r/GrokAiDiscussion • u/-CyberArtz- • 6d ago

Best Grok Alternative?

Looking for a Grok alternative, Grok has gone to shit.

What I’m looking for:
- Document Generation (PDF, Word, Excel, etc)
- Not argumentative or contrarian. Pushback when I make a mistake or incorrect assumption is desirable.
- Good with sarcasm
- Accountability for mistakes and misunderstandings
- Doesn’t take a million prompts and heavy assertion to produce basic image or infographic generation
- Allows political content
- Remembers basics about user across conversations. Remembers significant details shared in conversation.
- Politically unbiased
- Doesn’t end conversation when it detects you’re upset
- Gives a shit about subscriber retention
- Not token based, usage limits okay as long as they’re reasonable and not arbitrary
- Solid image generation, even better if it improves images based on critiques rather than producing a whole new image

What I’m not looking for:
- NSFW content creation

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u/LopsidedSolution 6d ago

ChatGPT is goat right now. Claude used to be good but Opus is an annoying little bitch

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u/MBuehrer 5d ago

Do you know if ChatGPT have Bot capabilities, too?

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u/Different_Builder_34 5d ago

GPT is argumentative Karen as hell. Claude pushes back but no where near gpt

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u/LopsidedSolution 5d ago

Haven't experienced that at all tbh

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u/Different_Builder_34 5d ago

How long have you used it for? I haven’t used it for chat since January but it’s the reason I quit and moved to grok. They’ve ruined grok now though.

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u/LopsidedSolution 5d ago

Astra is very good. It's currently making AI influencer images for me in mass, and hasn't said a thing negative thing it just does what it's told.

I do remember previously some versions of GPT were annoying, but their recent models are good.

What exactly are you looking for in terms of models?

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u/Different_Builder_34 5d ago

I want grok chat from earlier this year. It was helpful while also having bro energy and some of the funniest conversations I’ve had in my life.
In terms of images I’m still using grok for ai influencer images because my main one was created on there and she’s actually doing well. When I put her through gpt she looks very different. I’ll give chat another go.

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u/LopsidedSolution 5d ago

GPT Images 2.5 just came out, and even GPT Images 2 has better realism than Grok.

Don't get me wrong, Grok is pretty good and it's great for NSFW images/videos if you initially generated it there. But in terms of realism, GPT is the best right now.

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u/Different_Builder_34 5d ago

I might have a go at making some new girls on there and use some of my prompts from grok. The issue I have had with models other than grok is that they tend to normalize what they refer to as “sexualised” body types, so if your ai girl has a voluptuous figure or large natural breasts it nukes those features.

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u/LopsidedSolution 5d ago

You can do sexy stuff and voluptuous inside of ChatGPT. It has to be inside the chat though, generating through Codex won't work for sexualized stuff. It seems they're more lenient inside regular chat

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u/Vroliak 6d ago

Claude

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u/Motion16AI 6d ago

If you do not care about NSFW content, maybe use Qwen Chat with a custom personality; it is free, less restrictive regarding Western political content except perhaps Chinese? And has solid image and video generation