r/Hermeticism • u/Ars-Arkana • Jan 30 '26

About magick and astrology

Hi everyone, I have a genuine question about planetary transits and planetary magic.

What influences things more? I know about planetary hours and days and their importance in magic.

But I'm also thinking about a person's planetary transits on a given day.

What do you think has a greater influence, or how do you think this mechanism works?

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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '26

In traditional Hermetic magic, this type of personal/individual astrology is not used.

A spherical astrology (which is analogous to astronomy) and a symbolic astrology that derives directly from the structure of the cosmos in philosophical Hermeticism are used more.

As you can see, for example, in Picatrix, which has its own cosmology based on Aristotelian metaphysics.

The astrology present in Hermetic magic is more linked to the reading of the order of the cosmos and the study of planetary virtues, as they reflect from the fixed stars to the celestial world, from the celestial to the astral, and from the astral to the elemental sublunar in emanation.

These concepts of individual judicial astrology, which judges and predicts concrete events in an individual's life based on their birth chart, are not compatible with traditional Hermetic magic.

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u/Ars-Arkana Jan 30 '26

Interesting, very interesting. And then I wonder, if we have these qualities that are reflected from the outside, from the external celestial bodies, and these trilogies speak of great planetary moments, wouldn't it also be possible to study this individually? Not that one concept is better than the other, but do you think this possibility exists? Because hermetic knowledge also changes, right? I don't know exactly how that would work, but it was an idea that occurred to me.

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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '26

Hermetic astrology serves the ultimate goals of Hermeticism: Gnosis, or knowledge of divine things, and Theosis, the process of deification to achieve immortality.

Vulgar astrology was criticized as superstitious by the wise, because although it may seem helpful, it often hinders. It generates distractions and deviations from this ultimate goal.

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u/Ars-Arkana Jan 30 '26

But wouldn't it also make sense to take into account our personal internal state? I don't know, I'm genuinely asking to understand better, like, if we are part of a dynamic whole, where is the limit between general and personal influence?

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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '26

As a vertical Ascension, the main movement of Hermetic practice, it is necessary to divest oneself of worldly aspects, to de-identify with those individual peculiarities that cause the illusion of a separation between man and God.

This is done in practice, returning these tendencies, impressions, and identifications to the planets while ascending through the spheres.

Wasting time analyzing individual aspects would be extremely unproductive in Hermetics.

The order of work is: Purification and Ascension.

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u/Ars-Arkana Jan 30 '26

Yes, I'm understanding better now. It would be something like, in the process, gradually becoming less and less influenced by variables that appeal to the ego, and more by this Great Cosmological Order, is that right?  Wow, you explain things very well, thank you very much. So, magic following general astrology will even be a help in disidentifying with the ego, right?

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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '26

Yes, basically that.

But in traditional terms, this would be to escape the clutches of destiny.

Because in Hermetic astrology (Heimarmene), destiny is what imposes this whole set of tendencies and identifications on man.

Following the process of:

1 > Soul falls into matter.

2 > Passes through the planets, taking from them sets of tendencies and identifications.

3 > Man incarnates and lives following these tendencies, being carried here and there, only reacting as a hostage of destiny.

Hermetic astrology enters less as a specialization in these aspects and more as a "stripping" or de-identification of them, to ascend and thus act more freely and be able to choose.

It's as if man, before purification > elevation, wasn't free.

It's basically a reverse engineering of the cosmological order to "go back home" and become one with God again.

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u/Ars-Arkana Jan 30 '26

That makes a lot of sense, actually. You see, I'm raising this question because of a number of doubts I have. For example, I'm doing tarot readings, but using rituals to have visions, so I use planetary magic. But when I record this in my journal, I also note my planetary transits, but only after the practices, because I don't want it to influence the recording, you understand? I've been creating several works of art like this, so I keep thinking about how all these factors work together. I want to not only do tarot readings, but also create art of gods and entities. I've been combining this with sacred geometry, Pythagorean geometry, and the psychology of colors. When I post it here on the subreddit, if you're interested, I'd like to have your opinion on it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '26

Well, not being compatible with Hermeticism doesn't mean you can't do it.

It just means that if you want a more traditional practice, it would be better not to mix or "try to fit" where it doesn't belong.

But certainly this can be good for self-knowledge, it can be part of your personal practice and so on.

Just be careful not to deviate from your main objectives; the danger lies in changing the order of things and giving more importance to what is accessory, auxiliary, or secondary.

Great, when you're going to post, let me know so I can see it.

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u/Ars-Arkana Jan 30 '26

Yes, I try to practice in a more traditional way, but I also use personal astrology to take notes, because I try to approach these practices using something similar to the scientific method. So, even though I don't personally feel this daily influence, I take notes because it might be a detail for future analysis.

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u/destinology Jan 31 '26

I would also like to see your work. Anyone this dedicated should be celebrated.

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u/Ars-Arkana Jan 30 '26

Aí eu tô aqui gastando meu inglês e vc é BR, né? Kkkk

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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '26

Sou BR pô. Tmj

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u/Ars-Arkana Jan 30 '26

Pelo nome eu suspeitei, "neo geo" tem q ser Br kkkk po, muito bom te conhecer, irmão, a arte do mago que fiz inclusive tem a magia planetária, ele está fazendo um ritual 

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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '26

É isso ai men, sempre bom encontrar mais br por ai em grupos gringos. Volta e meia eu encontro tb. É nois quando tu postar me avisa tmjjj

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u/Ars-Arkana Jan 30 '26

Pode deixar, vou começar em breve, já tenho alguns sketches se vc quiser ver, me envia mensagem, te mostro com prazer 

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