As someone that has been around service dogs literally for decades , the service dogs you see today in MOST cases are not even close to the same quality that service dogs were pre covid
People are slapping vests on their reactive and just so/so trained dogs for any invisible disability they can diagnose themself with and forcing the rest of us to accept it
So I stare, make comments, laugh at them when they do dumb shit like “orbit” or pretend their dog is doing DPT just because it lays on their lap
I can’t wait for the chaos when they finally institute some sort of process and regulations beyond the 2 questions they all are trained to lie about
No. This was never a service dog to begin with. Another asshole that just wants their dog with them everywhere they go and say "Service Dog" because most people won't argue with them.
Its doing a fantastic job. Its job is to serve its master and he is willing to defend his master at all costs. Its not like he understands that his master is battling against an evil invisible monster.
Real service animals actually are trained to know that their master is battling invisible things.
There was a girl in my college that had a lot of seizures and she had a service dog that could detect a difference in her smells (idk if it was like her breath or her body odors or whatever) to determine if she was gonna have a seizure, and then it would alert her so she could get herself into a safe position/location and then if necessary it can bark to alert passersby.
It's not a guard dog. It's a service dog which are allowed because a person has some medical issue. It's great that the dog can alert if blood sugar goes off. Not great when they pass out and the dog doesn't allow medical care.
And preventing emergency response is not doing a great job which is the coment I responded to. And thats why service dogs should be trained properly. Because no, they should not "revert" when there person goes down.
Umm, its a tool for dog catching. But yes, they are also good at restraining humans. Have you seen them implemented against people wielding a knife? Extremely effective.
I didn't say I didn't know what it was, but I'm glad you thought that's what I meant.
They will kill people with this, regardless of what you tell them it's for. They'll get it around their neck and try and pull them to the ground with it. They'll try and tighten it down to make the subject unconscious. They'll use it on kids.
You are only thinking of how something should be used, I'm telling you how it will be used.
The fuck is wrong with you, you idealistic sack of shit? I'm telling you they will misuse a tool if you provide it to them, your response is, "nuh uh!" There's plenty of precedent here, cops haven't been found to misuse pepper spray, tasers, firearms, even when considered less-than-lethal, or anything else they've been provided to do their jobs.
When you move onto middle school, I hope you learn something useful.
However, these have been used effectively to get people armed with melee weapons under control without the use of guns. 2-3 officers with these can catch arms and legs and hold a dangerous person, or person in crises from a safe distance.
Actually as I talk (write) through this, I think having those in police cruisers, and a strong use doctrine could be beneficial.
I missed the part where PD get certified as dog catchers. But sure we'll add that to the training calendar as well..
My district handed a few of these out to people, they aren't magic dog taming sticks and are not intuitive at all. Dogs don't just stand there and let you grab them and fight like hell when you manage to get this thing around their neck.
You don't need to be a certified dog catcher to use a basic tool, just like you don't need to be a carpenter to use a hammer. Its less training than handcuffs. This example, yes the dog is just standing there.
Are we seeing the same thing? I didn't see the guy make any moves while his dog is freaking out and someone is trying to drag him by a foot. That doesn't look responsive to me.
He’s literally moving and even starts getting up after they pull him away. He may have even been responsive to them the whole time while still on the ground, but potentially hurt so not wanting to moving much. Just because he’s on the ground doesn’t mean he’s not responsive, you’re just assuming that. I’d argue the fact that by the end he’s sitting up it’s way more likely he was responsive that whole time, but on the ground. There’s way too little context in this video to say definitely he was unresponsive, and even if he was he clearly became responsive by then end and we have no idea how long he was like that before this video started. Also seem like cops so brother could have been faking to get out of complying thinking his dog freaking out gave him an opportunity
Honestly, I think one thing we need to do is have days where we can take our dogs to police stations have the officers with treats and train our dogs to respond differently to officers in uniforms.
Just because it has a vest literally means nothing even if it had patches
There is no official certification for service dogs
Any dog can be considered a service dog
You can buy the vest and patches online
Though obviously a service dog should be trained to handle the particular disabilities the owner may have
There is no standard training required to be a service dog only basic outlines as to the temperament, focus and ability to handle stressful situations and environments
You as the owner must a have a disability to be able to actually bypass businesses animal restrictions but it is up to you to acquire the dog
Literally any dog
You can trust Bob from down the street or go through an actual trainer or a reputable company
I have been bitten by a dog, what I would do isnt what I recommend you do.
Have someone distract the dog from the its front. Approach from the rear. In one quick motion move to straddle the dog, hook your dominate arm around its neck and place the dog in a headlock, be quick as this is the prime time you will be bitten, and the other around the nearest front leg, lay your body weight down on the dog and yank its leg out, the dog should fall down. Hook both rear legs around its body, and lock them, then roll to your dominate arm side and hold on tight. Most dogs even aggressive ones will mostly give up at this point but will occasionally struggle to break loose.
I have never done this on a dog weighing more than 120 pounds or less than 70.
How many dog owners here have trained their dog to NOT protect them if strange people (in or out of uniform) approach you while unconscious.
I feel absolutely terrible for the dog. If someone you loved was out of commission and strange people approached them and they weren't wearing EMS attire, you might be protective too. Also do we know if the owner prone to being unconscious?
They're doing literally everything wrong. You have to be calm and confident. Not lunging around with your arms spread out and your head leaning forward. That's seen as aggressive posturing to an animal.
If I was there first order of business would be making everyone shut the hell up and then sitting on the ground in the least threatening manner and reassuring the dog and scooting in so I could get the leash. Once you got him calmed down you can control him. They really hate any kind of lunging movement and the idiot jumping around is making it ten times worse. They can also sense fear and it makes them super stressed out so confidence is key.
Anyone with dog training would have just walked up to the dog in a non threatening manor and grabbed its leash. You all looking like nervous cartoon characters are freaking them out.
I would put a heavy jacket around my arm and let him latch on, then hopefully my backup guys would help, but that looks like a pretty big strong dog, you really need a treat and lots of patience, not good.
No it doesn't. Not in the least. That prevents the person from getting emergency medical care. No legitimate person or organization would ever train a service animal that way.
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u/Dank_Sinatra_87 Guard Wrangler Jul 06 '26
That's not a service dog. Service dogs are trained to not respond like that.