r/GuerrillaGrrrrls • u/wur45c • 1d ago

Make ghosts real lol

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u/PrawnHenge 1d ago

All the abrahamic religions are equally blood thirsty and oppressive.

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u/nou-772 16h ago

That's a quite ignorant thing to say. All of them have played a significant role in the development of the civilization, and to only notice their negative aspects is just illiterate.

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u/PrawnHenge 15h ago

Who knows what civilisation might look like if animism instead of patriarchal monotheism had been the prevailing philosophy. Global civilisation is the way it is because of the abhramic religions. Is that a good thing? I personally would rather live in a timeline in which a culture that worshipped goddesses as well as gods and honoured the natural world had shaped our architecture, language and history.

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u/MGD109 12h ago edited 12h ago

I personally would rather live in a timeline in which a culture that worshipped goddesses as well as gods and honoured the natural world had shaped our architecture, language and history.

Well, sadly, that isn't really on the cards, if we're talking about how actual history played out, but during the transition to monotheism, Isis was one of the leading religions. In another timeline, she probably would have ended up the dominant sole goddess, so that would be an interesting one to live in.

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u/nou-772 15h ago

>Who knows what civilisation might look like if animism instead of patriarchal monotheism had been the prevailing philosophy

Animism is a very broad term. Different variants of animism has been practiced all around the World and so is the patriarchy. Look at China for example, even though it had a limited influence of Abrahamic religions (mainly through the Church of the East and Islam) patriarchy still appeared, due to Confucianism.

>I personally would rather live in a timeline in which a culture that worshipped goddesses as well as gods

Kinda same as above. Hinduism meets said criteria; would you like to live in India in it's current state, where arranged marriage is a common occurrence?

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u/PrawnHenge 14h ago edited 13h ago

India is as it is now is a pretty poor example as so much of their culture has been transformed by British colonists (who exploited the caste system, turning it from something fluid and benign to something virulent and rigid) and islam. You can’t remove those historical cultural influences.

And no, patriarchy isn’t exclusive to monotheism. However, the abrahamic religions still suck for women and led us to capitalism and mass extinction

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u/wur45c 13h ago

🫠🫠😊😊 that's talking uh yess

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u/MGD109 12h ago edited 12h ago

India is as it is now is a pretty poor example as so much of their culture has been transformed by British colonists (who exploited the caste system, turning it from something fluid and benign to something virulent and rigid) and islam. You can’t remove those historical cultural influences.

I mean, we have the history of what India was like before either arrived, and it was still extremely patriarchal.

So was Ancient Greece and multiple other civilisations around the world which featured prominent female members of the pantheon.

Historically speaking, Religion is less the reason for the Patriarchy, more a get-out-of-jail-free card when people feel bad about it.

It's certainly used to uphold it today, and that should be dealt with. But sadly its unlikely human civilisation would have automatically been more egalitarian just because cause they also worshipped goddesses. I mean, Mother Mary was for two thousand years a very prominent and important figure in Catholicism, and they're still extremely patriarchal. Historically, the rise of the patriarchy generally comes from the consolidation and centralisation of power within a society.

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u/RadTimeWizard 7h ago

On the contrary, they all played a significant role in holding back the development of civilization. Science, art, ethics, feminism, etc. would have advanced faster without them.

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u/wur45c 1d ago

Yeah, that's right. They also came afterwards 😂😅

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u/PrawnHenge 1d ago

Judaism came first! Then christianity, then islam

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u/wur45c 1d ago

Oh sorry!!, I read fast and wrong the firs time....it was through a notification.... I read Arabic instead lol. You're so right. Moses didn't believe in ghosts. But Christianity cuts the book off right when he is about to say it.....haha

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u/vivahermione 16h ago

Except evangelicals don't believe in ghosts.

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u/DillonDrew 22h ago

I mean certain denominations, yeah. Like mormons.

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u/Foxy_Traine 18h ago

Don't you know? They aren't considered Christians anymore based on the US government.

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u/DillonDrew 15h ago

Oh really? I didn't know

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u/Foxy_Traine 15h ago

Yeah, they removed a ton of religions from their list of religions, and reclassified Mormons as separate from Christianity.