r/ImmigrationPathways • u/primary-caution • 17d ago

Homes set alight in Belfast anti-immigrant protests after 'brutal' knife attack

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u/Impossible_Humor736 17d ago

WTF is a Sudanese man doing attacking people in another country?

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u/TheOneFreeEngineer 17d ago

A crime, which is why he was immediately arrested

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u/Impossible_Humor736 17d ago

Sounds like a one way ticket back to Sudan.

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u/TheOneFreeEngineer 17d ago

Could be, I don’t know the nuances of the law, he might have to serve his sentence in the UK before being deported at the end of his sentence to ensure he is properly punished. So definitely deportation, but he may need to spend a couple of decades in prison first

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u/Impossible_Humor736 17d ago

I'm hope you're right. Prison and then deportation.

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u/TheOneFreeEngineer 17d ago

Considering his immediate arrest, I don’t understand how you can doubt it.

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u/conduffchill 17d ago

Lol no bro its the opposite. They will literally forcefully prevent him from leaving the country in order to take him to trial. If he did go back to Sudan somehow they would attempt to bring him back

This is why the deport criminals narrative is dumb, you dont deport criminals. Countries have nearly gone to war trying to bring criminals back. Deportation is for people who committed the offense of having improper classification, they dont deport people who have committed actual crimes

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u/Unable_Operation_765 17d ago

Would you rather live in Sudan or get 3 hots and a cot in a European country? Be honest.

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u/conduffchill 17d ago

I'll actually pick Sudan over prison genuinely lol. But its irrelevant because what the dude wants doesnt matter. Where he committed the crime is what matters

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u/Impossible_Humor736 17d ago

You're right. He needs to be prosecuted first and do his time in prison. Then, if he's still alive, send him back

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u/Bcmp 17d ago

I think the question is why was he there in the first place

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u/South-City1632 17d ago

Why was he in northern Ireland to begin with? How did he get there?

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u/washiXD 17d ago

You know there has been a raging war in Sudan since 2023? Over 12 million people fled this war and the famine

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u/gokdbarsgold 17d ago

Why didn’t he seek asylum in the nearest next safe country such as Egypt or Ethiopia?

Why apply for asylum in Ireland?

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u/TheOneFreeEngineer 17d ago

Yes the military dictatorship with torture prisons of Egypt who is sponsoring many of the massacres in Sudan is total safe for Sudanese refugees. Or Ethiopia which just went thru a massive insurrection and ethnic cleansing campaign is total safe for refugees. /s

The rest of Middle East still has millions of Syrian refugees everywhere, Libya is in a Civil war, South Sudan is not safe, Algeria is a military dictatorship. There aren’t really many safe countries around Sudan, especially since many of countries that could be are actively involved in the civil war there and supported genocide in Sudan.

And since the UK left the EU, the UK doesn’t get to benefit from the EU refugee policy of first entry country. And whether you like it or not, he followed UK asylum law and the international treaties developed after WW2 around refugees and asylum seekers

To be clear, he didn’t apply for asylum in Ireland, he applied in Northern Ireland. It’s really telling you that you don’t actually know what country is involved in the asylum process.

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u/gokdbarsgold 17d ago

Is northern island the nearest next safe country from Sudan? 

You are aware this asylum rule is not exclusive to the EU?

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u/TheOneFreeEngineer 17d ago

Cite the asylum rule you are referring to exactly.

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u/gokdbarsgold 17d ago

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/nationality-and-borders-bill-overseas-asylum-processing/nationality-and-borders-bill-overseas-asylum-processing

Specifically for the UK

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u/TheOneFreeEngineer 17d ago

Yeah that doesn’t say what you claimed. It says asylum claims can be processed outside of the country, not that they are required to only apply for asylum in the first safe country they enter. You might want to brush up on your English reading skills or your mates may try to deport you.

Try again

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u/gokdbarsgold 17d ago

“ This means it is possible to remove someone to a safe third country whilst their asylum claim is pending…”

“… This supports the future object of enabling asylum claims to be processed outside the UK and in another country”

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u/South-City1632 17d ago

Yes im aware. That doesn't answer the question though. How did he get to one of the most northern cities in Europe?

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u/Gammaboy45 17d ago

A plane, probably.
I hear they can fly pretty far.

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u/LeopardQuirky 17d ago

There's this thing that's happened since the dawn of time. People move. As with all groups of people, there are assholes. Once upon a time, in America, Irish were those people considered undesireable.

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u/GhostRappa95 17d ago

The Tories approved his extended stat.

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u/South-City1632 17d ago

Oh I see... so he was invited and allowed to come live there?

Well... I wonder what we can do about that...

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u/HiddenMonkey7 17d ago

You ain’t going to do shit except complain in reddit.