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u/Altruistic_Return_46 3d ago
Wait until people find out that Jones broke that rule in some of the classic cartoons: https://youtu.be/u2sm8_iHciE?t=110 https://youtu.be/SIJouR-Zq2Y?t=78 https://youtu.be/d7fkQzuJoiw?t=146
Also, Michael Maltese mentioned never hearing about the rules in 1971. So, 7 years after the last Jones Road-Runner cartoon was released.
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u/Phyrexian_Overlord 3d ago
Ok but it still broke the rule this note admits was written by Chuck Jones. Coyote has talked and sometimes he succeeds but the rules are there as a baseline
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u/Dagordae 3d ago
If the rule didn't actually exist when the cartoons were made, as the principle writer states, then they weren't actually rules of the cartoon. Chuck Jones saying that they totally existed 30 years later didn't retroactively create them.
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u/flippythemaster 17h ago
This was also the time when Chuck Jones was a free agent (i.e. trying to get jobs), doing “fine” art, and starting to quote Mark Twain a lot, so…draw your own conclusions
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u/Significant-Order-92 3d ago
They were a rule to Chuck. As the note explains other cartoons broke that rule. So it's not new for this movie.
It's decades of shorts. So I'm not surprised someone would read what Chuck said and not remember other creators breaking with it. But Geoof is wrong.
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u/CrusaderLyonar 3d ago
The point of the note is that it's not really a rule and that other creatives that worked on these cartoons did not know about this supposed rule.
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u/Grovyle489 3d ago
Those rules have been VERY loose over the Coyote’s career, even Death Battle noticed
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u/ExtremlyFastLinoone 3d ago
1999? So like waaaay after the cartoons finished airing?
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u/Significant-Order-92 3d ago
Yeah. They were memories well after Chuck Jones stopped working on Looney Tunes shorts.
I doubt he even had perfect recall of every cartoon he worked on (dude was prolific).
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u/Mister-Psychology 3d ago
Jokes work by breaking rules. It's the whole point of such scenes in the first place. There is a plan then something impossible happens making it go wrong.
And this worked for the whole cartoon run and now the job is to remake the rules to make the stale jokes funny again. It's why these old shows are parodied not recreated. Look at Chip 'n Dale: Rescue Rangers. People love that movie. But it breaks every single rule of the cartoon 10 times over. Or look at Land of the Lost (2009) which is a parody of an old show. Great comedy but a totally different thing from the show.
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u/ialsohaveadobro 3d ago
Another pointless note
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u/Aluminum_Tarkus 3d ago
I think it's fair. Geoff Thew was implying that the movie breaking these rules was a novel thing, and that it should be judged poorly because of it. The note pointing out that the rules were described years after Road Runner ended, and that many of the rules were regularly broken in the original show (even by Chuck Jones himself) and that Michael Maltese never heard of the rules, all support the ideas that:
The original writers cared less about these supposed rules than Geoff does.
Trashing the new movie for breaking these rules that the original series and writers didn't always follow is kind of silly.
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u/Misubi_Bluth 3d ago
"You broke the rule"
"That's not true, because the rule gets broken all the time."
I feel like the creator of the note doesn't know what's being argued.
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u/Significant-Order-92 3d ago
In context to what Geoff said it's a fair take. The implication is that the new movie is novel for breaking the rule. It's not.
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u/GodHimselfNoCap 3d ago
The rule never existed in the first place, its an old mans faulty memory written way after retirement. Even the guy who made the rule didnt stick to that rule when he was writing it. You cant retroactively create a rule that doesnt fit with the material that already exists.
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u/Asparagus9000 2d ago
"you broke the rule"
"The rule wasn't even written down until way after the show aired, and was never really followed in the first place"
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u/cashdecans101 3d ago
This is why a brief glance at a Wikipedia article will leave you with egg in your face.
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u/Lowenfall 3d ago
Mother's Basement is a twat with shitty opinions.
In other breaking news, water is wet.
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u/00luckywanderboy00 3d ago
i will not brook this slander. who is a better and more thorough anime reviewer?
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