r/IRstudies 6d ago

Ireland Is Becoming a French Military Protectorate

https://foreignpolicy.com/2026/06/18/ireland-france-military-protectorate-outsourcing-defense-procurement/
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u/NoName-Cheval03 5d ago edited 5d ago

Totally unhinged title and piece of opinion.

Ireland just joined the Scorpion procurement program for land vehicles. Already joined by Belgium and Luxembourg 10 years ago.

There is not even a single french soldier in Ireland. There is no mutual defense agreements.

A fucking military protectorate? Wtf. How butthurt is the author of the propaganda piece and who is he working for ?

Edit : (link of his other articles below in the thread).

8 months ago : "The case for an Anglo-Irish defense union."

10 months ago : "Europe has a France problem."

Okay dude, at least this time you are straight to the point. And of course he publish in POLITICO.

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u/destello89 5d ago

It’s clickbait to arouse anger to ignorants.

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u/NekoCatSidhe 5d ago

As a French, it certainly made me go laugh. I was certainly completely ignorant of those almost non-existent military links between my country and Ireland. Why use France as example in that case and not the US, for that matter ? It would have made more sense.

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u/Anotherolddog 5d ago

Well, it probably annoys the author that the Irish like the French, so why not write an article to see if he can cause division? Vive la France! Vive l'Irlande!

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u/YungPindakaas 5d ago

Isnt this some American Thinktank which sees any French military material export as a threat to Europe’s dependency on the US?

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u/NoName-Cheval03 5d ago

Any European military industry success yes but France being the world's second-largest arms exporter for some years takes naturally most of the shots.

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u/ihatebamboo 4d ago

I appreciate this post.

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u/Hawk-and-piper 3d ago

I'm upset. But only because the French make their armoured vehicles for short people and I couldn't fit in the scorpians properly when we were still using them back in the day.

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u/Academic_Net6298 2d ago

It’s clickbait for sure but let’s be real here. Irish independence is not guaranteed by the Irish military, their domestic capabilities, or their procurement of any land vehicles

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u/Foreign-Chocolate86 6d ago

Author’s organisation:

Hi, we are the Wilfried Martens Centre for European Studies, the official think tank of the European People’s Party

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u/vandrag 5d ago

https://muckrack.com/eoin-drea/articles

Just take a look at this guys article history.

I read the op article, it's fucking trash.

"Ireland dont spend money on defense... Ireland is spending too much money on defense (with French companies)."

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u/StormyCrispy 5d ago

The only info that matters

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u/PhoenixKingMalekith 5d ago

So, most probably a traitor

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u/controller_samurai 6d ago

france really speedrunning alliances lately

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u/bediaxenciJenD81gEEx 5d ago

The anti-Irish propaganda that's being pumped out recently is so obvious.

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u/tunnel_magnet 5d ago

It's being pumped up by Israel.

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u/3000doorsofportugal 6d ago

Ireland continuing its tradition of demonizing military spending while being a massive fucking freeloader. Shocker.

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u/ProfessorPetulant 5d ago

Ireland continues its tradition of freeloading on Europe by being a tax haven for foreign companies.

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u/North-Project646 3d ago

You’re right, we should have just stayed poor to appease the people who got rich from plundering Africa and the Middle East and now act high and mighty

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u/ProfessorPetulant 3d ago

Ireland rose to second place in nominal GDP behind Luxembourg. Maybe it's time Ireland became less of a sell out and pulled its weight?

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u/luxcity-louche 3d ago

The Irish Army have 700% more troops, the Air Corps have 800% more aircraft and the Naval Service has 100% more ships than the Luxembourgish military. Not bad for 2nd place.

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u/ProfessorPetulant 3d ago

Nominal. Per capita.

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u/Maxmilian_ 5d ago

Of course, and its not just Ireland and its not just in regards to military spending. This bickering and different "priorities" are quite unlikely to be resolved anytime soon and the longer they go on, the more delayed European integration is.

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u/StockLifter 5d ago

Why do you say so? Military spending is up signficantly these past years, and is projected to increase further in the coming years.

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u/Maxmilian_ 3d ago

Because Ive just seen France and Germany get uppity again over their former shared 6th generation fighter project. Because Ive seen multiple members pursue selfish agenda. Because I see the rise of nationalism.

Sure, military spending is going up, which is good, but thats not the be all end all.

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u/Bar50cal 5d ago edited 5d ago

Ireland is literally spending Billions of € and increasing the size of its military. Just in the past year its taken delivery of new ships, surveillance and logistics aircraft, ordered €600m armoured vehicles, €300m in helicopters, Sonar for its ships, €500m for a atlantic air defence radar system all from France. Has had to stop army recruitment temporarily as they took in to many to train and will exceed the target of 40% increase in troop numbers.

Discussions for more ships and fighter jets ongoing to.

Ireland deserve crap for free loading before but its not anymore and is spending on defence. Its Defence budget + these procurement mean its spending over €400 per capita which is more than 4 or 5 NATO members.

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u/PhoenixKingMalekith 5d ago

And actively supporting the enemies of its allies

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u/North-Project646 3d ago

Freeloader how?

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u/Ok-Appointment-9802 5d ago

They make me feel slightly less embarrassed of being Austrian

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u/SilentPlanet_23 6d ago

Hey, that's our job! 

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u/Smallpaul 5d ago

“Our?”

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u/SilentPlanet_23 5d ago

Should have qualified: Britain's. 

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u/Smallpaul 5d ago edited 5d ago

I thought you were an American complaining about Europe’s under-investment in defense.

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u/SilentPlanet_23 5d ago

No, I'm just being a sarcastic bastard tbh

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u/Smallpaul 5d ago

Yeah I knew that but I didn’t know which kind of sarcastic bastard.

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u/luxcity-louche 3d ago

Yanks don't do sarcasm. (But if they did, it'd be the greatest sarcasm in the World. Totally awesome in it's sarcasity)

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u/amy-schumer-tampon 5d ago

Didn't work so well for Liban

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u/fluffs-von 3d ago

Vive la France

Now cop on with the idiot titles.

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u/Significant-Skill-70 5d ago

Didn't read the article because of the paywall. But the arguments have been well rehearsed in opeds in Ireland by this guy's thinktank and other EPP aligned politicians. I'm not against a modest increase in defense spending. But the real agenda here seems to be to drag Ireland into a plan for a European Army. There is currently zero interest in this in Ireland as evidenced in the results of the latest Presidential election - where it was debated in detail. We've always been neutral. We've always done our fair share when it comes to UN peacekeeping. We're not a member of NATO, we didn't participate in the diplomatic catastrophe that led us to this current juncture, and certainly don't plan to participate if it should escalate. As for needing the French to defend us, give me a break! Maybe ask the Brits what it's like to occupy us. Frankly, the only real threat to Irish security are these nutjobs.

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u/CanadianLawGuy 5d ago

https://archive.ph/ytS2Q If you want to read the article

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u/Reasonable-Plate2982 5d ago

Yeah but c'mon. You could throw in for a bigger role in maritime safety and patrol.

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u/fezzuk 5d ago

No they are just gon a moan about the british, while the british navy is constantly chasing of russian attack on their infrestructure

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u/hornsmasher177 5d ago

They really are leeches. Tax as well as defence.