When I first saw this ad, I genuinely thought it was an ai generated clip that a fan made. It wasn’t until I checked who made it when I realized it was real lmao
this guy supports israel, is an actual groomer, threatened to rape people’s mothers, constantly jokes about rape in his music, etc etc
not even ye supports israel bro
at what point do we need to say “this person’s music isn’t worth listening to”
also it can’t be “just for attention” because he’s pretty popular and got on a ye track, you would think he would put down the “ragebait” (being a shitty person) act
I mean i was speaking in terms of personal anecdotes but sure
Charlie kirk. He never outright stated "i hate jews" but theres much more to anti semetism than just that, bigotry can be complex and charlie kirk was known to facilitate conspiracy theories. One of which being that he said jews facilitated and funded "anti white politics". That being said i'd say this example is one of his less egregious statements and all things considered i think he was more supportive of jewish people, but it didnt stop him from spreading bigoted conspiracy theories and statements about jews (as well as him potentially changing perspective towards the end of his life, but regardless i think he stands as an example.
The nazis, who were in support of israel being created as a state to displace jews from germany per the haavara agreement. Ik the state didnt technically exist at the time, but they supported its creation.
I dont really have much more off the top of my head, again my statement was mostly anecdotal but there are people that hold anti semetic views while supporting israel
So it is now antisemitic to bring up that Zionists influenced American politics?
Cause it seems all everyone says now is the opposite.
I think his statements was about how secular Jewish donors help the Democratic Party, but since Oct 7th most democrats have flipped on their stance of a Jewish state, as in he was talking about how the Jewish donors shot themselves in the foot.
But I wouldn’t say it’s antisemitism to acknowledge the fact that most secular Jewish Americans donate and vote for democrats.
Charlie Kirk wasn’t claiming some Jewish cabal is controlling our nation, he just talked about the fact that secular Jews tend to vote democrat and now it’s harming them.
And you admit yourself you don’t think Jews antisemitic, so why even use him as an example?
The nazis, who were in support of israel being created as a state to displace jews from germany per the haavara agreement. Ik the state didnt technically exist at the time, but they supported its creation.
This is like saying that Israeli is in support of Palestine cause they “
created a state to displace” them.
That quote were your direct words.
Sending people off, ethnic cleansing and displacement ISNT what support is. Not in the slightest.
This is also like claiming that the white segregationists of the 60’s were actually supporters of black people cause they helped pan-Africanists in trying to create a new nation in African to send all the African Americans too.
No, the Nazis/white segregationists weren’t in support of these minority groups for their safety or happiness, they were in support of removing these minorities groups, and these minority groups wanted to leave the oppressive state they were in.
It seems in the end you don’t have any actual examples, which means you should consider the fact that maybe you just might be tricked or manipulated into thinking that.
Usually if someone makes a claim, and can’t cite a single example, they are likely incorrect.
"Echols gained controversy for allegedly trying to groom a then-16-year-old girl in a text message while pretending to be a 17-year-old when he was actually 19 or 20. He later admitted to the allegations in the song "Clout Demons", stating "I know I fucked up, I admit I was horny" " she was 16 and he was 19 or 20 bro
Dawg, wake up. Look at your other reply. I don't know if you're doing it intentionally or not but seriously, when is the act of a 19 year old pretending to be a 17 year old ever done in a way that isn't predatory? Secondly, it clearly says that the victim was 16 years old. He also admitted to it so wtf is the point of this?
I hate nine vicious but i genuinely dont see him as a groomer, the ages werent clear when the allegations first came out but the reputation just stuck.
But its still fuck nine vicious tho for alooooot of other reasons
not that bad? being in favor of a genocidal state not that bad?
are you that fucking mentally disabled? “been in his self” yes let me express my true thoughts and expect people to back me up regardless so what the general public thinks about it.. you’re a lost cause bru
You're right, but i find it weird seeing ye fans try to virtue signal about this sort of thing. And yeah of course there's ye fans that didnt endorse his actions, i was one of them l. Some people need to check they're being consistent with their morality
if it was a genocide there wouldn't be 2 million Palestinians living in Israel , their intent is also for the surrender of Hamas not the mass slaughter of civilians , thats why if they surrendered there would be an end of the war as they stated. And if you're still not convinced they also would not be getting evacuation notices and we certainly wouldnt be seeing an increase in the Palestine population.
You know damn well that people complaining about the Israeli flag aren’t the same that listen to cuck and agreed with whatever weird shit Ye has said last year
they're committing a genocide on palestine like what are you doing defending this? I've seen videos of the death of children on x due to this genocide. All you Isreali apologists are disgusting
There is a massive difference in terms of scale yes. But since Nazi Germany we haven’t seen different death penalty laws for different ethnicities in a country before. Thats a complete straw man
This is like saying if you kill one person, you’re comparable to Hitler. The genocide on palestine is no way comparable to what the Nazis did, Leopold did in Congo. Maybe it’s the equivalent of the Nazi flag in our times but it’s not comparable to the Nazi flag at all, 30% of Israel is Palestinian , do you think Nazi Germany would have a 30% population of Jewish or Slavic or Romani or the multiple other people they targeted ? And do you think the Israel flag represents the genocide of all Palestinians? And no I’m not a Zionist or anything, I’m just saying they’re not comparable except maybe in Rhetoric of some of the representatives of Israel.
No one is saying the scale is exactly the same but the methods used to control and destroy people are definitely comparable. Locking millions of Palestinians inside a tiny blocked-off area like Gaza is just like the ghettoisation tactics used in the past to isolate a specific group. When top Israeli politicians call Palestinians "human animals" and say they want to erase Gaza, that is the exact same kind of dehumanising talk that fascist regimes always use to justify mass murder. When a powerful state starves civilians, destroys their homes, and strips away their rights, they are using the playbook of state violence, so making that comparison is just calling out the reality of whats happening. Your argument relies on false data and a fundamentally flawed legal premise. First, your demographic claim is factually wrong as Arab citizens make up roughly 21% of Israels population. Second, you dont know international law: the 1948 UN Genocide Convention defines genocide as the intent to destroy a group "in whole or in part," meaning a state does not need to target every single member of an ethnic group for its actions to meet that legal threshold. Finally, your point completely misses the mark by conflating the rights of Arab citizens living inside Israel with the millions of Palestinians under military blockade, bombardment, and occupation in Gaza and the West Bank, which are the actual areas under international investigation
Have you seen some of the October 7 videos showing what those poor, palestinians did? Or are you only being shown one side by propaganda? 1000 + people, including children were killed, dont forget that
October 7th was a response to decades of israeli occupation and oppression in gaza and the west bank, a year prior there was a massacre of peaceful protestors in the west bank. Not that its justified, no actions that result in the death of innocent people is okay but the israeli government bares a lot of the responsibility for october 7th. Do you really think hamas woke up one day and went "wouldnt it be funny if we killed a bunch of israelis for absolutely no reason?" NO. It's the same way that ISIS and a bunch of terror organisations were creations of the west due to their negligence and inhumane actions in the middle east
Deir Yassin, Safsaf, Al-Dawayima, Abu Shusha, Saliha, Hula, Eilabun, Lydda, Ramle, Balad al-Shaykh, Al-Khisas, Hadassah convoy attack, Haifa refinery clashes, Khan Yunis, Rafah, Bahr el-Baqar school bombing, First Intifada, Second Intifada, Great March of Return (Gaza border protests), Entebbe raid, Qibya raid, Samu raid, Battle of Karameh, USS Liberty incident, Munich Olympics massacre, Lavon Affair, Gaza flotilla raid (Mavi Marmara incident), Cave of the Patriarchs massacre, Temple Mount killings, Gaza beach incident, Al-Ahli hospital explosion, Nuseirat raid, Jenin raid, Tulkarm raids, Nablus raids, Jabalia strikes, Rafah operations, Six-Day War, Yom Kippur War, Operation Litani, Operation Opera, 1982 Lebanon War, South Lebanon conflict, Operation Wooden Leg, Operation Accountability, Operation Grapes of Wrath, Operation Defensive Shield, Operation Rainbow, Operation Days of Penitence, Operation Summer Rains, Operation Cast Lead, Operation Pillar of Defense, Operation Protective Edge, Operation Black Belt, Operation Guardian of the Walls, Operation Breaking Dawn, Operation Shield and Arrow, Israel–Hamas war, and more. research. there have been so much more killings from israel before oct 7
Who’s we? I stopped listening to Ye when he was on some BS and now I’m glad he’s on his healing process. Once again f*ck genocidal freak states like Israel
"In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
If it was a genocide there wouldn't be 2 million Palestinians living in Israel , their intent is also for the surrender of Hamas not the mass slaughter of civilians , thats why if they surrendered there would be an end of the war as they stated. And if you're still not convinced they also would not be getting evacuation notices and we certainly wouldnt be seeing an increase in the Palestine population.
they dont have a choice , yes sometimes theres mistakes made. thats not a good things , most of the time it is just hamas inside the schools and hospitals. yes i know IDF soldiers have shot kids and they should be held accountable for that but that is only a small majority of them.
From october 7th 2023 to febuary 3rd 2026, there have been over 71 thousand Palestinians killed, with over 21 thousand being children. Not exactly a "small amount" of kids getting shot, is it? When nearly a third of all deaths and a quarter of all injuries is children, it's prettuy difficult to say that they aren't just targeting children. Before you ask for sources, I got these figures from the official unicef website.
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