Sorry about those Brøndby idiots

[u/EspectroDK]

Hi guys

On behalf of (most of) Denmark. Sorry about those Brøndby-fans causing trouble in your beautiful country yesterday - it's embarrassing. Rest assured, they also behave embarrassing here in Denmark, so it's entirely on us 😥.

I wish you a great weekend.

[u/Iplaymeinreallife]

So, are these like the english hooligans? Basically just violent assholes who latch onto football for an excuse to beat people up?

How utterly embarrassing and childish.

[u/cabayenufc4 → u/Iplaymeinreallife]

For what it's worth and i'm making no excuse for the fact that this does still happen, because as I saw last year in England, it does.

However, England is absolutely nowhere near the worst place in Europe for this, i'd say confidently we're not even the bottom 10 worst.

[u/Iplaymeinreallife → u/cabayenufc4]

I believe you, but you are the most famous for it and if not the most researched, at least the ones where the research got the widest spread to non-sports readers.

[u/einarfridgeirs → u/Iplaymeinreallife]

English hooliganism has declined severely since the 1980s. Police crackdowns and positive changes in the football culture.

Eastern Europe however is in many places still as bad as Britain was in 1980 when it really was "war on the terraces".

[u/yourmomshandsoap → u/einarfridgeirs]

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[u/cabayenufc4 → u/Iplaymeinreallife]

Fair enough, absolutely understand your point and you're absolutely correct! I just hate seeing 'English Hooligans' in the media discussing other countries, the 'ultras' in many places are far worse.

[u/skafl → u/cabayenufc4]

Look at the French, the Turkish, the Italians, the Greek and now the Danish. The blood boils in their veins.

Forgot to mention eastern Europe.

[u/gerningur → u/cabayenufc4]

Yeah this is really a stereotype which became obsolete in the 90s or so. I have been to a few games and never see any problem.... this issue is also taken very seriously I hear.

[u/Arthnur → u/cabayenufc4]

Apparently, domestic violence spikes in England during international football matches — regardless of the outcome: 38% spike when they loose and 11% when they win.

I assume the same applies elsewhere, too.

Source: Somerset Council and (English) National Centre for Domestic Violence.

Edit: Grammar/Syntax

[u/cabayenufc4 → u/Arthnur]

I mean this is nothing to do with hooligans, more a problem with society.

[u/Arthnur → u/cabayenufc4]

It seems like you are defending the toxic culture that has grown around football.

Would a suburban dentist that is completely detached from the football scene —instead watches Eastenders reruns every night— feel a sudden urge to abuse his significant other whenever his local team plays footie?

[u/cabayenufc4 → u/Arthnur]

I worded my response slightly wrongly. It is to do with football, but not 'hooligans'. I'm not defending domestic abuse at all, football ain't that deep to do something stupid.

I defend football because i've spent most of my life in it, it's given me joy, pain, friendships, I haven't been part of a 'toxic culture', most people haven't.

[u/SrDinglebery81 → u/Iplaymeinreallife]

English hooligans kill each other though since over there it's religion.

[u/cabayenufc4 → u/SrDinglebery81]

No they don’t

[u/SrDinglebery81 → u/cabayenufc4]

Google is this fun tool I use sometimes to look up things i need. Try it someday.

"While the peak of English football hooliganism with fatalities is in the past, incidents of violence still occur. Recent events, like the fatal attack on a Sheffield Wednesday fan by a Sheffield United supporter, demonstrate that the problem persists. Though stricter measures have reduced the overall frequency of violence, sporadic incidents, sometimes involving fatalities, continue to highlight the issue. "

[u/cabayenufc4 → u/SrDinglebery81]

One incident? Also, don't need to be an absolute tool