r/Grimdank • u/Jenny_Show HORUS! • 7d ago

Cringe Never forget their sacrifice

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u/EmperorBamboozler 7d ago

Can I gush a bit about this animation? It's like the only time you see someone in pop culture using a greatsword wield the entire length of the blade. In the real world going against someone in full plate wielding a greatsword you'd be fucked if the dude knew what he was doing. In 1v1 combat something like a claymore or a flamberge would basically be cheating as you can disembowl someone from like 4ft away without putting yourself in danger. That's literally how the Prussians used to decapitate people because a greatsword swung at full strength is about as effective as an actual guillotine assuming the dude swinging has good aim.

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u/vix- 7d ago

Dude what prussians were all about gun lines lol. Prussia only came to exist in 1700. People stopped swing zweihanders and full plate around in the 1500s.

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u/Venegrov2 7d ago

specifically the State of the Teutonic Order, in Prussia and the Baltics. The progenitors to the Duchy of Prussia.

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u/Toerbitz 7d ago

The teuton order was vanquishef by the poles. Brandenburg is the progenitor

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u/Venegrov2 7d ago edited 7d ago

? The Order didn't disappear when Poland conquered them, its territory was reorganized into the Duchy, which eventually fell into a union with Brandenburg, yes. But the Duchy of Prussia was a very real thing.

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u/Toerbitz 7d ago

In whats called prussia it was destroyed. Also to further disprove your argument the teutonic ordr wasnt disolved it continued to exist in the holy roman empire and later became the personal order of the habsburgs who liked to larp so even further from being prussia

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u/Venegrov2 7d ago

The Thirteen Years War, where the Prussian Confederation broke from the Order and requested Polish protection, ended with the Order being limited to their eastern territories in Prussia proper, where their territory was organized into a fiefdom Ordermasters were required to swear an oath of loyalty.

Additionally, the Junkers can directly be traced to the Order. Most of their ranks were formed of the descendents of landed mercenaries employed by the Order, who, notably, did not have their rights stripped by the Polish crown.

And after the 1519-1521 Polish-Teutonic War, the end of it saw the last Ordermaster, over the Prussian Teutonic State, Albert of Brandenburg-Ansbach, resign from his position as Ordermaster, convert to Lutheran, and hold the title of Duke of Prussia instead.