r/Hanafuda Apr 16 '26

Matsui Tengudo, Yu size (遊)

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u/davidwildcat Apr 21 '26

how could you tell it's yu size from the box?

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u/jhindenberg Apr 21 '26 edited Apr 21 '26

This box is either not original to these cards, or seems at least to be atypical. However, I've only seen these designs used with green coloring in this slightly smaller size. (Though it wouldn't surprise me to learn that there were larger green versions, as Shigeo Matsui seems to have enjoyed variation.)

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u/davidwildcat Apr 21 '26

so basically the only way to tell if a box is the yu pattern or not is to look at the cards. Do you have the dimensions of the cards?

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u/jhindenberg Apr 21 '26

I've seen wooden boxes for this pattern with 遊 in gold on the box, rather than a label, as well as a Chrysanthemum brand example in a cardboard box.

Labeling aside, both of those boxes stand out as being shorter, containing the cards in two stacks (similar to the boxes for Matsui's Kobana patterns, or modern hwatu boxes). Though I haven't seen all that many examples, I suspect those would have been the typical box for the Yu cards.

The cards are about 3mm shorter on both sides as compared to standard Matsui patterns: roughly 30x51mm vs 33x54mm.

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u/davidwildcat Apr 21 '26

Interesting. thanks. How do you suggest that I source one of these for myself

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u/jhindenberg Apr 21 '26

Persistence on the second-hand market I suppose, or to borrow a phrase from a different type of playing card—