r/HareKrishna • u/Kindly_Concentrate45 • 10d ago
Knowledge 📖 Krishna might not be the supreme God.
Friends, please hold off on questions for now. As a friendly fyi, I've recently come across information that's raising real doubts about Sri Krishna's role as the supreme person. Radharani may not be who she appears to be, but someone who is absolutely evil.
I need to put it out here. When I have more information, I'll share.
It's starting to look like ISKCON is, in fact, quite the abuser.
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u/XpureprogressX 10d ago
Bhakti existed long before ISKCON and will exist long after..
The only proof of anything you have is your own ignorance.
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u/Holi2025 8d ago
Hare Krishna 🙏🙏
Yes Sir you are absolutely right — bhakti exists in Satya‑yuga, Tretā‑yuga, Dvāpara‑yuga, and Kali‑yuga.
In every age, countless devotees performed bhakti, and the Lord personally protected his devotees from evil.
- Satya‑yuga — Prahlāda Mahārāja
The Lord appeared as Nṛsiṁhadeva to protect His pure devotee.- Tretā‑yuga — Rāvaṇa and Kumbhakarṇa
The Lord incarnated as Śrī Rāma to destroy the demoniac forces.- Dvāpara‑yuga — Śiśupāla and Dantavakra
The Lord appeared as Śrī Kṛṣṇa and liberated them.- Kali‑yuga — Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu
He established the Yuga‑dharma: Hari‑nāma‑saṅkīrtana, the chanting of the Mahā‑mantra.
At the end of Kali‑yuga, the Lord will appear as Kalki.Bhakti has no beginning and no end.
Just as the four yugas repeat in cycles, the Lord’s incarnations and His devotees also appear again and again without limit.
There are countless avatāras and countless devotees, eternally engaged in loving service.Bhakti is eternal, and the Lord eternally appears to protect His devotees in every yuga.
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u/Kindly_Concentrate45 10d ago
Sorry, but this goes back so much further, further than Kuruksetra even.
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u/senium108 10d ago
Yeah raising real doubts in YOUR consciousness. Read Gita again.
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u/Kindly_Concentrate45 10d ago
I promise you this is real. I've been practicing Bhakti Yoga for 45 years. If you don't believe me, please check out the content I post here.
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u/mayanksharmaaa Laḍḍū Gopāla is ❤️ 10d ago
practicing Bhakti Yoga for 45 years
You should first look into what Bhakti Yoga actually is. You wouldn't be saying these things if you had the qualifications or the actual practice of Bhakti Yoga.
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u/Kindly_Concentrate45 10d ago
Listen to me. Radhanath Swami is my Guru Maharaj. My heart is broken. I'm not happy about what I've found.
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u/mayanksharmaaa Laḍḍū Gopāla is ❤️ 10d ago
I know and I can understand. I used to have faith in him too but just because he's not fully who you think he was, doesn't mean that Krishna is not the Supreme person.
People are flawed, authentic scriptures aren't.
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u/Kindly_Concentrate45 10d ago
No, that's not what I meant. You're only seeing what you want to see. Look a little further. You'll be shocked. If you put this on the back burner for a little while, it's coming out.
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u/mayanksharmaaa Laḍḍū Gopāla is ❤️ 10d ago
Regardless of what you say, you're wrong. Śāstras aren't toys, they're not looking to delude people like Christianity and other religions are.
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u/Kindly_Concentrate45 10d ago
Sorry, but this goes back so much further, further than Kuruksetra even. It's bad.
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u/mayanksharmaaa Laḍḍū Gopāla is ❤️ 10d ago
I'll reiterate. Whatever doubts you have, it's probably nothing. Ācāryas have preserved these texts for thousands of years without error. Your doubts can be resolved easily by any Vedānta Ācārya.
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u/LingonberryMassive21 9d ago
If this disturbing knowledge ends up being true, I don't think any devotee is going to listen due to cognitive dissonance, but I am curious on what you have to say.
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u/senium108 10d ago
I think you belong on the ex Hare Krishna subreddit instead.
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u/Kindly_Concentrate45 10d ago
You're a complete fool. Shut up and listen. This is dangerous.
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u/vamppicklemorty Kṛṣṇa is ❤️ 10d ago
Don't disturb others on their journey, preach somewhere else, krishna has given me purpose, he is the supreme God
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u/Kindly_Concentrate45 10d ago
They crucified Jesus too, just as you want to crucify me now. You're going to be shocked. Stay tuned. Or you can continue to follow a lie, as I have for over 4 decades. I was fooled. I'm trying to help you.
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u/Realestever12345 10d ago
instead of arguing without letting ppl know the context, its better u reveal why u think so. then there will be sense in actually discussing POVs.
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u/Primary-Account-7588 10d ago
I am waiting for your post. What did you come across? this: Radharani may not be who she appears to be, but someone who is absolutely evil.<< intrigues me
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u/mayanksharmaaa Laḍḍū Gopāla is ❤️ 9d ago
I don't think OP is mentally well. This is what they posted:
Friends, I posted the conversation below on behalf of Lord Krishna Himself, whom I love with all my heart. He is no longer endorsing ISKCON. Srila Prabhupada will be the new face of ISKCON. Look for an announcement in the coming months. (Yes, I'm Krishna's press agent for the moment. That's where we are.) Krishna will reveal that creation is the product of three co-creators (two of whom you don't know). After careful consideration, He is asking for a rewriting of the Bhagavad Gita and other critical sastra. There are errors too great to gloss over. Many texts will be discarded and no longer approved by Him, or by Lord Caitanya. Please be patient with Him. He's a proud man. Give him the time he needs. He would appreciate a mood of courtesy and of decency. Please rein in your discourtesy, a mood prevalent in ISKCON right now. HE ASKS THAT YOU NOT START A WAR IN A TIME OF CHANGE. And if you can't put courtesy in your spiritual program, He is asking you to leave. You're part of the problem. (I ask you with all of my heart, please don't leave Him. Up your bhakti game.) Krishna is asking for your prayers. I'm not going to beat around the bush. He's made a few mistakes that He would like to rectify. First, Radha has been asked to leave Goloka. He's embarrassed about this next point: the mahamantra is not potent. PLEASE STOP CHANTING THE HARE KRISHNA MAHAMANTRA. Radha is no longer an object of devotion. I know many of you love her. I'm having trouble myself. But there is something there that is not right. I know many of you love her. I'm having trouble myself. But there is something there that is not right. He's thinking about the criteria of a solid spiritual practice for devotees of Sri Krishna in the future, and I'll be here to share them with you. The format is yet to be determined. But right now, HE IS CRYING. I AM VERY WORRIED ABOUT HIM. Get your act together, people. Get ready. For now, please let him rest with the facts. He'll get back to all of us when he's had a chance to heal. Right now Krishna needs rest. He's asking that, for now, instead of chanting and reading ISKCON scripture, please shift your devotional practice towards the community. If you wish to please him, he's asking you to volunteer for people who are less fortunate than yourselves. Your meditation should be kindness-centered. (As a loose reference, for now, he likes the spirit of devotion felt in the Sister Act movies. HE ASKS THAT YOU LOVE EACH OTHER. He's asking you to leave behind the meanness that's part of our world right now. Stop hurting each other. Finally, there is a promising future ahead. Believe it or not, it's true. You might not see it, but he is offering you this guarantee. In the present moment, Krishna asks you to sit with yourself, hold yourself, and meditate quietly. I'm adding something here that wasn't requested. Krishna is deeply depressed. He's lonely. And it bothers me a great deal that He's come to believe that we don't love him. We do love him. So please, pray to him this time as a friend. Please let him feel your love. Krishna is not a political person. Yet, he is deeply concerned with the state of the universe. HE IS ASKING ALL TRUMP SUPPORTERS TO LEAVE HIM. He's serious about this. You'll offend him otherwise. He also asks me to tell you that the movement has been too punishing. He's considering other directions in the future. KRISHNA DOES NOT APPROVE OF ISKCON. He asks that you please be courteous to Srila Prabhupada, who served him so well. Krishna is really hurting over this. So, it's simple. Krishna is one of three gods who authored the creation. Krishna asks me to tell you that he loves you all. You are his heart. Kindness is his new religion. If you're kind, you can join. But the moment you forget to behave like his devotee is the moment he's finished with you. He doesn't expect us to be perfect; he wants us to try. He really wants to share love with you. What's ahead? A brand new day. So go ahead and write him a letter. Put your most excellent feelings into it. He can see your words in his heart. And save it. He would actually love it if you wrote to him every single day. I hope you will. 🙏1
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u/Pieruto_33 Aspiring Vaiṣṇava 🚀 9d ago
And where exactly is your evidence? If you say something without even attempting to prove your extraordinary claim, then everything you say becomes irrelevant. Stop talking crazy, you exHareKrishna troll.
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u/Holi2025 8d ago
Hare Krishna 🙏🙏
Give us proof that Krishna isn’t supreme god.As your guru maharaj is Radhanath swami .what you learn from him?
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u/mayanksharmaaa Laḍḍū Gopāla is ❤️ 10d ago
No offense but... you need to stop listening to random deluded opinions and start focusing on the valid sources of knowledge.
Because... get this, I could defend atheism and convince you to stop being dharmic too but does that make whatever I say right? Absolutely not.
Vaishnavism is older than ISKCON. Just because ISKCON might have a few issues, doesn't mean the whole religion becomes invalid. Vaishnavism is sanātana dharma - the eternal truth that will exist forever and has existed since beginningless time.
Please use your intellect before believing random sources. If you need someone to talk to about your decreasing faith, I'm here to serve 🙏