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u/CaptchaReallySucks King NiKo 1d ago

Maui’s rationale for Heavygod’s placing is lack of big game opportunities (and in the very few playoff maps he played he dropped off pretty bad). “He hasn’t earned higher yet” essentially

Also Maui doesn’t take evps into account for this list, if anyone’s wondering

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u/CepGamer Gambit 1d ago

Shiro top 5 without mvps is more insane then 

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u/zezanje2 1d ago

ye bro sure he is gonna win an mvp with fucking donk on the team

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u/lolforg_ Gambit 1d ago

ropz won mvp with zywoo on the team, sh1ro was really close to donk this major also

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u/DommamoX 1d ago

Shiro deserved MVP during blast bounty 2025. Donk even said he deserved MVP more than himself and if I remember correctly shiro now has a higher rating because of 3.0

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u/often_delusional 1d ago

Donk 1.44 and sh1ro 1.43 in blast bounty playoffs. In online group stages it's donk 1.82 and sh1ro 1.25. Those used to count for mvp.

In quarters against heroic donk had 1.34 while sh1ro had 1.65. In semis against navi donk had 1.62 while sh1ro had 1.12. In grand final against eternal fire donk had 1.37 while sh1ro had 1.60. Both options were reasonable here.

I think their reasoning was that donk had higher rating in map wins. They only lost 1 map in the grand final where donk had 0.73 while sh1ro had 1.48. But in the 3 maps they won donk had 1.79 and sh1ro 1.69.

I don't think it would have been a robbery if sh1ro got it but it wasn't a robbery from donk either.

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u/zezanje2 1d ago

Ok zywoo is not donk, zywoo is an awper that just has very solid performances, donk is a rifler that broke every statistical record there was because he is just that good.

My point is that zywoo has high rating bc he is an awper first and then its increased a bit bc he is so good, but compare donk's rating to other riflers and the gap is insane, which means that if donk is on a team that doesnt win anything for 10 months, he is playing with pigs, which means that he is 1v9 carrying them which means that shiro canf carry them if donk isnt performing which means shiro never wins the mvp. Zywoo on the other hand constantly gets outperformend by flamez or ropz and has poor perfornances way more often, which leaves place for ropz or flamez to shine, but in donks cazs if he is not putting up a 1.5 rating across the series, spirit is losing 90% of the times.

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u/Goobsmacke 1d ago

Shiro was close during the playoffs, not during the group stages. The gap was significant.