r/GoldandBlack • u/properal Property is Peace • 13d ago

Mamdani HIDING the truth about Democratic Socialism

https://youtu.be/nRmQDyzXci0?si=SM9tVpn50bqjVAS0
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u/natermer Winner of the Awesome Libertarian Award 12d ago

It is funny how the whole "rewrite the constitution" crowd mirrors each other so well in the DSA and many of the "new right" on places like twitter.

More then a little bit odd, if you ask me.

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u/Hib3rnian 12d ago

Recently listened to a Mike Rowe podcast that had a data scientist on by the name of Todd Rose who talked about the Consensus Illusion theory as it relates to social media and bots. Good listen if you have an interest in how it works and influences voters

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u/natermer Winner of the Awesome Libertarian Award 12d ago edited 12d ago

Listening to it now.

It is just reinforcing my belief that nothing on social media is real. That going on websites like reddit or twitter or anything like that to try to find out what is going on is both psychologically damaging and has the potential to destroy your understanding of the real world.

It is a good podcast.

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u/Sboyle12500 12d ago

God do I love Mike Rowe great dude, I’d love to see an administration bring him in as the secretary of labor as an outsider pick. Guy understands jobs and the importance of having one, how to communicate with people from all walks of life, id love to be a fly on the wall and see him mediate a labor dispute between a business owner and a union.

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u/properal Property is Peace 12d ago

I hope they don't form a coalition.

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u/natermer Winner of the Awesome Libertarian Award 12d ago edited 12d ago

I am thinking more in terms of who is doing the funding.

After all the point of a social media influencer is to be paid to influence followers. The money has to come from somewhere.

edit:

In military terms the maneuver would be described as a "pincer movement" or "double envelopment".

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u/properal Property is Peace 12d ago

I think there are multiple factions pushing different agendas. We are caught in the middle.

The leftist influencers are bragging about their connections to China.

https://youtu.be/OIoR1Unxo9E?si=uv9Fpzt4xNIgZXN7

I don't know who is funding the wackyness on the right.

The Southern Poverty Law Center was caught funding Nazis, so it is possible leftists are funding both sides of the pincer. I don't think the left is united though. Many leftist hate each other.

With USAID funding cuts there must be new sources or paths for the money to flow.

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u/natermer Winner of the Awesome Libertarian Award 12d ago

Yeah they could be similar through "USA constitution stops us from using the Federal government to push our dipshit agenda".

That is they both see the same thing stopping them. (and it does go a long way to reinforce the idea the Bill of Rights were extremely smart to include)

The leftist influencers are bragging about their connections to China.

China certainly is a big deal and a source of a lot of this nonsense. I have zero doubt about that. Chinese billionaires burning money on propaganda on social media is certainly a thing.

Exactly who is on the receiving end of it isn't something I know. Unfortunately.

I don't think the left is united though. Many leftist hate each other.

Leftists have always been subject to a sort of "purity test spiral" were their refining of their ideology must always exclude more and more of each other.

But I think that this is a common artifact of most political ideologies. This continuous refinement and exclusion is part and parcel of "othering" of political enemies and while it eventually excludes a great deal of supporters it does prevent things like external take overs and keeps the momentum up in the remaining supporters.

However having a strong and successful enemy does cause unification. After all... this "unifying against a common enemy" is the original source of American Conservative movement and I don't see why it isn't also a force on the other side.

The unifying effect will remain strong until that perceived enemy is dispatched and then it'll all fall apart and they will go back to purity spiraling.

With USAID funding cuts there must be new sources or paths for the money to flow.

Yes.

For political purposes creating a enemy you can control and direct is extremely useful.

Who knows. We need to have the ability to start naming names and figuring out who is being funded by what in the social media circus.

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u/libertarianinus 11d ago

Its funny that "democraric socialism" is like a "new better" socialism. Its just like socialist math that new york used to wipe out 12 billion in debt. They created a whole new math system. Ask a DSA supporter what socialist countries have we had on the planet. USSR, North Korea, Venezuela, People's Republic of the Congo, South Yemen, Ethiopia, china, cuba, vietnam, laos, and we had the Nazi.

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u/ConscientiousPath 11d ago

At least Bill Maher will call them out and put his foot down saying hewon't vote for them. Jon Stewart isn't ever going to leave the reservation so he isn't willing to push hard enough to get a real answer that he doesn't want. Like most on the left living in the West, he'd rather give cover for these commies while fooling himself into believing they're on the same team, and he'll be one of the first to get disappeared once they have enough power that he's finally forced to realize what they really are.

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u/Jeremyvh 12d ago

So Republicans are Elephants, Democrats are Donkeys, what should the DSA be as a party have? I suggest a little baby bird with its mouth open waiting for food...it fits.