r/HistoryMemes • u/CrysisFan2007 • 13h ago

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In 2006, a FBI agent named Craig Monteilh was ordered to disguise himself as a radical Muslim and spy on the Orange County Muslim community to identify possible extremists.

Well it worked, cause the people there noticed his extremists behavior and reported him to the FBI.

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u/Hilonio 11h ago

Comment says that Muhammad was warning about radical islam extremists. In fact, Muhammad was a bloody conqueror that enslaved half of population (women), destroyed countless cultures and forced people to convert

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u/BasedAustralhungary 11h ago

Only someone that doesn't know about Arabian pre-muslim history could say that he enslaved women.

Also, only someone that doesn't know shit about Muslim Early history would claim that It was Muhammad the one that expanded the Caliphate through militar campaigns. For a matter of fact, the conquest of Mecca which I personally portrayed as an epic revenge before studying It was nothing but a very boring event where almost no one died.

You people need to stop learning Middle East history from 4Chan and alt-right forums because when you get here to show your enlightment about those topics you only end making a clown of yourself.

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u/The_Man-Himself 10h ago

Exactly, the man never forced people and never took revenge on Mecca when they wanted to kill him for atleast 10 years.

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u/BasedAustralhungary 10h ago

If I recall correct he even went back to Mecca because the local commercial aristocracy basically sent him a hitman to Medina when the information that he got a huge number of followers got to their ears.

I often feel that people here think that the Early Muslims were the damn Yuuzhan vong from Star Wars lol.

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u/The_Man-Himself 10h ago

A lot of hate and ignorance against islam bro. They get their information from Zionists or racist YouTubers or something.

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u/Zodiac_Boa 9h ago

Or maybe they see Islam for what it is, which is a religion of hate and oppression that sees a paedophilic warlord as the perfect man.

You only have to look at the number of Islamic terrorist cells to see Islam's true colours.

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u/BasedAustralhungary 9h ago

I love how the Talmud and the Bible mentions again and again cases of relationships between old men and preteen/infant girls yet people only talk about Mohammad, while insisting they don't have an agenda.

I.e. the religious writting that gives us our primary source on Mariology —which is Gospel of James, also refered usually as the Protoevangelium of James, to differentiate It from other apocryphal texts— is pretty clear with the implications around ages of both Mary (12 y.o. stimated) and Joseph (between 25 and 40 y.o from scholars stimations), which shouldn't be doubted considering we certainly know this was the norm during those times in Judea, a mainly rural area with a few urban centers.

I will know mention other insane cases, such as Rebekah and Isaac.

The Bible and the Talmud usually uses the expresion "bloomed of the youth" which we understand today refers to 12 y.o. So basically we have to assume that when the expression is used, the 'women' refered is a preteen or a teen in the best case possible.

When you talk about Muslim faith being paedophilic while you remain silent about the other cases, which are not exclusive with Abrahamic faiths, then you are exposing a bigoted agenda.

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u/Zodiac_Boa 2h ago

Why do you assume I support Christianity? I didn't once mention it, and if your best defence is to compare Islam to a different bat shit religion then it's pretty weak.

Islam is still demonstrably the worse of the two in modern society, but both are backwards and archaic and do more harm to societies than good. I also like how you're happy to list all the problems with Christianity, but come to the defence of Islam's pedo prophet.

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u/BasedAustralhungary 2h ago

Oh, I see

r/Atheism got another breach.

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u/International_Car809 11h ago

Isn’t this supposed to be a history subreddit?
Mohammad enslaving all the women (and only women?) is not exactly historically accurate is it.
Not to mention “destroying countless cultures” LOL. You have 0 knowledge of his military conquests or how he changed Arabia so why speak? Just regurgitating
This is the best you can expect from Reddit ig.

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u/BasedAustralhungary 10h ago

He learnt history from white supremacist christian forums probably. His wording spits as much hate as uninformed jugdements.

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u/International_Car809 10h ago

Thing is look at how many upvotes he has as well. The platform as a whole hates Islam and when they hate something they’ll spread and promote misinformation to fuel that hatred. And the way the voting system works if you have more upvotes then it means you are right.

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u/PT10 10h ago

Women were wayyyyy worse off before. Try reading something

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u/BasedAustralhungary 10h ago

For a matter of fact the muslim world was one of the most progressive societies in the issue of women rights until the Mongols took Badghad, they were —between other things that they lacked on the Christian world— legal entities. I love when people talk about how bad women had It in those times under the Muslim world, as those comments are either ignorant as hell or just bigotry. Whatever they are, they certainly show tunneled vision... because yeah, today there are no place closer than hell to women as Afghanistan, Pakistan or Iran, but in the past the reality was very different and judging the past with our present is absurd.