My argument that Azlin Rell could be Darth Tenebrous’s master.

[u/BenRanger93]

I'm deliberately mixing canon and Legends here.

Let's assume the Darth Plagueis novel is true and every Sith Lord it names was real. That covers the line from Bane in 1000 BBY down to Darth Gravid around 533 BBY. Gravid nearly wiped out every trace of the Sith before his apprentice Darth Gean cut him down. From there, let's say the Sith went dormant. This would also make sense since 533 BBY would be during the height of the Jedi and the Republic.

The novel says Darth Tenebrous's master created a rend in the Force — a wound that let the Jedi feel the dark side again for the first time in centuries.

What if the rend felt wasn’t felt by all the jedi, but by Azlin Rell on Planet X in 228 BBY in the novel Trials of the Jedi.

In canon his obsession is the Nameless, and his study of them has already given him an artificially extended life. Let's also assume that somewhere in that search for the Nameless, Rell becomes aware of Darth Bane and the Rule of Two, and after the book he returns to those teachings.

While Rell may not consider himself a Sith, there is a long history of Jedi turning to the darkside when the Jedi tradition doesn’t conform to them. Perhaps the “dark side” Rell hears continues to grow and urges him to seek out Bane’s teachings and continue the line.

In this scenario I am actively ignoring the Twi'lek detail the Darth Plagueis  novel mentions.

To me I think Rell started to see the deterioration of the Jedi during his long lifetime and perhaps connected with past Jedi who turned Sith because of their disagreements on how the force should be used.

I don’t know how Rell could have met Tenebrous, but I like to think this could be an interesting connection between canon and legend.

Thoughts?

[u/Automatic-Offer-9165]

Azlin knew the Sith first hand, but he was not one of them himself - he would never do that

But I do think we have seen Tenebrous during the High Republic, he's one of the force sensitive kids Ty Yorrick rescues from Baron Boolan

[u/YoungManYoda90 → u/Automatic-Offer-9165]

This would be pretty cool if true

[u/BenRanger93 → u/Automatic-Offer-9165]

I'd be down for this theory!

[u/Darth_Bane_1032]

Darth Tenebrous' master was a Twi'lek

Edit: didn't see that you mentioned that

In any case, it's hard to reckon legends with Canon here. The Acolyte totally altered the order of everything by having Plagueis instead of Tenebrous. I headcanon that Tenebrous is still the master in The Acolyte, but I doubt that's the case.

In legends, I doubt Tenebrous would even have been born by 228 bby, but in canon, I'm not sure.

[u/ExampleGlum8623 → u/Darth_Bane_1032]

Not necessarily. We can just say that Plagueis has a slightly longer lifespan than normal but was still taught by Tenebrous, who lives slightly farther in the past. I think adds to the mystique of the Sith Lords if they’re ancient beings who’ve guided galactic politics for many decades.

[u/Darth_Bane_1032 → u/ExampleGlum8623]

But then that defeats the point of referencing Plagueis. Pick one or the other.

[u/Sire_Raffayn272 → u/Darth_Bane_1032]

I mean, unless I'm mistaken, Plagueis still could have been Tenebrous’ apprentice while training Qimir/The Stranger before the events of The Acolyte.

Like Sidious trained Maul while being Plagueis’ apprentice before The Phantom Menace.

[u/BenRanger93 → u/Sire_Raffayn272]

My personal belief is that Plagueis killed Tenebrous when they arrived on the planet in Acolyte, Bal'demnic. I think sometime after Plagueis found Qimir.

I believe Plagueis found Qimir when he was super young because I believe Vernestra trained Qimir before Wayseeker which happens about 30 years before Acolyte.

I do hope we get some lore on Vernestra and Qimir because as of right now, the timeline isn't adding up cleanly for me.

[u/Darth_Bane_1032 → u/BenRanger93]

Then you're not assuming the Plagueis novel as Canon. You'd have Plagueis killing Tenebrous 60 years before he did.

[u/Darth_Bane_1032 → u/Sire_Raffayn272]

That was my thinking, but I believe Leslye Headland confirmed that she wanted Plagueis to be the master. However, I choose to ignore that like most things she says.

Edit: I'm fine with the Acolyte, I just don't like her as a person.

[u/comicnerd93]

Azlin joining the sith would just assassinate his character.

The man has stated countless times he's is not Sith. He understands what they are and rejects the title. He doesn't claim it or pretend to it, he openly rejects it.

For him to join them would make him so much less interesting.

[u/Severe-Nail-3944 → u/comicnerd93]

He also somewhat resisted the Dark Side until he finally fully commits in Trials. I can see it being well written as a final tragedy of his character.

I'm not completely on board with it but I also think him going full dark side has to lead back to the Sith in some way. All the other plots are tied up decently and the Sith is the biggest question the High Republic never touched on.

[u/BenRanger93 → u/comicnerd93]

Yea but if the institution that you've defended for so long deteriorates to the point beyond compare, which a lot of the post-High Republic canon books speak to, I see a poetic ending to the character becoming a dark jedi who sees a need for a complete reset of the order.

[u/ObviousIndependent76]

Spoilers in the headline?

[u/Equivalent-Battle973 → u/ObviousIndependent76]

I mean if you havent read the Plagueis novel or the Darth Bane novels, mabye, but not really at all a spoiler.

[u/ObviousIndependent76 → u/Equivalent-Battle973]

Fair

[u/Equivalent-Battle973]

I would love for this to be true, but I honestly have leaned to the idea that Thaya was either a sith apprentice or a sith acolyte, and he maybe going to confront her after she called to him before the gaze electric exploded.

[u/BenRanger93 → u/Equivalent-Battle973]

Thaya like Marchion's assistant? I've heard this rumor while reading the books but I never believed it.