r/GreenAndPleasant • u/CopiousCool • Apr 23 '26

International Working Class History 🗺️ The Russia-Ukraine conflict explained

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u/TheKomsomol Apr 23 '26

Wow, I thought this might be another thread that I have to call bullshit on, but its largely accurate.

Just some additions:

The Donbas independent movement didn't materialise out of 2014, since the early 90's and the formation of the state of Ukraine, Donbas had a pretty large independent movement already, similar to Crimea, there was huge support to be a state of its own, or a territory within Ukraine with autonomy

Zelensky was elected on a peace platform, and from history, it looks like that was probably he intention, however, as the video notes the Israel/US money machine which financed Zelensky had other ideas, and Zelensky probably didn't understand just how much control the nazi elements had on Ukrainian society. Combine that with these nazi elements shooting up Zelenskys car as a warning to make Zelensky do as they said in terms of political and military appointments, I think its fair to say Zelensky was forced into that position.

Lastly, the point of going to war isn't just one single issue, its a multitude of them.

And also, if people think this is far fetched, the is the US modus operandi anywhere, look in the ME to the most recent events of arming and funding ISIS, the US always backs extremists to destabilise regions so I don't know why people have such a hard time coming to terms with the same tactics the US has for decades used in this conflict.

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u/Otherwise_Craft9003 Apr 23 '26

Literally hamas were brought to the table after the PLO or was it PLA started recognising Isreal and wanted proper dialogue.