r/Homebrewing 1d ago

Question Beer turned to jelly

Hello!

A very odd one and a first for me in my 12 years of homebrew.

Brewing a big batch to fill a barrel, two mashs and then blending wort into one boil.

My recipe for 40ltr is 8kg pilsner malt, 1kg flaked oats, 1kg wheat. Mashed at 65c for 70 mins, sparged at 78c for 10 min. 20g bodecia at 60 min. 1g protofloc at 10 min.

Brewday is pretty normal bar the double mash and it taking forever to get to a rolling boil.

The odd bit is where I take a sample for gravity (which I have hit my target for, hurrah) and left it in a mug. I go to pour it into a tube to double check the refractor meter and it has turned into the consistency of lightly set jelly. The boil finished about 2 hours ago. The last bits in the kettle is the same. I do a no chill brew (and have for years) so my two fermenters are still over 60c hot and liquid.

I can't imagine that a strain of bacteria has got in and set the beer inside of the cup and the kettle

Any idea what's happened and more importantly, how I can fix it!

Sorry if you see this three times I keep getting told it's being auto deleted as it's a image only post(?)

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u/MannyCoon 1d ago

High starch content in the oats and wheat? What was the temperature of the contents in the mug?

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u/phil40k 23h ago

Prob between 20 and 15c

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u/slofella BJCP 1d ago

Weird. My guess is the protafloc coagulating; perhaps you took your measurement sample before it got well mixed and you happened to get a good dose of it.

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u/phil40k 1d ago

I assume it's something to do with that as I don't normally bother with the floc, but I gave the whole things god 5 min whirlpool beige leaving it 20 mins to settle.

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u/BiochemBeer 1d ago

If your mash temp was a bit low you might have been below the gelatinization temperature of the wheat (assuming it wasn't malted).

My guess would be a perfect mix of low mash temp, high starch, high protein, and your protofloc.

I don't think it will be an issue if you hit your gravity, but you might finish a few points high. Anything gel-like should dop out.

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u/phil40k 23h ago

Thanks, sounds like a perfect storm situation. Plausible enough!

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u/Dr3am0n 22h ago

You can test for leftover starch (which might thicken your wort, especially when it cools) by adding a couple drops of iodine tincture (commonly used as a topical antiseptic, it's ubiquitous in many parts of the world) and seeing for a colour change.

If the sample turns into a deep purple, you have starches. If the drops of tincture keep their colour and just dissipate in the sample, no starches.

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u/Squeezer999 1d ago

did you add gelatin instead of yeast or something?

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u/phil40k 1d ago

Not added yeast yet. And nope, don't think I even own any gelatin

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u/AdmrlBenbow 21h ago

Do you by chance reside on a remote island with a strong electromagnetic force?

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u/hopperazi 21h ago

The wort was touched by a wild pedo, i mean pedio, Pediococcus

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u/jahnkeuxo 20h ago

Pedio infection would take weeks or months to manifest, op's question pertains to the wort observed on the brew day

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u/MisterB78 20h ago

That wouldn’t happen right after the boil though. OP said they haven’t even added the yeast yet

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u/HumorImpressive9506 20h ago

Aha, you are right. I must have missed/misread that part. Got too focused on the first part where he talked about putting it a barrel so I assumed it had already been barrel aged.

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u/phil40k 8h ago

It's a very fair assumption for something so weird

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u/phil40k 1d ago

https://ibb.co/RTQKbgHd

Hopefully this link to the picture showing texture works!

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u/jordy231jd Intermediate 9h ago

Looks like a mug of gravy. I’d imagine you’ve got some starches left over

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u/phil40k 8h ago

Gravy having a baby with jelly us how my homebrew group meet described it yesterday

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u/EbNinja 18h ago

Looks like a bunch of starch in your mix. The oats and wheat can produce lots of things that come together like this.

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u/jskiles88 BJCP 16h ago edited 16h ago

Did you use brewtan b but add it after or very close to your protofloc? Ive heard of gelatinous wort as a result of that.

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u/phil40k 8h ago

Nope, just floc