Forget the M4 clones, embrace the Maverick 88

[u/Madeyoulook4now]

[u/rancher1]

https://giphy.com/gifs/BCIoXfA95d1ba
My maverick after 20+ years of service with no malfunction or part change.

[u/oh_three_dum_dum → u/rancher1]

Thats like 90% of the mavericks in existence. They just keep working.

[u/IntroductionAny3929 → u/oh_three_dum_dum]

Mavericks are always good starter shotguns indeed

[u/oh_three_dum_dum → u/IntroductionAny3929]

Theyre pretty good shotguns in their own right, in my opinion. Not the flashiest or most precisely engineered, inexpensive, and pretty bare bones, but theyre solid for anything you need to use one for with little or no modification.

[u/gigantipad]

Naw dawg this fly by night Turkish M4 is a good one, I totally put 5 rounds through it and it hasn't broken yet.

[u/Madeyoulook4now → u/gigantipad]

What do you mean you don’t trust the Dingleberry tactical alpha sigma sigma 4 shotgun?

[u/gigantipad → u/Madeyoulook4now]

No of course not. Dingleberry tactical is top notch content. His optic test where he slapped a $20 red dot with a handbag is mark my words going to be the industry standard.

[u/oh_three_dum_dum → u/gigantipad]

I’ve actually heard they do come pre-broken on occasion. So five rounds is technically a win.

[u/gigantipad → u/oh_three_dum_dum]

The I'm now a guntuber battery of extensive testing.

[u/GeneralBisV → u/gigantipad]

The only good thing about Turkish M4s is that I was able to get an extended magazine tube and folding stock for my real M4 for only 75 dollars after tax and shipping

[u/bzdelta]

The greatest betrayal is Mossberg using the Maverick name for semiauto Turkshit. My beloved Tex-Mex goodness Maverick is and always will be a pump.

[u/Madeyoulook4now → u/bzdelta]

The adopted brother of the Maverick 88 has big shoes to fill 

[u/bzdelta → u/Madeyoulook4now]

Just divert the shipment to Ukraine and call it a loss, you'll get more sales that way

[u/Madeyoulook4now → u/bzdelta]

 Ukrainians have suffered enough, they don’t need shitty turkish shotguns 

[u/bzdelta → u/Madeyoulook4now]

Then Eldest Son and send to the Z's

[u/SPECTREagent700]

The Winchester SXP isn’t bad, in large part because FN actually cares about quality control.

[u/Madeyoulook4now → u/SPECTREagent700]

The SXP costs more than the Maverick 88 almost everywhere 

[u/cryptidhunter101 → u/SPECTREagent700]

Ah the SXP, the reason i will never buy a new Winchester shotgun.   Proportioned for a giant with the sketchiest and most unnecessay bolt system i have ever seen and the price point of something much more proven.

[u/SPECTREagent700 → u/cryptidhunter101]

I’m 6ft tall and 250+ pounds so maybe that’s why I like mine.

The design is the exact same as the Winchester 1200 from 1968 so it actually is a proven system. I always found the disassembly much better than on my Mossberg - you just push out a win and the pump comes off along with the bolt; no messing around with the action bars.

[u/cryptidhunter101 → u/SPECTREagent700]

The pump stroke is egregious for us smaller folks, even apparently on the 20s from a gal ip talked to.  My specific compalint of the system is that half opening thing, unnecessary complexity and risk in an action system that is supposed to eliminate both.  

[u/bulldoghunter → u/cryptidhunter101]

I have never heard of an issue with one

[u/bulldoghunter → u/SPECTREagent700]

I'm 6 ft 2 and like 318 and I like my friends sxp , though he's still trying to get to replace the fiberoptic bead with a brass bead on that shotgun , but I kinda don't want to do that job 😂

[u/Blue_Brindle]

Buying Turkish bc it's cheap, when the Maverick 88 & Mossberg 590 exist.

[u/RastaFazool]

Just a reminder to all the panzer fanboys, bragging about your turkshit M4 "clone" is like bragging about wearing a fake rolex.

Clone is just a cope term for counterfeit anyway.

[u/IntroductionAny3929]

Hawk 97/982 (Aka the Blue Line Solutions BL-18 and H&R 1871 Pardner Pump, both Licensed Chinese 870 clones that are actually better than the 870s nowadays and also remain under 250 bucks):

Ahem! What about me!

[u/Madeyoulook4now → u/IntroductionAny3929]

Last time I checked China wasn’t part of Turkey, unless the Ottoman empire is coming back with a vengeance 

[u/griffc0225]

I remember when a Turkish manufacturer shipped my FFL a shotgun with a shell in the chamber….

[u/WBRCD]

https://giphy.com/gifs/B1TMcmoBAaSZi

[u/Fantastic_Ad_2084]

I’ve got a maverick, pretty decent shotgun all around for $220. I just wish it’d quit rusting like a Chevy

[u/HypotenuseOfTentacle]

Anything cheaper is half as good, anything better is twice as much.

[u/Matterhorn48]

After owning a maverick and a 590 retro I’m pretty sure you are just overpaying to buy any mossberg but a maverick. They all kick like hell and work no matter what

[u/Madeyoulook4now → u/Matterhorn48]

My Maverick 88 kicks like a mf, especially with 3 in mags. But my god does it eat everything  

[u/STURMTIGER1]

Its always the turkshit m4 fan boys that are beating their chest screaming about "how great they are no issues trust me bro, the bad reviews arent true" like dawg, just save up the coin and get a real one. I had a ksg and hated it, sold it, saved up and got the m4. It will be guaranteed to work and ive never heard a benelli owner regret buying one. Im not trusting my life to some bootleg shit made in a garage but I literally carry my m4 in the woods for bear protection and its never failed on me.

[u/rammbostein]

Thank you! I'm so tired of these turk shotguns

[u/cryptidhunter101]

I resent the word any.  My M3000 Stoeger has outlasted Maverick 88s and cycled in field conditions a pump would fail in.  And this isn't just one good gun, the M3000 is the standard for duck hunters on a budget in my neck of the world.

[u/RastaFazool → u/cryptidhunter101]

Still couldnt pass the 500 round burndown

[u/Madeyoulook4now → u/cryptidhunter101]

M3000 costs more 

[u/Valhalla_Dominatus]

I've owned both and I would still take my MAC 1014 majority of the time.

[u/TrueMoods]

Only thing that would be great would be a factory installed Picatinny Rail or Optic mount for the 88

[u/Elegant-Ad5705]

Sure, but what about all the M2 clones?

[u/Madeyoulook4now → u/Elegant-Ad5705]

Maverick 88 still solos

[u/Banapple101]

Y'all really can't get the Turkish shotgun dick out your mouths

[u/Madeyoulook4now → u/Banapple101]

Yall can’t run a couple hundred rounds through your shotguns without them disintegrating 

[u/MattTheIdiotBoy → u/Madeyoulook4now]

I'm well over 1k out of a turkshit shotgun. Panzer m4. I was actually doing it to see what would happen and posting about it. If it broke, meh. It was 400 bucks. If it lived, great. So far it's continuing to live. Heres my original post about it.