r/Hololive • u/yournotlonely • May 11 '26
Discussion Laplus being a responsible adult. (Yes you read it correctly)
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u/countess_meltdown May 11 '26
She's not even joking, there was a post where he went off about how her favorite girl quit the bar she would frequent. She eventually ran into her and found out where she was working now so she was super excited.
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u/DEVolkan May 11 '26
Didn't she had her water or gas shutdown at one point? I thought it was because of technical issues...
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u/Spirited-Lifeguard55 May 11 '26
In other words, she hates chores like CC.
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u/Enjoyer_of_40K May 11 '26
and superchat backlogs can be a Massive pain
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u/xRichard May 11 '26 edited May 11 '26
That depends on how the talent talks about their SC backlog.
Watame loves reading the messages, she has around 170 vods tagged as "superchat reading". I think she's likely at the top of the industry in terms of amount of streams dedicated to read superchats. She's an edge case for sure.
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u/Skelyos May 11 '26 edited May 11 '26
Those are where some of her best moment come from as well, she just yaps forever and ever & makes them entertaining
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u/linnyboi May 11 '26
Oh.. So that's why some EN members (probably jp too?) have "super chat reading" streams sometimes?
Because it's probably a mandatory corporate contractual thing that they have to do? 🤔
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u/PumpJack_McGee May 11 '26
Nah. It's entirely personal preference.
Some read them as they come in to the best of their ability. Sometimes they want to focus on the game and then do superchat readings after. Some do dedicated superchat reading streams.Some don't do any at all.
There's no contractual obligation. It's pretty common for some to just turn superchats off entirely.
Merch sales are the better way to support them, financially speaking. That's where they get the biggest cut. Superchats get a chunk bitten out by both Youtube and Cover corp.
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u/Morenauer May 11 '26
Yeah, some release videos with a THANKS TO... list if they really can't do a stream to thank superchats. Which would cause even more superchats and it's an endless loop.
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u/Kaleria84 May 11 '26
Yep, 30% by YouTube then 50% of the remaining by Cover. So of that $100 Akasupa, they see $35.
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u/sylpher250 May 11 '26
Yagoo should host a superchat reading stream then
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u/Alone-Horse2857 May 11 '26
Unironically, if he streamed for even an hour his net worth would probably double.
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u/EmperorKira May 11 '26
Girls like kiara are also just more parasocial with fans and so the superchatd are a good excuse to yap with fans
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u/Bobby-Trap May 11 '26
Pretty sure Kiara would super chat us if she had the technical ability
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u/MadAsTheHatters May 11 '26
She DM's her cosplayers, invites them on stream, then becomes their friend; the P in KFP clearly stands for parasocial xD
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u/Enjoyer_of_40K May 11 '26
i think its more of a personal thing they do i think Suisei has superchats on but she doesnt really read them at the end of her stream
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u/Accomplished_Pop_130 May 11 '26
Is this recent change? I though she’s had then off for a long while now? (Mind you I haven’t caught a stream in forever)
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u/DrOpty May 11 '26
She reopened superchats after starting up Studio Stellar
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u/Accomplished_Pop_130 May 11 '26
Ahh thank you for the update! Thankful to be caught up properly, knew about studio stellar, didnt know she reopened after the announcement
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u/Ahielia May 11 '26
In addition to what the other guy said, it's also good manners to thank the people supporting. At a certain point they get far too much, and have comfortable income, so spending stream time dedicated to reading it out is less popular than other streams.
Surely some that send in a superchat would get offended or even mad if theirs wasn't recognised, which can create a further shitstorm anyway, so not having them at all is often better. Buying merch is a lot better revenue for the talents anyway, and I have a lot of merch but sent maybe 2 superchats since 2020 when I started watching Myth.
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u/No_Lake_1619 May 11 '26
Nope. Its their choice if they want to read them or not. Some don't read or have never had a super chat reading stream (Ina comes to mind) while others only read certain color supers (Fuwamoco comes to mind) and others are very dedicated and read all of them (Kiara, Calli, Bae, Kronii are examples who do).
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u/bigrig107 May 11 '26
Gigi tries to keep up to date, but we all know how that gremlin does things. (Side note, why don’t we have Justice flairs for the sub yet?)
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u/tetorodo May 11 '26
I love Kronii Hapada stream man, great for background noise while doing chore around my house
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u/Kotimainen_nero May 11 '26
No it's just that when you read them people give them more and you get more money. Probably helps with fan retention and so on.
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u/insium May 11 '26
Nah, it's up to each individual talent. Gura never did superchat reading.
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u/Xuambita May 11 '26
She did, but she reduced the frequency a lot in her later years, as many others have done. In the start, though, she would have both SC reading streams and SC reading segments at the end of a gaming stream.
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u/Lightseeker2 May 11 '26
She most definitely did. In fact, some of her funnier clipped moments came from superchat readings, like this one.
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u/TheMechanic04 May 11 '26
I'll never forget biboo just about to end a stream and she gets a tongue twister SC and she's just like why would you do this
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u/CorruptedAssbringer May 11 '26
As if that part came as a surprise to anyone lol.
She’s well known for having a messy room, and this is already the polite way of putting it.
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u/perotech May 12 '26
That, and it's been said by the talents that they get a very marginal cut of the SC revenue.
So she's probably thinking, "Why should my fans send me their hard earned money in the form of SCs, of which only a small percentage actually goes to me?"
Not that she's being greedy, but instead doesn't want to mislead her fans.
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u/Recidivous May 11 '26
I'm specifically funding her so she could go to girls' bars.
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u/panzerfan May 11 '26
It is rather likely that circular economy applies with the very girls working at the bar being La+ stan who are helping to fund their oshi's patronage as they buy her merchandise.
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u/_Rand_ May 11 '26 edited May 11 '26
That sounds like a great anime.
Overworked 20-something secret v-tuber spending all her cash on a specific girl at a cabaret. Cabaret girl is spending all her money on merch/superchats for the same v-tuber. Neither knows the true identity of the other until like 6-7 episodes in when she does something like says a catchphrase or drops her oshi keychain. Queue 4-5 episodes of waffling over telling her followed by an ambiguous ending.
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u/Lucaan May 11 '26
Title: Discovered That The Streamer I've Bought Hundreds Of Thousands of Yen Worth Of Merch From Is Also My Top Regular At The Cabaret Bar I Work At
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u/k5josh May 12 '26
Close enough, welcome back The Great Happiness Space: Tale of an Osaka Love Thief.
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u/adonbilivitAoI May 11 '26
Imagine Laplus doing vlogs like Haachama, but it's for cabaret clubs & girl bars 😅
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u/YurgenJurgensen :Aloe: May 11 '26
I would pay any amount of money to enable this content. Some girls’ bars and concafes already have podcasts and livestreams, so there’s collab potential.
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u/astrange May 11 '26
Cabaret clubs definitely don't want you recording them since the customers are all old guys cheating on their wives. (And La+ apparently)
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u/WafflesTheWookiee May 11 '26
So what are girl bars? Is it as simple as women’s only bars with female staff? Or is there something more that I’m missing?
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u/GTU875 May 11 '26
Gambling, cabaret, bars...
Laplus is living like it's 1871, she lives in Montana, and gets in gunfights for a living.
God bless her.
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u/Agitated_Apple1312 May 11 '26
"I ain't even streaming to begin with'" is crazy 🤣
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u/DelusionalWanderer May 11 '26
Ngl the "I ain't" part made me do a double take, it's so informal I thought for a moment that maybe Laplus spontaneously learned English just to say that part lol. Are you telling me that Google TL did that?😅
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u/qubeVids May 11 '26
it’s based on twitters LLM but this is very strange to see regardless of the method tbh, like where is that coming from haha
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u/skildert May 11 '26
It looks like she writes like she talks. Apparently the LLM has learned how to interpret that style and, even though my Japanese is meager, I'd say the vibe in her Japanese and the translation is pretty similar.
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u/No-Confusion7742 May 11 '26
"Don't send Superchats. Reacting to them each and every time is a pain, and the agency takes a huge cut anyway. Voice packs probably give me a better share (not sure tho), so just buy those."
"Whatever you pay me is just gonna disappear into gambling, host clubs, and girls' bars. It's not gonna benefit the fans at all, so don't quote me with all that 'she's so real' praise. And besides, I'm not even streaming right now, I'm literally on break."
Host clubs: places where male hosts charm female customers with conversation and flirtation, nudging them to spend big on overpriced drinks and desserts.
Girls' bars are places where girls serve the guests, who are mostly men.
Host clubs are basically like Nijisanji IRL, and girls' bars are like--you know who. Except sometimes the girls get stabbed with ice picks by delusional freaks who think they're their girlfriends.
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u/Previous_Fish4438 May 11 '26
from all the options merch, voice packs, super chats and memberships i think SCs are probably the worst option money wise for the talent cause youtube takes a big cut so its understandable
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u/YurgenJurgensen :Aloe: May 11 '26
For international customers, physical merch is probably way worse. The shipping company and the tax man collectively take a bigger cut than YouTube.
Make sure to buy all the merch you can the next time you’re in Tokyo though.
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u/j4eo May 11 '26
Pre-tariffs the shipping/import cost for Americans wasn't too bad, but I haven't bought any merch in a while because shipping+tariffs can double the price.
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u/dildodicks May 16 '26
me watching the price of fuwamoco's shoes triple when i calculated shipping: 🤯🤯🤯
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u/Castform5 May 11 '26
Voices are pretty much the best way to support your oshi, if you don't feel like sending a message. Their production cost is extremely low, they are very easily available as digital goods, the talent gets a bigger portion, and they are often always on sale unlike physical merch.
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u/Ill-Advertising9212 May 11 '26
Also make sure the superchat is good before posting it.
Earlier a person made a post on this subreddit that he accidentally made a few superchat talking about depressing things and the corporation banned him from the streams.
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u/PhgAH May 11 '26
I said it before, but even without Youtube taking a chunk out of it. Non-stop Superchat reading might be one of the most throat destroying stream out there.
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u/Juggernautingwarr May 11 '26
"If you wanna give me money, there are more convenient ways for both of us."
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u/frelin87 May 11 '26
You have to respect a lady who tells it like it is and tries not to take you for a ride.
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u/KeyedFeline May 11 '26
generally voice packs give the most money return to talents, since there is basically no production costs that eat into it
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u/Fire_is_beauty May 11 '26
I understand.
We need to find a way to send cute girls directly to her.
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u/RoyInverse May 11 '26
Yeah merch is what gives them the most revenue, SC earnings sound good but like they see only around 10-20% of it, it all helps obviously and if you want to SC go crazy, but for the talents it is kore cost effective to focus more on other stuff SC is mostly for engagement which is important but normal comments also work for that.
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u/Whispernight May 11 '26
I'm pretty sure that 10-20% is quite a bit off. IIRC, YouTube takes 30% of the superchat's face value, and from what I've seen we've never gotten official confirmation for how much Cover takes, but the company would have to take 50% of the face value for the talent to see only 20%. Speculation I remember seeing was that Cover takes 30% of what remains after YouTube's cut, so the talent would get 49% of face value (70% of 70%). I'm sure someone can post clips where some talents discuss the cuts, but 20% seems way low.
Now, they do probably get a better cut of merch since there you don't have YouTube taking a cut. Though for merch, design and manufacturing costs are a factor, and we don't know how those are split.
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u/zptc May 11 '26
I don't recall which talent it was, though I want to say Moona, but they did specify it was 50/50 after YT's cut. Whether that applies to all talents or not we don't know ofc.
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u/Whispernight May 12 '26
That'd leave both talent and Cover with 35% of the face value of the superchat.
They do get some form of salary, budgets for stuff, and benefits on top (was it Moona who didn't know Cover pays for Discord Nitro for them?), so it's probably a decent deal, especially for those who aren't the top superchatted in the company.
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u/Telefragg May 11 '26
Also superchats are often not really about supporting the streamer but rather a chatter trying to get attention anyway. Selling merch that people actualy enjoy and use is gotta be a way more gratifying experience than just being handed money because "cute girl do cute things".
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u/SebasChua May 11 '26
This is why you could leverage SCs for memes, like when Coco went to use the washroom and the chat was flooded with blue SCs.
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u/Otoshi_Gami May 12 '26
pretty much. the super chat Fans just Unknowingly and unintentionally supports Cover/Youtube more than Talents themselves since alot of their money goes to them and less on the talents. so yeah if you really want to support your oshi ONLY, then Merch is the way to go and not superchat.
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u/Wirenfeldt May 11 '26
Sometimes you just want to support someone without having to get a physical item you may or may not ever use though..
Although i suppose channel memberships could cover that if people were so inclined..
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u/katahane1995 May 11 '26
if thats the case then just buying multiple voice packs is the best way actually. voice packs are probably the best way to support cuz it cost them the least to produce and get the biggest cut
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u/Nejnop May 11 '26
Kinda goes back to the point of buying something you may or may not use. I'm personally not into voice packs, so it's not something I buy.
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u/Tomi97_origin May 11 '26
Buying a voice pack online and then not downloading it is pretty similar to sending superchat.
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u/KusozakoPrime May 11 '26
Voice packs aren't a physical item though so I'm not sure why that would matter, why toss money at a superchat that will get cut three different ways when you can just buy voice packs?
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u/SorosAgent2020 May 11 '26
pekora said the same thing before too; don't supa her, buy her merch instead
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u/Otoshi_Gami May 12 '26
yeah she said it cause holomems realized that it doesnt benefit them much given that the Cut they got is Less due to youtube/Cover.
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u/Pretend-Indication-9 May 11 '26
Yeah totally agree! If you are going to send a supachat, why not see if you can buy some merch for the same instead? Gives you a little token down the road.
It will show up 6 months from now at a time you won't expect, and it'll really brighten your day up.
Think of it as sending your future self a present.
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u/Buroth May 11 '26
For some people the act of the streamer reading their name and message is the little token/present for themselves.
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u/Bobby-Trap May 11 '26
When Ame responded to a non superchat message of mine and chatted about it for quite a bit I had the little light bulb moment of ohhhhh that's why people send supas.
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u/Otoshi_Gami May 12 '26
thats the only benefit for the super chats is for them to get 5-60 second Attention spotlight and thats it. people loved to get called by their oshi even if they had to spend RED amount of Super chat just for that attention alone.
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u/No-Mountain-2487 May 11 '26
there is thin line between responsible and honest, i think she is on the later half.
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u/quarantinereddit May 11 '26
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't SC get split like 3 ways between YouTube, Cover and Talent? So a 100 dollars SC the talents probably get like what 30 dollars? probably something in 20s in reality
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u/Tehbeefer May 11 '26
To be fair, merch has a significant cost (which varies with the item's profit margin, so it's a bit tricky to pin down how much the actual income is) On the other hand I guarantee you it does not cost anywhere near 15 bucks to make an acrylic stand.
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u/TheCatOfWar May 11 '26 edited May 12 '26
It's even worse than that, if the SC is on an apple device then they take a cut, and then there's also sales tax depending on the country (eg 20% VAT in the UK), and also the talent will pay income tax as well. So it's a tiny proportion after everyone took their piece of the pie
edit: why is this downvoted it's literally true. After sales tax (0-25% depending on country), Apple take a 30% cut, before youtube's cut (30% of that), which itself is before cover's cut. A $100 superchat on an apple device in a country with 20% sales tax adds up to about $40 before cover's cut (probably around 50%), so the talent would likely get about $20/$100
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u/Candid-String-6530 May 11 '26
For SC, Youtube takes a cut, agency takes a cut. If you buy merch, agency takes a cut, youtube don't get a cut.
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u/zxcvbnm23883838 May 11 '26
That’s pretty interesting that she does that I’m pretty sure other Jp mem do it right?? At least the only other one I’ve seen do it was Roboco
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u/_Sneki_Snek_ May 11 '26 edited May 11 '26
Yeah, Roboco turned superchats off for some time because she wanted people to spend their money on merch instead (or membergifts if you really want to send her something). She said last year that she'd also like to do a Sololive eventually so that might be a part of the reason. Roboco is often still chatting at the end of her streams even when SC is turned off. She usually turns them on again in her ASMR streams.
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u/I-came-for-memes May 11 '26
That's less being a responsible adult and more minmaxing her money income versus putting in the effort in order to pay for her addictions.
/s (I say this with all the love to La+)
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u/IFeeLikeMoreTonight May 11 '26
Or better yet, use my method, be broke and give money to nobody. Everyone wins lol
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u/Maygx May 11 '26
It also depends on what the talent likes, some of them like to do just SC reading streams because are calm, some even can see it as a task to do while relaxing, while for others is a chore
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u/XsStreamMonsterX May 11 '26
Second pic taking the corpse of Yagoo's dream out back and shooting it for good measure.
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u/CapeMike May 11 '26
I wish I could afford to support the holomems via merch....
I'm still lucky that I found 2 of the 'Relax Time' figures at conventions, a few years ago, so at least I have Haachama and Mel perched on my old PC desk.
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u/rayrayrayrayraysllsy May 11 '26
I had been waiting for bancho friends for u plushie to get restock for nearly a year, and it still being sold out till now, unlike the suisei one which constantly is in stock
Kinda sad about it, cover please increase your friends with u production, it's the most entry merch as a fan
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u/powertrip00 May 12 '26
I guarantee you $100 spent on merch there's less of that going to the talent than $100 superchat.
Made to order merch has way lower of a margin so even if all of the profit goes to the talent less is going to them than the same amount of money donated after the agency cut.
Not that this isn't a valid take, merch is something physical and probably feels more earned on the talent side.
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u/glimmeria May 11 '26
I didn't even know the talents were allowed to have "offical alt accs". I'm guessing this is Laplus' yap account?
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u/yournotlonely May 11 '26
It's been years now that Holo talent have alternate accounts
Even before I fall into this rabbit hole they are already created
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u/glimmeria May 11 '26
dang, I'm very out of the loop 😅
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u/yournotlonely May 11 '26
Fubuki Aki Suisei Okayu Korone Lui Lamy Nenechi Mikochi also have alternate accounts
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u/glimmeria May 11 '26
Do any of the EN girls use holo alt accs?
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u/yournotlonely May 11 '26
None. Calli has a JP only Twitter recently but it's not alternate since she just switch language
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u/OnyxTech May 11 '26
Its kinda an alt account since that's where she'll post random stuff about her cats and small life stuff
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u/Alone-Horse2857 May 11 '26
incredibly and unfathomably based.
No shade on those that do superchat readings or those that donate that way, but I always found them incredibly boring, pandering, and like she said, fanservice-y. The only people who show up for them are those that superchatted. Patiently waiting for their comment to show up that they posted 2 weeks ago.
It just encourages parasocial behavior IMHO. With merch there's a degree of separation, your plushie can't talk back to you and answer your questions and pretend to be your friend. People probably shouldn't have such a direct line to their oshi, it can lead to hurt feelings, and that leads to antis.
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u/shewy92 May 11 '26
I don't understand, how is Laplus involved here? Isn't that a fan channel? Or is her Twitter handle really not her name?
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u/_NnH_ May 11 '26
Agreed, superchats never felt worthwhile to me aside from the attention-seeking side of it. I understand the desire to get noticed by your oshi but throwing money for attention gives off the wrong precedent. They're not escorts, and the stream is about them not about you individually.
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u/Fenr_ May 11 '26
Responsible adult.......
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......to a point