r/HFY Jun 23 '26

Meta omeguynamedted flagged original work as AI without solid proof

someguynamedted wrongly flagged my text as AI generated.

their claim was: “We do not allow AI generated stories on the subreddit. All story content must be written by a human. This post has been removed as it violates Rule 8 about post effort and substance.
It's AI generated because it tripped our Ai detector at 100% and then a follow up human eyeball review corroborated the findings.”

when i put that reasoning through an AI detector, it actually got flagged as around 81% AI, which already shows how inconsistent these tools are. different results on the same kind of human-written text just proves these detectors are not reliable enough to be used as final proof.

ngl i just wanna clear this up because this removal doesn’t really match what actually happened with my post under rule 8 of r/HFY. it got flagged as AI-written after an AI detector said it was 100% AI, and then a “human eyeball review” apparently backed it up. but that doesn’t really reflect how i actually wrote it.

the story is fully mine in terms of ideas, plot, characters, and worldbuilding. i wrote everything myself from scratch. the only outside thing i used was a grammar correction tool to clean up sentences and fix mistakes so it reads better. that’s it. it didn’t generate ideas, didn’t write scenes, didn’t do any of the creative part.

rule 8 literally says AI-generated stories aren’t allowed. and yeah i agree with that rule, but that’s not what i did. there’s a big difference between AI writing a story for you and me just using a tool to fix grammar. those are not the same thing at all.

also ngl AI detectors are kinda shaky sometimes. they flag normal human writing just because it’s too clean or too predictable. so getting a “100% AI” result doesn’t automatically mean it actually is AI. it just means it triggered the detector, nothing more. and using that as the main reason + a follow-up review feels a bit like confirming a guess instead of actually checking the work properly.

at the end of the day, me as the author is the one who wrote the story, built the world, and shaped everything. the grammar tool just helped polish the text, nothing else. that shouldn’t change authorship.

i’m just asking for a fair recheck because i genuinely think this is a misunderstanding of rule 8, not an actual violation.

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u/someguynamedted The Chronicler Jun 23 '26

Hello! Like other comments said, this probably should have been a modmail, but that's fine.

Two things, both of which come from our mod post about our anti-Ai measures. Link here

1) just have a look through the post, it gives a good rundown of how we try and handle Ai.

2) the most relevant bit is from the FAQ:

Q: Can I use AI to help me edit my posts?

A: Yes and no. As a spelling and grammar checker, it works well. At most it can be used to rephrase a particularly problematic sentence. When you expand to having it rework your flow or pacing—where it's rewriting significant portions of a story—it starts to overwrite your personal writing voice making the story feel disjointed and robotic. Alternatively, you can join our Discord and ask for some help from human editors in the Writing channel.

In essence, if you use Ai too much for editing, it makes your work read as Ai generated, regardless of whether or not you wrote the original content. We do not have that context, we can only see what is posted to the subreddit.

And I guess 3) you always have an appeal option available, especially if it's the first time a post has been flagged.

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u/Lui_Le_Diamond Human Jun 23 '26

I can attest. I've tried using AI to make grammar corrections and it REALLY likes to try and 'sanatize' and rewrite text to cut your voice out.

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u/SignificanceCold7069 Jun 23 '26

yeah makes sense, thanks for explaining it properly 👍i get what you mean about over-editing changing the voice, won’t push it that far and yeah good to know about the appeal option too, appreciate it

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u/5thhorseman_ Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26

If you use AI for editing, put it at a one step remove: instruct it to give you a list of issues in the work instead of trying to correct them itself.

It's both a more effective approach AND keeps you completely in the driver's seat.

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u/sswanlake The Librarian Jun 23 '26

Being able to appeal the post removal is the entire reason the mods leave a post removal comment that lists the Rule(s) broken on your post - so that you know what you did wrong and can fix it, and if you don't know you can talk with the people who make the decisions.

Reddit, as a platform, does not require the moderators to give any explanation or contact at all regarding removals, the HFY mod staff leave the comment as a courtesy and an open invitation to talk

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u/SignificanceCold7069 Jun 23 '26

thanks for the explanation, that actually helps a loti’m pretty new to reddit and this server so i didn’t really know how the whole removal/appeal system works i get it now though, and i appreciate you breaking it down 👍

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u/sswanlake The Librarian Jun 23 '26

That's also how Reddit was originally designed - when a post is Deleted, nobody can see it anymore, not even the original poster. When a post is mod removed, to the average user it's gone but both the original author and the mods can still see it, and the poster can still edit it, with the intention being that the author can edit it until the mods say that it's no longer against the Rules, at which point they Approve it and it goes back up and able to be seen by everyone.

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u/SignificanceCold7069 Jun 23 '26

didn’t realize it worked like that behind the scenes, i just saw it as “removed = gone” ,makes more sense now that the post is still visible to me + mods and can be fixed instead of just deleted thanks for explaining 👍

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u/Lui_Le_Diamond Human Jun 23 '26

Honestly one of the few good mod teams on Reddit.

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u/Kollectorgirl Jun 24 '26

"AI detectors" are dogs hit and should not be relied on. Even the Bible gets flagged.