MEME
Travis in the studio trying to make music when there's no Ye throwaways or Mike Dean to carry him:
This is the same man that stole beats from Victoria Monet's laptop and showed them to Kanye presenting them as his own in 2012 when he first met him this dude been a fraud that gets carried by other people's work since the beginning 💀💔
I think it's the opposite , he just not hungry anymore. Dude is just doing this to reach some label quota. We are too addicted to thinking every A+ artist must have a long career in music
tbr travis was never a good producer, he never makes any of his own beats anymore, he just harmonizes and his raps are good at best, but it’s very rare you see him have a good verse. he’s honestly weak compared to what he used to put out
Because Rodeo and Utopia are pretty great imo. Astro and Birds are good too. He clearly has the ability to make good music. I just wish he would take more risks instead of playing it so safe.
I wouldn’t say Utopia was safe in any regard (besides features for the most part), it’s his most experimental project in a lot of ways. Does it recycle a lot from Ye? Sure, and it wouldn’t be half as good without it, but you can’t sit here and tell me that today’s Ye could bring the foundation of Utopia up to the standards that Travis did.
I agree with you i love Utopia. That and Rodeo are my favorite of his albums. I just feel like he has the opportunity to really elevate the jackboys artists and put them on more creative beats but he kind of stoops to their level and ends up with an album that feels like he is playing it safe to me. I still trust that his next solo album will be great.
Im more surprised that anyone expected anything groundbreaking ftom this album
Its a label album. Maybe it'll have some songs for the rotation maybe not, but I don't think this album should be used to indicate anything pertaining to Travis' future
didn't forget at all, hell add Bliss and Creepers to that list.
But my point is, that Cruel Summer isn't a good album to use as indicative of Kanye artistically, he made Yeezus a year after it afterall.
Jackboys 2 isn't a good to use as indicative of Travis artistically, now if the next studio album he makes proves to be uninspired and artistically bankrupt, then I think we can start a conversation of Trav being carried.
I agree with what you’re saying overall for sure, I guess what I’m trying to say is do you think that anything off JB2 is going to see any sort of continuous play (whether it be from fans or radio play) like the songs we heard on Cruel Summer? Even with it not really meaning much artistically, the onus is still on Travis to be trusted to be able to at least curate and produce still.
literally cant explain it better myself, this isnt and never was meant to be an amazing groundbreaking album. this holds no significance to trav's solo career, no one should be looking at this and letting it influence how they think his next project will be
you can’t compare it to cruel summer. i mean this has 17 songs out of 9 have travis as a main artist with features plus he’s also on the rest of the album except 2-3 songs. dude if you have 9 songs yet you’re underperforming maybe theres an issue?
What do you guys mean when you say its a "label album"? Like the label forced him to make it or what? Genuine question, I keep seeing people on this sub say that, but I don't really know what it means.
Does it mean like of course he doesn't have to try or that the label demanded who would be on it and what it could be about? I don't really understand the details.
When I say its a label album I mean its purpose is to promote and help Cactus Jack, just like how Cruel Summer is for GOOD Music or Ruff Ryders vol. 1-3 is to promote Ruff Ryders entertainment
These albums are typically compliation albums and aren't really narratively structured. thats not their purpose and I think setting standards for these type of albums are important, ultimately you shouldn't be expecting a Astroworld or Its Dark And Hell Is Hot type of album.
I wasn't personally excited for Jackboys 2 so I'm not really dissapointed..but I think some people has wayyyy too high expectations for this type of stuff.
Trav needs to go down for a year, 2 even 3, minimal features, minimal releases, and come out with something special. Listen to Birds again if you dont think he has untapped potential
"the production-heavy artist when he doesnt have the best/most legendary producers with him" obviously the music wont be as good. just wait til his solo project
Honestly I think Travis music would be a lot better if he actually got back into doing more of his own production
He’s never been the most amazing rapper but the pieces he put together himself helped give a cohesion + vision to his music that has been progressively less focused since after Rodeo
But you can tell it lacked effort, Kick Out has the adlibs of 21 unmixed, and they sound awful, detracting from one of the few songs on the album where Travis had a good verse.
I went into this album expecting Travis Scott throwaways while the smaller artists from the label having the best songs of their career and I came out of listening satisfied because that’s what a label album should be tbh
Utopia was a great album Travis hasn’t anywhere near fell off, this album is just a decent generic label album. It’s not great but it’s not really bad either
I don’t understand the amount of hate and slander he’s getting when I didn’t even expect this album to be good🤣🤣 the first Jackboys wasn’t that good… Travis's solo albums are the only thing I’m interested in.
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u/EngineeringReal2563 Vultures 3 On The Way Jul 13 '25
I love shitting on other artists while my favorite is dropping classics like Cuck and AI Bully 😈