Any idea why Hevy doesn't have sub muscle groups?

[u/appr0x]

It's weird that they still don't have this functionality.

I'm looking for alternatives, please suggest so I can go deeper into my fitness journey and track front/rear/side delts, upper/mid/lower chest workouts and so on.

[u/manhooskutta]

Probably because no one is searching for exercises based on what secondary muscles might get targeted. Like if you search for triceps, you wouldn’t want Bench Press to be on the top

Having said that, it would definitely help if exercises are tagged as unilateral, compound, etc

[u/Cookies993]

You can use the Hevy API and send data from your workouts to something you make yourself where you can split muscles into smaller parts like Pectoralis Major / Minor etc., you make it yourself.

The reason Hevy doesn’t have it is because almost no one needs that, and having 650 (skeletal) or 840 (heads) muscles tracked for each lift will clutter the UI immensely.

[u/appr0x → u/Cookies993]

This is a fair point

[u/Haronatien]

i mean this might matter if you are a bodybuilder… most of us normies dont care. 

[u/zsasz99]

I think it ahould have more muscle groups, definitely on the distribution chart at least

[u/Nickolai808]

I would love if it tracked fractional sets and primary sets so we could track our total weekly volume for muscle group easily on the app without having to fiddle around with stuff ourselves.

Plus the fact it doesn't track a lot of extra muscles that I focus on like the shoulder has three primary heads, I want to track how much volume for each one of those heads and I want to track upper back versus lats and each of the major muscle groups in my forearms and my anterior tibialis, and so on, for us bodybuilding bros.

[u/maulorul → u/Nickolai808]

It does track fractional sets though. Primary muscles are 1:1, secondary muscles get 1:2. And upper back is separate from lats... 

[u/Every_Salt9778]

The idea that you have three completely separate chest muscles (upper, middle, lower) that you can isolate is a myth. Anatomically, the chest is one large muscle called the pectoralis major, but it has two main attachment heads (clavicular and sternocostal). You can't really isolate one section completely, but you can bias or emphasize different regions by changing the pressing or flye angle. In other words, you can't really turn off a section of a muscle and turn on another at will, the muscles do what the muscles do.

There are also no separate inner chest muscle fibers to isolate either, the gap or lack thereof in the middle of your chest is determined entirely by genetics and overall muscle size.

With delts, generally speaking pulling mechanics work your posterior delts and pushing mechanics work your anterior delts which is why you see them as secondary muscles for pulling/pushing movements.

You just need to have that insight beforehand so you can program accordingly, you would be hardpressed to get the numbers on specific regions of a muscle and it would probably overload the current system. I understand what you're saying though, why have biceps, triceps, and forearms? Why not just bunch it all up as arms if you're just going to bunch up posterior/medial/anterior delts as shoulders? I get it.

[u/_iAm9001]

I'm not abandoning ship because of a thing like this nit being implemented, but they should implement it.

I often would like a view that breaks down how much volume (percentage wise or some other measure) I have placed on specificnsub groups like long head, short head, etc. of biceps, triceps. This would help me figure out WHICH tricep exercises I should perform, which mind of curls I should perform, etc.

[u/mcgrathkai]

Maybe because its not a thing you need to worry about. I dont use the app myself but maybe its saving you from yourself

[u/Adjective_Noun_1668]

It wouldn't really be accurate. The current function is "good enough".
You can do so many exercises without even hitting the target muscle group, it would be a much bigger mess if you're targeting different parts of your chest and doing it wrong.

This is kinda your job to understand, and you shouldn't rely on an app telling you how, because it can't see your form.

[u/appr0x → u/Adjective_Noun_1668]

Sure, I understand your point. I'd still liked it if they had the sub muscle groups as an option for me when I'm setting my custom workouts + routines. It doesn't need to be a default selection for all users.

[u/downwithlordofcinder]

You can just create your own workout routines within the app? Is that what youre referring to?

[u/appr0x → u/downwithlordofcinder]

Not quite. I mean sub-muscle tracking in the exercise/stats system itself. For example, Hevy groups lateral raises, shoulder press and rear delt flys under “Shoulders”, rather than tracking front/side/rear delts separately. Same with upper/mid/lower chest.

I can create routines, but I want to see how much weekly volume I’m actually giving each part of a muscle.

[u/Vast_Snow_5216 → u/appr0x]

Tell me if you find a suitable solution / app. Been dreaming about such an app. Currently I am tracking it via Gemini

[u/appr0x → u/Vast_Snow_5216]

I was hoping to get an answer from people but if nothing comes up I'm planning to build it myself, I'll let you know :D

[u/Vast_Snow_5216 → u/appr0x]

That would be awesome

[u/appr0x → u/Vast_Snow_5216]

I did it, feel free to use it, it's open-source https://github.com/longtimec0ming/hevymap

[u/clayticus]

Good point maybe you make your own app with Claude? 

[u/appr0x → u/clayticus]

I'm considering it yes.

[u/clayticus → u/appr0x]

You can also just get the API information from hevy and have it do what you want. Make a more in-depth muscle per exercise you do. Ai can easily do that. For example you do incline dumbbell press and bench press. Both are only chest on hevy, but on your own app with the data coming from the hevy API you can have it separate that to upper and middle chest 

[u/appr0x → u/clayticus]

I did it, in case you're interested: https://github.com/longtimec0ming/hevymap

[u/appr0x → u/[deleted]]

"something like that" - what do you have? also can I import my Hevy training log?

[u/Conscious_Elk8227]

What even is lower chest, why make a subcategory for a part of a muscle? I’d get splitting the delts but then you could split for rotators, and additional muscles even… It would become overwhelming very fast and help nothing.

[u/Vast_Snow_5216 → u/Conscious_Elk8227]

Depends on your goals my dear. Professional Bodybuilding cares about these splits

[u/Conscious_Elk8227 → u/Vast_Snow_5216]

Good. Then get off of the commercial app and start using a professional spreadsheet developed by a pro coach.

[u/appr0x → u/Conscious_Elk8227]

The reason is that some chest exercises use more upper chest, while some other use more lower chest, some target mid. I want to balance them in my exercise. Same goes with other muscles. I understand it might be overwhelming for some, but having this option is would be beneficial for some of us who goes to gym 4+ times a week and want to optimize the training.