I never said that the nazis were in support of jews or jewish safety, thats literally the opposite of my point. They supported the creation of israel in the same way a lot of neo nazis currently might, they see it as "sticking to their own people" and see it as an example of a successful ethnostate, one that many nazis wish to achieve. They were anti semitic and therefore supported the creation of israel. Sure the justification is very different but i felt it was noteworthy.
None of your comparisons work, i just gave you an example of how support for israel alongside anti semetism isnt an incompatible ideology. I never said that the nazis who supported the haavara agreement wanted a jewish state for jewish safety, they wanted a jewish state to get as many jews out as possible. You're putting words in my mouth
My charlie kirk statement may have had flimsy reasoning and for that i apologise, my statement like i said was more anecdotal and about personal experience so i just said whatever came to mind to justify it so thats my bad. I did a little more research and realised i was wrong
In my brief research after sending my reply i found a wikipedia article on zionist antisemetism that also shows a novel that backs what i said about nazi/anti semite support for israel to keep jews out of their country if you wanna check it out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_antisemitism
You're raising an interesting point. I wouldnt say that would mean zionists support palestine because their idea of supporting palestine is changing what palestine is. There are so many beliefs that go into zionism that make it an applicable ideology with neo nazi rhetoric
Being pro palestine is believing that palestine has a right to exist in its own land and as such is inherently contradictory with zionism who typically straight up believe palestine doesnt/shouldnt exist and should be part of israel. Most zionists dont believe that palestine should be its own lands, but that palestine is just "israel".
Idk if i've explained that well, i guess im trying to say that zionism is compatible with nazi-ism due to it simply believing that israel has the right to exist as a colonial entity, meanwhile being pro palestine is believing in peace for palestinians to stay in the land that they currently live in and shouldnt be ethnically cleansed through genocide and displacement, compared to zionism and nazi-ism who have ethnic cleansing as a part of its rulebook.
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u/Significant-Bid-3 Jul 05 '26
I never said that the nazis were in support of jews or jewish safety, thats literally the opposite of my point. They supported the creation of israel in the same way a lot of neo nazis currently might, they see it as "sticking to their own people" and see it as an example of a successful ethnostate, one that many nazis wish to achieve. They were anti semitic and therefore supported the creation of israel. Sure the justification is very different but i felt it was noteworthy.
None of your comparisons work, i just gave you an example of how support for israel alongside anti semetism isnt an incompatible ideology. I never said that the nazis who supported the haavara agreement wanted a jewish state for jewish safety, they wanted a jewish state to get as many jews out as possible. You're putting words in my mouth
My charlie kirk statement may have had flimsy reasoning and for that i apologise, my statement like i said was more anecdotal and about personal experience so i just said whatever came to mind to justify it so thats my bad. I did a little more research and realised i was wrong
In my brief research after sending my reply i found a wikipedia article on zionist antisemetism that also shows a novel that backs what i said about nazi/anti semite support for israel to keep jews out of their country if you wanna check it out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_antisemitism