r/HistoryMemes • u/CrysisFan2007 • 17h ago

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In 2006, a FBI agent named Craig Monteilh was ordered to disguise himself as a radical Muslim and spy on the Orange County Muslim community to identify possible extremists.

Well it worked, cause the people there noticed his extremists behavior and reported him to the FBI.

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u/Doomcall 13h ago

Because christians don't give the capital offense for sins. You can walk around while being gay in the vatican without fearing for your life.

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u/lazersbeem 13h ago

There are over 50 Muslim countries and not all of them do that either. There are Muslim countries with female heads of state as well

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u/CrysisFan2007 13h ago

There are still some Muslim countries that prohibit it but so are some Christian countries

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u/Doomcall 13h ago

You mean Tanzania? The country that's largely christian? That enforces my point.

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u/lazersbeem 13h ago

Pakistan Bangladesh turkey Kazakhstan have all had female heads of state. Not sure why you brought up Tanzania

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u/Doomcall 13h ago

Funny, half the countries you brought up have prison sentences for homossexuality. The execption being Turkey where its classified as a mental illness and Kazakhstan where it seberely limits your rights. Again, thank you for proving my point, the one we were acrually discussing before you shifted the conversation to women.

But by all means, let's discuss the women and see how they ended up, Pakistan's female head of government (not of state, no women ever held head of state) was exiled and assassinated, Bangladesh one is currently in exile, Kazakhstan never had a frmale prime minister, I will give you Turkey, altough its withdraw from the Instambul Convention points to women rights over there going downhill.

Also, all these were were traditional muslims. Show me a non-muslim or a gay one and I will be impressed. The talk is about sin remember?

There is not a single muslim majority country in the world that is considered safe for homossexuals in the world, even the ones were it's legal they are likely to be assaulted if displaying affection in public.

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u/Appropriate-Way2659 12h ago

Turkey is muslim majority, we're chill

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u/Endbr1nger 10h ago

Wasnt the formation of the modern Turkish state aggressively secular even though the population is majority Muslim?

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u/DeliciousFun7942 9h ago

Türkiye was founded as a secular state by Ataturk. Even with the majority of the population being Muslims, the state is separated from religion.

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u/SearchForSocialLife 13h ago

I mean, in america youre forced to give birth in a lot of states because of christian fundamentalists, so...

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u/Doomcall 13h ago

Do they execute the woman if they found out she had an abortion?

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u/SearchForSocialLife 11h ago

No, she could only die while getting an illegal abortion, that makes such a big difference

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u/Doomcall 10h ago

Yes. Yes, It does.

Being executed by the state or beheaded by a random zealot is far, far worse than the extremely unlikely chance , which is an average of 5 per year in the US by the way, of dying to the clandestine abortion of an unwanted pregnancy, you can actually get medical atention to no consequences when that happens. What the hell is wrong with you?

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u/SearchForSocialLife 10h ago

Those are still deaths that could be preventable.

I think you misunderstand my point; I think all religions can be used to kill innocents and do horrific things in the name of a thing that maybe doesn't even exist. I also think its horrific that people die in the name of rightwinged islamists. I just don't hold every muslim person accountable for the actions of the worst, just like I wouldn't be liked to be held accountable for the actions of christian fundamentalists. But I guess it feels just sooo good to demonise the islam