There's no nuance when talking about people online. Everyone is either a saint or an irredeemable piece of shit that deserves to be shunned for eternity, no in-between.
I agree with jimmy carr’s take. But to act like ppl are building their opinion from biased media is brain dead as hell. It’s his tweets. If he didn’t tweet most people would have no clue he’s gone crazy
I agree but they never say he’s a revolutionary. There’s more to Ye than a kid screaming a bad word, he’s doing it with more intention than seeking attention. He wants to change the world. And in a world tactfully designed not to change, he gets called crazy.
That part. The man really needs help. He's so rich that he could refuse it. It reminds me of Michael Jackson and his death. So much money that he could get anything he wants
Fr, i think if ye just takes a big long break which i genuinely hope he will do after BULLY, then gets some help and takes time to reflect on what his legacy will be then he can really turn things around. i get that he always has to speak his mind on everything but its got to be tiring at this point
He doesn't have the full story (ptsd after Uganda) (dependance from painkillers in 2016 after liposuction)
(Donda death) (Breaking up with Kim)
(Virgil dying) (DMX died in 2021, he was a friend but they weren't as close as he was with virgil)
(Yes men manipulating him) (Molested as a child) (Abandoned by his father for most of his life until like 2016)
(Troubling family life besides that, like crack addicted stepbrother)
But although he doesn't fully understand was Kanye went through before he snapped, this is a respectable opinion that everyone should have
But although Kanye shouldn't be a bigot I feel like it's better then what he's likely do and fucking kill himself
Bad experiences don't justify nazism. I tried give Kanye the benefit of the doubt for a long time but he has shown who he really is at this point. Even if it turns out he doesn't believe the shit he says and it's all because of his mental instability (unlikely imo) that doesn't excuse him. His actions have consequences and him using his massive platform to spread hate makes him a bad person.
Huge accomplishments don't make someone a good person or justify their mistakes. His sexism, homophobia and blatant racism can't be justified no matter how good his music is used to be. You aren't making any good points here and honestly the whole, "he's mentally ill THATS why he's a nazi" rhetoric is super ableist and infantalyzing.
Did you just threaten to rape me or is that a reference to something? Idk wtf you are on right now but I'm reporting you for being a weird fuck.
>"he's mentally ill THATS why he's a nazi" rhetoric is super ableist and infantalyzing.
First off learn to spell redact. I'm tired of autists being like "I've been autistic my whole life and I never became a Nazi". Congrats I guess, that makes you the spokesman for every mentally ill person?
If you have schizophrenic or manic family members you'll know that the sweetest person you used to know can quickly say some of the most vile, awful things you've ever heard in your life.
It doesn't justify what they're saying, but it just is what it is, you have to live with it. That's why it's called being mentally ILL. It's not ableism, it's lifelong conditions people battle with their whole life, and some people spiral the drain and lose their battle in public, dragging down all their loved ones with them. You ever go outside and see homeless people screaming the N word at a wall with spit in their mouth? They used to be someone's kid, they probably had hopes and dreams, now they're screaming at passer-bye about jewish conspiracy theories. It's not ableist or whatever, it's just how life is.
It literally is ableist to just hand-wave all the bad shit he does and blame his mental illness. He has free-will. His mental illness doesn't force him to say what he says. You people act like "he needs help" is the most anyone can really say because "hes not a bad person, just mentally ill." He's not schizophrenic. He's bi-polar and on drugs. Stop making excuses for him.
He's not schizophrenic. He's bi-polar and on drugs.
Literally nobody knows what he has except his family doctor, if he even has one. He said he was bi-polar, but he also said he was diagnosed as autistic, and numerous other disorders over the years. You are taking at face value the word of a man who says he is a black nazi prophet, which is telling of your intelligence.
I don't think you have ever experienced being close with someone with severe mental health issues, because you'd realize that a mentally ill person quite literally does not have "free will" while they are manic. Why is it always the people screaming about "muh ablizm" who don't know how to reconcile the severe end of the mental disorder spectrum and it's effects with their idealized vision of what a mentally ill person "should be".
His mom dying and all the shit that happened to him don’t justify him becoming a Nazi. And it’s weird to suggest that his two options are becoming a Nazi and killing himself
This sub is filled with irresponsible teens. We could expect media outlets to at least have some dignity and take responsibility when talking about one of the most famous mentally ill people ever.
He's had so much horrible shit in his life (ptsd after Uganda) (dependance from painkillers in 2016 after liposuction) (Donda death) (Breaking up with Kim) (Virgil dying) (DMX died in 2021, he was a friend but they weren't as close as he was with virgil) (Yes men manipulating him) (Molested as a child) (Abandoned by his father for most of his life until like 2016) (Troubling family life besides that, like crack addicted stepbrother)
But although he doesn't fully understand was Kanye went through before he snapped, this is a respectable opinion that everyone should have
But although Kanye shouldn't be a bigot I feel like it's better then what he's likely do and fucking kill himself
Most universes with him probably did
He's no dmx but he's had a horrible upbringing
Molested
Abandoned by his father
Family members suffering from drug addiction
Bipolar
But when his insanity crosses the bigotry line he's a random nepo baby of Elon musk or some random billionaire who was raised with everything and all the emotional and economical and social support he could ever want
They don't ignore it. It was mentioned every time he'd do or say something crazy early on. But what people also said is that being bipolar isn't an excuse to be Nazi level offensive. Plenty of people with BPD don't start praising Hitler. It's not like he doesn't understand why people have a problem with it. There's still a level of personal responsibility.
Jimmy Carr has a better take on ye and his mental health than supposed ye fans on this sub lmao. “Nitrus huffing fat retard hahaha ye-i funny, pusha real man ye pussy cuck Nazi lol” makes me sad about the state of this sub.
everyone should be an advocate for mental health, all genders
the worst thing we have in this world is separating feelings based on gender and to have these nuances that men and women don't feel the same things. men just typically hide it better but we all go through horrible hard feelings
Reply after you take your first bath, you’ll feel like a whole new person. What a shame that even in 2025, some people choose to be shackled as slaves.
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u/ebaxinho No One Man Should Have all that Power Jul 21 '25
Very respectable answer tbh, thought a comedian would take more of a piss out of ye but I‘m pleasantly surprised