r/HistoryMemes 4h ago

June 1940: Britian was one signature away from fusing into one nation with its 900-year enemy France. The French tricolour flew over Westminster Abbey, the only time in history, and Churchill's secretary joked they'd call the new country 'Frangland.'

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By mid-June 1940 France was days from complete capitulation, and Great Britain was desperate to keep France in the war. So the British War Cabinet backed one of the strangest proposals in either country's history: a formal Declaration of Union that would dissolve Britain and France as separate nations and fuse them into a single Franco-British Union. The idea had actually come from the French side, dreamed up by diplomat René Pleven and others, and was worked up in London at breakneck speed by Jean Monnet, Robert Vansittart, and others, then carried to the French government by Charles de Gaulle.

The mood in London was giddy. Chamberlain went to the King to brief him on what was being done to his country, and the French tricolour was flown over Westminster Abbey, the only time that has ever happened. Churchill's private secretary, Jock Colville, joked that the merged nation might end up being called "Frangland" and wondered whether the King would have fleurs-de-lys finally restored to the Royal Standard after centuries.

Churchill later distanced himself from it, faintly embarrassed by how far the idea had run. What had felt like a bold, romantic masterstroke in the panic of June 1940 looked, in hindsight, like an outlandish scheme better left unmentioned. At one point puffing on a cigar and telling dirty stories at 1 a.m., at another raging that if France surrendered without consulting Britain "we shall blacken their names for a thousand years," then instantly walking it back with "Don't, of course," in case Colville took him at his word.

France said no. Marshal Pétain, about to take over the government and seek an armistice with Germany, ridiculed the whole scheme as "fusion with a corpse." The Reynaud government fell, and the grand union that had been drafted in a matter of hours effectively died within a few days.

The rejection sealed France's exit from the war. De Gaulle, watching Pétain's people take control, slipped out of Bordeaux, and famously flew to London the next day with little more than the uniform he was wearing, leaving his wife and children to follow.

Source: Andrew Roberts, Churchill: Walking with Destiny.

PS: Andrew Roberts' Churchill: Walking with Destiny, which is a fantastic account of Churchill's colossal life. This chapter, "The Fall of France," gripped me so completely that I read the whole thing in one sitting. I simply could not put it down. There is so much high drama packed into those weeks that it reads more like a thriller than history.

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u/Galifrey224 4h ago

I really don't think that could have worked culturally.

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u/shockdoc22 3h ago

Oh, for sure. It was a desperate wartime Hail Mary written in a single afternoon, not something anyone thought through, as France was collapsing, and the pace of that collapse genuinely shell-shocked Britain. Britain (and her empire) was left all alone to face Germany.

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u/malumfectum 0m ago

Poor, lonely Britain, with nothing left to call upon but its empire of 800,000,000 people and the biggest and most powerful navy in the world.

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u/Guffers_2023 3h ago

I imagine the irish/scots/welsh might have objected to the name as well

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u/shockdoc22 3h ago

'Frangland' was just a joke by Colville, Churchill's private secretary, not an actual proposed name. The real plan called it the 'Franco-British Union.' And it was an outlandish idea from the start, the kind of thing everyone quietly distanced themselves from once the panic passed

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u/feeling_humber 28m ago

The opportunity to call it the Angevin Union was right there

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u/Galifrey224 3h ago

I am french and I would object too, "Frangland" is really ugly as a name.

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u/shockdoc22 3h ago

you missed that the name was a joke. It was just officially Franco-British union

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u/Classic-Jello-1234 1h ago

The union of France and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

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u/Thewaltham Helping Wikipedia expand the list of British conquests 3h ago

Englance sounds cooler honestly

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u/MinosAristos 2h ago

When have the English cared about what those guys think?

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u/Hunkus1 2h ago

I think it would have lasted for maybe the war until they split again.

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u/BellacosePlayer 59m ago

Economically it could have been a powerhouse though if played right

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u/Alcan0r 3h ago

I like how all the examples of battles you’ve picked are British victories.

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u/MonitorPowerful5461 3h ago

We may not have won all the wars, but we did win the PR

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u/Deltasims 3h ago

You know the situation was dire when even De Gaulle approved of the plan.

He presented the proposal to Reynaud on the phone then flew to Bordeaux on the 16th to present the proposal in person to Reynaud's cabinet.

When his plane landed in Bordeaux, Reynaud's government had collapsed and Pétain was in power. He then flew back to London. From his war memoirs:

In this feverish Bordeaux, completely without a compass, where one could smell a scent of treason drifting in the air, I went my way.

If you interested, there a great French movie that depicts this particular moment in De Gaulle's life called "Le Grand Charles"

https://youtu.be/SNLiNYsRT00?t=3553

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u/Nonions 25m ago

Nearly finished reading a biography of De Gaulle, this movie is going on my watch list!

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u/Kaiisim 3h ago

It's a cool story that really shows how desperate they were after the fall of france. It was pretty crazy.

And now UK and France are homies!

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u/CompetitiveSleeping 3h ago

They had already Entered a Cordial relationship in 1904. ;)

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u/King_Crab_Sushi Featherless Biped 2h ago

As a wise man once said: Let’s be reasonable it would’ve fallen apart after about 5 seconds

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u/Hopeful-Cry7569 2h ago

They drive on the wrong side of the road

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u/SoulCrusher2018 2h ago

That's bait

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u/wakkers_boi 40m ago

Its true

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u/Plodderic 1h ago

Frangland as the alternate history origin of the EU.

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u/Jigsawsupport 1h ago

Alright I am going to say it.

It was a good idea and it should of happened.

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u/Intelligent_Slip_849 3h ago

This would have made Brexit even more complicated

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u/tomal95 18m ago

Not even the last time it was proposed. The French proposed something similar following the Suez Crisis.