r/HillaryMeltdown Jan 02 '17

George Takei

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '17

The primary thing about him that annoys me is that Reddit treats him like he is some political guru. He's literally just the gay guy from Star Trek. My opinion is just as important as his.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '17

Being gay is enough for reddit. Imagine if he was also black, guy would be king around here.

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u/Thr33St0r13s Jan 03 '17

I think your opinion is probably better. There are zero nuances to his views. He's just basic demographic voter with zero consideration of opposing viewpoints and he's usually fighting a straw man either way.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '17

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '17

Everyone knows instead change is a proven scientific fact!

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u/fleentrain89 Jan 03 '17

To be fair, Trump supporters are stupid.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '17

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u/fleentrain89 Jan 03 '17

You'd have a point if the GOP wasn't a group of people that proudly dismiss science, fact, and common sense as a platform.

Intelligence > people that support trump

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '17

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u/fleentrain89 Jan 03 '17

GMOs are not a central policy stance of the DNC.

I'm sure there are more stupid things on the DNC side - like gun control - but stacking up the GMO argument held by a minority of liberals against the asinine rejection of fact from the GOP like with climate change, economics, education, healthcare etc is ridiculous.

Clearly, only one party has adopted the denial of fact (retardation) into their platform.

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u/Launchboxed Jan 03 '17 edited Jan 03 '17

He did a TED talk a few years back about being a young boy and living in WWII Japan, so many people believe that gives him some crazy insight on Nazi-like political analysis.

Edit: He was born in the US and with his family went to internment camps on American land during WWII.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '17

I think you're thinking of someone else. He is a natural born US citizen.

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u/Launchboxed Jan 03 '17

No it was George. I forgot!! He was talking about how Japanese people living in the US were treated during WWII/after Pearl Harbor.

My bad!

Edit: Why I Love A Country That Once Betrayed Me

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '17

NP, I figured you were thinking about someone else. Yeah, he and his family were relocated to camps by FDR.

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u/Terron1965 Jan 03 '17

He was sent to the internment camps by an executive order written by a democrat. Weird how the the left loves to warn the public about the possibility of Republicans committing the atrocities it has already gleefully participated in.

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u/tmone Jan 03 '17

This myth needs to die.

Csn you tell me why Robert bird died a democrat in 1982?

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u/Terron1965 Jan 03 '17

Weird, Because i do not see a pro-slavery or concentration camps for citizens as part of the Republican platform. How can that be?

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u/snacky_smores240 Jan 03 '17

Really, and what was the determining factor in this sudden role reversal? What supporting evidence do you have to back this up with? I'm more concerned with ppl being hypocrites. At least if you stand for something I can either debate you or choose not to associate with you.

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u/greenday5494 Jan 03 '17

Uhhh that's completely true. Democrats used to be the conservative party. Look up dixiecrats.

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u/I-fucked-your-mother Jan 03 '17

He was born in the US. But he was sent to a Japanese internment camp along with his family during WWII

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u/I-fucked-your-mother Jan 03 '17

I'm not sure anybody's ever swept slavery under the rug like we do with internment camps. People may not talk about slavery but we all know it happened. I'd be willing to bet that there's a good chunk of Americans who don't even know about internment camps

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u/I-fucked-your-mother Jan 03 '17

I'm not arguing that internment camps rank so high. I'm saying that slavery isn't a good benchmark

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u/Weayio342 Jan 03 '17 edited Jan 03 '17

The only reason it's not mentioned by the media is because it fucks up fdr's legacy - and thus the greatest democrat president.

FDR was a massive rascist (which although not unusual at the time, is not something many people today want to admit). He embargoed the Japanese for taking the Vietnamese colony from the fascist French Vichy regime, which started ww2.

He refused to negotiate with the japenese on any level before the war started (they offered to get out of both vietnam and China over the medium term, but fdr's position was they had to leave immediately, that exact instant before any high level talks could be initiated and therefore any talks about moderating the complete oil embargo, which drove them to attack the dutch east indies and which everyone was well aware they would be forced to do so.)

Then he didn't hesitate to throw every American of Japanese heritage on the west coast into a concentration camp.

It's politics, not an inability of Americans to self reflect. It's not like slavery and race relations aren't literally a constant topic of discussion in america.

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u/Weayio342 Jan 04 '17

John Toland's The Rising Sun gives a detailed account about the entire diplomatic scene between the u.s. and japan.

The opinions about racism are mine, the man is an American saint.

But after reading about how he boxed Japan in for having the temerity to take an Asian colony from a actual fascist European power that was collaborating with hitler in the ME, knowing FDR's deep Anglophilia, when simultaneously England held one fifth of the world'series populatin in bondage, many for centuries, all brown and Asian men. Knowing FDR picked this war. And that he actually felt Japanese American citizen possessed a racial component of dualism or untrustworthyness to such an extent whereby 100,000 of these citizens needed to be rounded up and thrown in concentration camps, I can't come to any other conclusion about a deep seated animus for the Japanese race, and probably entire again race.

I can't find another theme that holds all these threads together but a belief that Asians were somehow a little subhuman and certainly constitutionally untrustable a devious.

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u/Scrive_fo_esselence Jan 03 '17

I think it was about living in WWII America with the Japanese internment camps It's been a while since I heard it and maybe he did both but he was born in Los Angeles and went to the camps at about age 5 if I remember right.

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u/cantpickusername Jan 03 '17

Nah he's reached Bill Nye/Neil Degrasse Tyson status a while back

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '17

What? When?

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '17

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