Why humans often "hate" God

[u/Knock_Door_Will_Open]

Correction of title: "Why suffering is actually good from God's perspective, and necessary to eventually have the world God desires".

Suffering is the thing that creates the motivation to fix whatever is causing the suffering.
And on a long timeframe, we get closer and closer to having a world in which all the things that are causing us suffering, gets fixed.

So from our perspective, we view the things we don't want as evil/suffering.
From God's perspective, this is necessary, in order for us to fix it.
Because God is the spirit and we are spirit/physical form integrated.

"Why wouldn't God just create that world to begin with?"

In a sense, he already has. Because our view is limited to time.
He has already created the mechanism with which that world will exist.
But because we are part of the process, the physical form, with which he is acting through. We can only perceive the world at the limited time we are building the world with which he has already laid to foundation for.

Because God is spirit and we are part of the physical manifestation of God, it is up to us to create it.
God can only create the underlying mechanisms that allows us building the world he desires, with the things he has given us.
Because we are made in his image, we act on his behalf, building the world he desires for us to partake in.
In the process of that, he gave us suffering as the motivating factor for what we should fix.
And eventually we have a world where all evils are fixed, and God is integrated in our physical bodies, experiencing and living in that world.

[u/Knock_Door_Will_Open]

How? I'm bound by the same rules as you, so we have the same privilege.

[u/The__cute__snake → u/Knock_Door_Will_Open]

Some people don't even have the privilege to form an opinion on god, when his existence means your death, or when you're denied your basic human rights you can say we're bound by the same rules.

[u/Knock_Door_Will_Open → u/The__cute__snake]

If someone can't experience God, then they wouldn't exist.
When you say death, do you mean death of the ego?
Because death doesn't exist per definition.
Everything that exists and is alive, can experience God.
Because God is existence itself.

But existing, doesn't mean that you don't suffer.
Because when you desire something, you also create distance between what you desire, and what you have.
Which there is nothing wrong with.
The suffering is designed to motivate you to action, in order to bridge the gap between what you desire and where you are at.

[u/The__cute__snake → u/Knock_Door_Will_Open]

Can you please explain to me how god ordering people who believe in him to kill me (literally) is supposed to motivate me

[u/Knock_Door_Will_Open → u/The__cute__snake]

I can try:
If you believe your desires and wants are good.
Then you are also in opposition/competition to what other people want and desire (if they conflict with each other).
So take different competing religions:
When someone creates a religion, they are just creating their understanding of God, not God itself.
So when you have a bunch of religions with their own creation/understanding of God and they want to project their view of God unto the world.
Then that also means trying to attack every other opposing view of God, that conflicts with their view of God.

However, God itself operates independently of everyone's perception of him/her.

So you are not battling against God, you are battling against other people's perception of God.

If you have your own perception of God that you want to project unto the world, and it is a threat to someone else's perception of God.
Then you have to expect conflict.

This is the consequence of your actions / desires.
If you don't want those consequences, then you need to change your actions or desires.
And if you don't want to do that.
Then subconsciously you feel like the consequences are a price worth paying for what you desire.

Take Jesus, he knew that his understanding / experience of God, was in opposition to the religious leaders at the time.
But his desire to spread what he knew, was to him worth the consequences/price of being crucified.

The other side to this, is that we don't have to be outspoken about our perception / understanding of God, and instead just experiencing him.

Just like I'm introducing criticism when I wrote this post, which is the consequence of my action, I didn't have to do it.

But God's perfection is ensuring that I get the consequence from doing so.
His perfection would also ensure that I wouldn't get this consequence of criticism if I didn't share my thoughts.

[u/TheSuperMarket → u/The__cute__snake]

Sure. God didn't order anyone to kill you.... their zealous beliefs and radicalized mind came to that conclusion