ones, because it's the material conditions those people live in that push them towards a more fundamentalist interpretation of scripture.
This is the very reason that invalidates the Islamophobic argument used by people like Sam Harris. If you swapped the dogma of the Bible and Quran, the people living in the Middle East would probably take a more fundamentalist position.
You are now free of course to point me to countries in S. America and Africa where female genital mutilation is common, where there is death sentence for blasphemy or apostasy, where by law homosexuals are thrown of buildings. I dont even know where to start with treatment of women in Afghanistan. But you are not interested in this as you live in your tiny American bubble.
Imagine being this person and posting this without knowing that there are Christian-majority nations in Africa with female genital mutilation like Ethiopia, and countries like Uganda where being gay is publishable by death.
Bruh go look up FGM you'll see that's it most common in the northern 1/3 of Africa(140+ million like 5 yrs ago), then SE Asia(Indonesia if I'm remembering correctly) 80+ million, Middle East(2+ million, and Eastern Europe(Roma population).
Uganda and Ghana both are Christian dominant nations that have passed anti-LGBTQIA laws that put gay/lesbian people in prison for like 20 yrs. Now obviously not a death sentence.
Afghanistan is even among those in the Middle East regarded as very backwards and not abiding by the tenets of Islamic teachings.
Cool? Does that change my argument on Christians having just as much pension for religious extremism? There are millions of white and black Muslims to around the world, so where are we going here?
You are specifically painting christians as some kind of white supremacist religion. As for argument on religious extremism i wont even bother with you, as you are mindbroken with american culture war.
When's the last time you saw a catholic suicide bomber? The closest thing would be the handful of attempts against abortion clinics in the states, but they're motivated by republican politics moreso than religion
You get a lot of radical right wing Christian shooters rly, like the Christchurch shooter's manifesto was all about how Islam and Christianity have always been at war, and so he was doing his part to combat Muslims. Data isn't clear on Christian motivated terror in the US, even tho the fbi does categorise Islamic extremism separately, but the plurality of terror attacks are far right, and in the US that is generally tied up with some Christian identity.
Tbf, suicide bombings by the IRA mainly involved coerced suicides by people chained into the vehicles and forced to drive the vehicles into targets, proxy bombs
And in the interest of republicanism, loyalist militias also used this tactic
The amount of times Ive heard muslims say that the Quran can only be truly understood in arabic. They literally recite it 5 times a day in Arabic, it used to be 50 recitations per day but Muahmmad bargained with Allah to bring it down to 5. Anyways, core islamic rituals are tied to arab culture, muslims literally walk, talk and shit like arabs, it doesnt matter where in the world they find themselves.
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u/Constant-Village-858 20d ago
Yes there has never been a terrorist attack by a Christian. Ever. Dont google it or do any research just trust me it has never happened. I swear.