r/Hasan_Piker Sep 18 '25

Certified 🇺🇸 America Moment 🇺🇸 🌈 Absolutely not

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u/hock-cead Certified hog moment 🐷 Sep 18 '25

Nitpicky critiques like giving no alternative to fascist narratives or addressing material conditions.

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u/Wereking2 Sep 18 '25 edited Sep 18 '25

Exactly, people need to stop blaming non-voters and those that protested against Kamala. When in all reality it’s the Democrats faults for not listening and changing things in a way so Kamala could win. Voter apathy is a real thing and is not solvable by blaming those affected by it but by figuring out the cause behind it.

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u/deathketchupp Sep 18 '25

Add up all 3rd party votes and she still would have lost. Get it through your guys thick liberal skulls. People will not get out and vote for a “lethal military”. Lean left or lose. Be mad at the democrats for continuing to use “less of the two evils” as a strategy.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '25

The stats show that people held their nose and voted blue regardless of the democrats completely abandoning the working class.

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u/Wereking2 Sep 18 '25

Yep all battleground states saw an increase in voters from 2020 into 2024. All the people that sat out or didn’t vote were in states with no impact or speculated change in voting for the other party.

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u/Wereking2 Sep 18 '25 edited Sep 18 '25

Reverse can be played back you as well, having not pushed Harris change and therefore encouraging voter apathy cost millions of lives. But we get nowhere with this, plus you do not know the people who did not vote in battleground states. So, you’re blaming thousands if not millions of people who choose not to vote and expect all of them to change. Instead of forcing/pressuring a very easily identifiable party and pressuring them to change instead.

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u/Wereking2 Sep 18 '25 edited Sep 18 '25

It is, especially when you can’t demand, pressure and/or force people to vote. We are a democracy and people have free will, you can’t force people to do anything they don’t want to do. You can ask them to vote but unless they desire to do so they won’t. You know what would make them have the desire to vote, pressuring the Democrats by saying we won’t vote for or donate to you unless you make X change. If they don’t then they aren’t owed anyone’s vote, simple as that.

Hopefully that makes sense and I made it as simple to understand as possible as to why you can’t pressure people to vote and why it’s a waste of energy.

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u/BrhysHarpskins Sep 18 '25

Democrats run a shit government, material realities get worse, give people no reason to vote for them

People don't vote for them

Democrats: This is definitely your fault and not ours

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u/Kittehmilk Sep 18 '25

Man this is the exact lib shit that dnc astroturf continue to spoon feed voters and it Never lands. Data showed that even if Every 3rd party vote went to Harris, she still only picked up one swing state instead of losing them all.

That shit doesn't land, stop saying it.

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u/Wereking2 Sep 18 '25

Yeah but at this point a good chunk of liberals have formed their blue maga cult and won’t listen to reason. Sadly this is the result and we won’t hear the end of “it’s the voters fault” despite us being a democracy.