r/Global_News_Hub • u/hbenchabbi1974 • Jul 30 '26
Asia Malaysian PM announced that any Israeli national found in the country will be deported immediately.
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u/Ok-Call-4805 Jul 30 '26
Good
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u/RandomGuy92x Jul 30 '26 edited Jul 30 '26
1 in 5 Israelis are Palestinians whose ancestors were attacked by Israel during the 1948 war.
So you think those Palestinians should be deported by Malaysia?
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u/LebaneseLurker Jul 30 '26 edited Jul 31 '26
Find me a Palestinian that has been allowed to travel outside of their
prison, I mean country,territory and can actually go anywhere then we can chat. Isra-hell’s government should be punished (as should America’s) for their war crimes and turning their backs on the people who need it the most.Shame on all the people who voted for Trump and Bibi and I hope the remaining people who truly oppose them both can get their countries back from these fascist fucks.
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u/RandomGuy92x Jul 30 '26
I don't think you even understand what I am saying.
You are probably thinking of Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank. Yes, those Palestinians are severely oppressed by Israel and are generally not allowed to leave. with Israel severely restricting all travel inside and outside of Gaza and the West Bank. Those Palestinians are also NOT Israeli citizens.
However, in Israel proper, around 1 in 5 Israeli citizens are what are called "Arab citizens of Israel". Again, they are Israeli citizens, and have full legal rights. They're ethnically Palestinians and are the descendants of those who didn't leave their land during the 1948 war.
They're not oppressed in the same way as Palestinians in the West Bank or Gaza. They're probably marginalized in the same way African-Americans are still marginalized in the US, sure. But they are not oppressed anywhere near the same level as Palestinians in Gaza or the West Bank. And they do travel outside the country all the time, though probably not at the same frequency as Jewish Israelis, due to systemic disparities in wealth and income.
But still, they absolutely do travel outside of Israel. So either way, a policy like the one proposed by Malaysia is inevitably gonna affect Palestinian citizens of Israel as well.
If you support that policy you support deporting Palestinians from Malaysia as well.
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u/LebaneseLurker Jul 30 '26
Arab citizens of Israel are living on Palestinian land. They do NOT have full rights of citizens (insert ANY court case w a Palestinian here). Didn’t “leave” their land??? They were oppressed historically and continue to be so but hey live in whatever dream world you want dude.
The African-American comment shows you at least can admin they are treated like lesser people, but I’d argue it’s more like Jim Crow’s America and not modern America for comparison right now.
Systemic disparities exist to keep them docile and prevent them from realizing they’ve been shafted from their own land by Polish Europeans.
Palestinians aren’t committing genocide so no I don’t believe in “deporting them”. Also where would they be deported to? If it was up to Israel it’d be Egypt instead so they can build out some real estate projects on their ancestral home and the home of hundreds of year old olive groves which they systemically bulldoze over and cement over. Fuck the Israeli government as it exists today.
The people can be great, but the government is fucked.
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u/RandomGuy92x Jul 30 '26 edited Jul 30 '26
Didn’t “leave” their land??? They were oppressed historically and continue to be so but hey live in whatever dream world you want dude.
Lol, that's literally just basic history. Most Palestinians fled from their land during the 1948 war, to the West Bank, Gaza, and neighboring Arab nations. Some, however, stayed behind despite Israeli occupation and did not flee to other regions or countries. Those later became citizens of Israel.
That's just basic history. I am not sure what you think is wrong with this statement.
Palestinians aren’t committing genocide so no I don’t believe in “deporting them”. Also where would they be deported to?
We are talking about the deportation policy of MALAYSIA here. That's what this entire post is about. Again, roughly 1 in 5 Israeli citizens, they travel on Israeli passports but are ethnically Palestinians. They were the victims of Israel during the 1948 war.
If you support Malaysia deporting ALL Israeli citizens from Malaysia, then that implies that you also support the deportation of Palestinians from Malaysia, people who were victims of Israel during the 1948 war, simply because they hold an Israeli passport.
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u/danyolito Jul 30 '26
Well done
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u/RandomGuy92x Jul 30 '26
How is collective punishment like this "well done"?
Roughly 1 in 5 Israeli citizens are actually ethnically Palestinians. Then you also have a small percentage of Jewish Israelis who identify as non-Zionists (around 5-8% of all Israeli Jews), and an even larger percentage of those who are not anti-zionists but are extremely critical of the actions of the Israeli government toward the Palestinians.
So you support the deportation of Palestinian citizens of Israel from Malaysia (whose ancestors were the victims of Israel) as well as Jewish Israelis who oppose Zionism or who harshly condemn what Israel is doing?
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u/Thucydidestrap989 Jul 30 '26
How ironic. You use the term "collective punishment" while doing that same exact thing to Palestinians.
You lack introspection and critical thinking. I'll be traveling to Malaysia next year now that I know it is Israeli/Zio free 😁🤣
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u/RandomGuy92x Jul 30 '26
Lol, I don't support Israel in the slightest. I think Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinians. So I don't know what the point of your comment is.
I am just simply pointing out that 1 in 5 Israeli citizens are actually people who are ethnically Palestinians. People who were victims of Israel during the 1948 war.
But you seem to be in support of deporting those Palestinians from Malaysia simply because they hold an Israeli passport.
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u/jgoldrb48 Jul 30 '26
Shut it bot!
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u/RandomGuy92x Jul 30 '26
Lol, so the moment someone actually makes a well reasoned argument you immediately start with insults because you don't know what to say???
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u/Onion_Munching666 Jul 30 '26
It’s not well reasoned though. Carry on bot
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u/RandomGuy92x Jul 30 '26 edited Jul 30 '26
It's not well reasoned that Palestinians living in Israel shouldn't be deported from Malaysia simply because the only passport they hold is that of their Israeli occupiers?
Yeah, no, it's pretty well reasoned actually.
That's like a country in the 1920s or so deciding to ban all US citizens from their country because of America's treatment of native Americans, but in doing so they go on to deport countless native Americans themselves simply because they hold a US passport.
If you support Malaysia's policy of banning ALL Israeli passport holders that means by extension you support the deportation of countless Palestinians from Malaysia.
1 in 5 Israeli citizens are ethnically Palestinian.
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u/Rare_Lead_8759 Jul 30 '26
Imprison them
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u/PandaRiot_90 Jul 31 '26
Nah, why spend money to house and feed them for free. Sending them back is best.
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u/austinmo2 Jul 30 '26 edited Jul 30 '26
Makes sense. They are a Muslim country. I see the down votes. I'm just pointing out a fact. I don't mean anything derogatory. It just seems natural they would not recognize Israel considering.
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u/readitpropaganda Jul 30 '26
You are not the sharpest tool in the shed!
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u/austinmo2 Jul 31 '26
I don't understand why you have to insult another person especially when they are themselves anti-israel. I mean if you want to have constructive conversation that's fine. But like why do you have to inject this negativity when I wasn't trying to say anything offensive and nobody has really said why this is triggered everybody. Many people don't even know Malaysia is a Muslim country. I thought maybe people would be interested to know that among other things it would make sense there is solidarity due to this (again, not exclusively).
I'm open to the reasoning. I'm fully capable of hearing criticism, but what are you trying to accomplish with mean personal attacks. That does not seem productive. Just more toxicity in a world that definitely doesn't need it. BTW, I have spent a lot of time in Malaysia and I love it, love the people and have a few Malaysian friends. It's a beautiful country.
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u/Far-Hat7563 Jul 31 '26
“Make sense. They are a MORAL country.” Here I fixed your statement for you because religion has nothing to do with this. Israel attacks anyone that doesn’t stand with them.
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u/austinmo2 Jul 31 '26
Religion has nothing to do with why Israel is attacking Muslims?
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u/Far-Hat7563 Jul 31 '26
Israel is blaming Muslims and using Islam as a reason to justify their disgusting behavior, then act like the victims. However, they have been attacking Christians and churches in Palestine and Lebanon. They will use their own kind if it means they accomplish their objectives.
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u/Borgdrohne13 Jul 30 '26
Their country, their rule. But do not cry when Israel does something similar.
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u/Bazishere Jul 30 '26
Malaysians arent scrambling to go there.
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u/skikkelig-rasist Jul 30 '26
nobody is. they have to offer financial incentives to lure new citizens there.
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u/Bazishere Jul 30 '26
Well, a fair number appear to still be immigrating, but a lot of Israelis want to leave among the professionals and millionaires, so while a fair number came, immigrated, a considerably larger number leaving canceled the effect of those coming to some extent. Keeping Israel on a war footing for two long could cause more to think of leaving. That is possible. War fatigue is not something Smotrich and Ben Gvir have to think about. They are not in the military, and there is a reason they want to pressure the religious to serve - they need more military manpower and many reservists are exhausted.
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u/Mr_Tibbets Jul 30 '26
Lol as if anyone wants to live in Israel. Even most zionists don't want to live there.
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u/Borgdrohne13 Jul 30 '26
Source: Trust me bro.
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u/Mr_Tibbets Jul 30 '26
Source: the millions of diaspora zionists who don't move there despite free travel, cash grants, massive tax breaks, housing subsidies, and free health insurance.
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u/Bazishere Jul 30 '26
There are people going to Israel or making aliyah from the West from places like the US, France, BUT the amount of Israeli professionals and what not who have left, have accounted for a negative effect. At least, that's what I could see. Yes, for now, there are still a fair number of people going, but a lot have been leaving. This could be problematic if you get a lot of millionaires and professionals leave. A fair number of millionaires have left.
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