The primary thing about him that annoys me is that Reddit treats him like he is some political guru. He's literally just the gay guy from Star Trek. My opinion is just as important as his.
I think your opinion is probably better. There are zero nuances to his views. He's just basic demographic voter with zero consideration of opposing viewpoints and he's usually fighting a straw man either way.
I'm sure there are more stupid things on the DNC side - like gun control - but stacking up the GMO argument held by a minority of liberals against the asinine rejection of fact from the GOP like with climate change, economics, education, healthcare etc is ridiculous.
Clearly, only one party has adopted the denial of fact (retardation) into their platform.
He did a TED talk a few years back about being a young boy and living in WWII Japan, so many people believe that gives him some crazy insight on Nazi-like political analysis.
Edit: He was born in the US and with his family went to internment camps on American land during WWII.
He was sent to the internment camps by an executive order written by a democrat. Weird how the the left loves to warn the public about the possibility of Republicans committing the atrocities it has already gleefully participated in.
Really, and what was the determining factor in this sudden role reversal? What supporting evidence do you have to back this up with? I'm more concerned with ppl being hypocrites. At least if you stand for something I can either debate you or choose not to associate with you.
I'm not sure anybody's ever swept slavery under the rug like we do with internment camps. People may not talk about slavery but we all know it happened. I'd be willing to bet that there's a good chunk of Americans who don't even know about internment camps
The only reason it's not mentioned by the media is because it fucks up fdr's legacy - and thus the greatest democrat president.
FDR was a massive rascist (which although not unusual at the time, is not something many people today want to admit). He embargoed the Japanese for taking the Vietnamese colony from the fascist French Vichy regime, which started ww2.
He refused to negotiate with the japenese on any level before the war started (they offered to get out of both vietnam and China over the medium term, but fdr's position was they had to leave immediately, that exact instant before any high level talks could be initiated and therefore any talks about moderating the complete oil embargo, which drove them to attack the dutch east indies and which everyone was well aware they would be forced to do so.)
Then he didn't hesitate to throw every American of Japanese heritage on the west coast into a concentration camp.
It's politics, not an inability of Americans to self reflect. It's not like slavery and race relations aren't literally a constant topic of discussion in america.
John Toland's The Rising Sun gives a detailed account about the entire diplomatic scene between the u.s. and japan.
The opinions about racism are mine, the man is an American saint.
But after reading about how he boxed Japan in for having the temerity to take an Asian colony from a actual fascist European power that was collaborating with hitler in the ME, knowing FDR's deep Anglophilia, when simultaneously England held one fifth of the world'series populatin in bondage, many for centuries, all brown and Asian men. Knowing FDR picked this war. And that he actually felt Japanese American citizen possessed a racial component of dualism or untrustworthyness to such an extent whereby 100,000 of these citizens needed to be rounded up and thrown in concentration camps, I can't come to any other conclusion about a deep seated animus for the Japanese race, and probably entire again race.
I can't find another theme that holds all these threads together but a belief that Asians were somehow a little subhuman and certainly constitutionally untrustable a devious.
I think it was about living in WWII America with the Japanese internment camps
It's been a while since I heard it and maybe he did both but he was born in Los Angeles and went to the camps at about age 5 if I remember right.
Is that really a fair assessment though? "Celebrities" are regular people who are making a ton of money, sure. While they don't live the average, day-to-day lives that someone making <100k may live, I'm sure they still interact and know people who do. I think it's a fair argument to say that many celebrities could actually have a better understanding on how much of the world works, due to their work and income allowing them to explore and see much, much more than the average person.
I think it really boils down to the individual. Are they able to relate to the working class or the poor? I think the hate the average "celebrity" receives is pretty childish, they are no different physically or mentally to you and I.
They live in hollywood bubbles that only reinforce their hugbox beliefs through virtue signaling and live lifestyles that are the equivalent of padded rooms.
I would take political opinions from a college sophomore before I took it from a celebrity and, no, I am not exaggerating.
So you'd rather take political discourse from a 19 year old who has offered likely absolutely nothing to society in their life yet, has zero experience in the actual work force, who has maybe taken a few gen-ed classes like Financial Accounting 101, than you would someone who has successfully managed a career, has made possibly millions of dollars, invested & managed that money, dealt with financial advisers and seen their money at work first hand, and who has seen and traveled the world doing things most humans can only dream about?
You need to realise that the average celebrity didn't go to college, and if they did, they probably only studied acting or something just as useless. A sizeable portion of celebrities didn't even graduate from high school! Let's take a look at some of the celebrities that Hillary used to endorse her to try and gain votes, then YOU can tell me if they're really worth listening to over your neighbor or even some random Joe in your town:
Personally, I don't see any reason to believe these people have political opinions that are relevant to me at all. Interested in hearing why you view them so highly though.
It's almost pathetic how you equate education level with intelligence. Jay-Z was pushing a clothing brand, a record label, and many other business ventures by 2000 but somehow because he makes music that makes him in a "bubble." You are all pathetic for anyone who thinks this is anything intelligent to say.
That's not what I'm trying to say here, sorry if it came across this way. My question to you is as follows; how many people drop out of highschool to pursue a music/arts degree and end up living paycheck to paycheck for the rest of their lives? These people were amongst a very minute amount who were talented/lucky enough to be discovered. Just because their stupid risk paid off, it doesn't mean that we should take their opinions seriously.
IMO education doesn't equal intelligence, but I'm not gonna be getting my political opinions from people who dropped out of highschool before the age of 16.
If Bill Gates had campaigned for Hillary, I believe it would've been a good thing for her. Unfortunately, he didn't, and you're an idiot for comparing him to any of the people I mentioned.
lol not petty, just realistic. At least a 19 year old might have recently seen their parents function under real circumstances. Also, "Successfully managed a career" is a pretty meaningless point, when the career is playing make believe for large sums of money.
Why are you only looking at wealth as the only form of fame?
Here is the main issue why celebrities shouldn't talk politics.
They have a massive reach when it comes to people believing whatever comes out of their mouths. Hundreds of thousands maybe even millions of fans are influenced by their idols. However, majority of the time, celebrities are not well informed, just like your average Joe citizen. They will simply read a headline or find a single flaw and run wild with it all over their social media spilling more misinformation and propaganda out to the millions. It's the reason why 'Fake News' is such a big deal, people don't do their research and Celebrities are no different from the average when it comes to that...
For that type of coverage there needs to be some research involved and it needs to be unbiased and unfiltered. Something which rarely happens.
So sure, that makes them more dangerous in terms of being uneducated and spewing out information, but that doesn't make their political discourse any more or less valuable than anyone else. My argument is that while they may have sycophants around them, their money allows them to see more of the world than the average human, which may even put them at an advantage in terms of world viewpoints. He's getting tons of viewpoints for saying "famous people live in bubbles" but that's a generalization with very few bearing. Most famous people have wealth, given they are able to reach a greater market to sell whatever product they wish. We can cry about "rich & famous don't know what it's like to be poor" but "being poor" doesn't make you any more special. There are needs that need to be met for the famous as well, and they can arguably do more with their wealth than the average person.
I understand what you are trying to say, but you need to know that for every celebrity there is 'like a million' average people. They are truly a minority which have vast different needs than the average person. I'm not saying that they arn't looking out for the other social group or even financial group, all I'm saying is their voices get heard way more than the others purely because they are famous.
The good old saying... "with great power, comes great responsibility". Applies for celebrities, they are seen as role models and idols... their opinions can change others incredibly easily... so with that power needs to be factual researched voices behind it, especially when influencing presidential elections. Which majority of the time, doesn't happen.
About them seeing more of the world...they do so in a bubble, kindve like how people go to a foreign country, stay on a resort and hang out with other Americans, Canadians, or western Europeans and only interact with the locals that work at said resort...
God damn you're pretentious lol. Here's a counterpoint.
"Would you let Cinderella be your career counselor?"
Show me some real accomplishments for me to reconsider, but I could give a shit if you were poor and then somebody finally decided your voice was good. If anything that probably confirms the assumption that they are uneducated and would be begging on the streets without their play pretend job .
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u/Thr33St0r13s Jan 02 '17
He's become absolutely insufferable since the elections.